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To post lingerie shots on my social media..

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Junglejane8 · 26/02/2023 22:35

Right here me out here..
Long term lacking in body confidence. Have never felt very beautiful or feminine. I've been working on my self-esteem recently and a friend who is a photographer treated me to a burlesque shoot. She said it would be a very empowering thing to do, and it was. I actually felt sexy and beautiful and powerful.
The pictures have come through and I'm so happy with them. I want to post them on my social media but am worried that it will come off as vain, desperate, attention seeking etc.
There is lots of crap on social media but then I think of some of the women I follow who post lingerie / swimwear images and I don't judge them at all. I think they are beautiful and confident. I want to do that too.
Or is it vacuous and shameful?

OP posts:
GeekyThings · 27/02/2023 09:25

SparkleSpangle · 27/02/2023 09:19

OP: Shall I post pics of me in my pants on social media
Everyone: No, it will make you look like a self centered, vacuous, narcissist.
OP: Yeah, I'm gonna do it anyway because my pants are empowering.
Everyone: No, seriously, you have been made to think this is empowering by men who would like to see your pants
OP: PANTS POWER!

I really, really love this post, it wins today! 🤣

SalmonSandwiches · 27/02/2023 09:25

You asked. You didn't like the answers. Post them, enjoy the likes. Hope it boosts your confidence knowing your friends are judging you. That men are both laughing at you as well as wanking. It won't be some sort of sweet crush that will form into a romance. The comments that say great photos but they're gossiping about desperate you must be, they'll laugh too.

The fact you think it's comparable to victims of sexual assault?! What even?!
I think you're a bit confused about what feminism is. Women warning women is not anti-femimist.

But go ahead,post them. You'll see that everything you were warned about will happen.

BellePeppa · 27/02/2023 09:25

Junglejane8 · 27/02/2023 09:06

Ok, I'm not going to lie the comments on here are making me want to post them more.. because so many people are so judgy about it being about seeking validation, desperation etc. It's really not. I feel like I want to post them. It would make me feel good. I don't really care, the more about it, what anyone thinks. Which is empowering actually.
I'm finding this thread such an interesting read. Everyone saying it's vain, asking inevitably for men's sexual approval etc. It actually reminds me of when when who dress skantily are blamed as 'asking for it' as victims of sexual harrassment or rape. Most feminists I know argue women should be able to dress how they choose freely, without judgement. Should we not also, as women, have the freedom of choice of how we represent ourselves on Social Media.
Everyone saying it's 'for validation', 'for validation'... Is not posting in social media in any capacity, in any context, arguably FOR VALIDATION. Whether it's pics of your home, a nice walk you've been on, your family, your friends. I sure as hell don't post these type of images for validation of others, and sharing these photoshoot images isn't either. It's just because I want to. However if your all gonna argue it's about validation I'm gonna damn well argue right back that technically anything you post on social media can be deemed as 'seeking validation'. Maybe not validation about being attractive, but certainly that your life conforms to a happy, ideal image of societal bliss.
My next thought, so are celebs etc also desperate, vain, seeking validation? Is every woman that's ever posted anything that can be deemed sexual only ever done so out of desperation? Is Beyonce desperate to be validated? I'm genuinely confused on this point.
Also a lot of you have alluded to be looking a certain way or being of a certain age - mid-life crisis, being compared to Aunt Jane etc... And that making it cringe-worthy. If I was younger and what society is deemed as 'beautiful' are you saying it would be ok?
A lot of you I don't understand. I do feel more empowered because I'm realizing I don't give that much of a damn what a lot of you think and I'm gonna post them anyway.

Then why are you asking for people’s opinions in the first place? Go ahead and do it 🤷‍♀️

Maireas · 27/02/2023 09:26

For centuries, women were denied political and economic power. How did they assert themselves and have any independence?
Many went down your route, understandably, because men will pay for, and give attention to, sexually available women. It does give a transient power over men, of sorts.
Women's bodies and clothing have become so sexualised it's hard to separate what we can control and what controls us.
You're determined to post them, I think you always were, and I think there's a strong element of you wanting to argue that what you're doing is strong and feminist.

thirteenfiftyeight · 27/02/2023 09:27

Junglejane8 · 27/02/2023 09:06

Ok, I'm not going to lie the comments on here are making me want to post them more.. because so many people are so judgy about it being about seeking validation, desperation etc. It's really not. I feel like I want to post them. It would make me feel good. I don't really care, the more about it, what anyone thinks. Which is empowering actually.
I'm finding this thread such an interesting read. Everyone saying it's vain, asking inevitably for men's sexual approval etc. It actually reminds me of when when who dress skantily are blamed as 'asking for it' as victims of sexual harrassment or rape. Most feminists I know argue women should be able to dress how they choose freely, without judgement. Should we not also, as women, have the freedom of choice of how we represent ourselves on Social Media.
Everyone saying it's 'for validation', 'for validation'... Is not posting in social media in any capacity, in any context, arguably FOR VALIDATION. Whether it's pics of your home, a nice walk you've been on, your family, your friends. I sure as hell don't post these type of images for validation of others, and sharing these photoshoot images isn't either. It's just because I want to. However if your all gonna argue it's about validation I'm gonna damn well argue right back that technically anything you post on social media can be deemed as 'seeking validation'. Maybe not validation about being attractive, but certainly that your life conforms to a happy, ideal image of societal bliss.
My next thought, so are celebs etc also desperate, vain, seeking validation? Is every woman that's ever posted anything that can be deemed sexual only ever done so out of desperation? Is Beyonce desperate to be validated? I'm genuinely confused on this point.
Also a lot of you have alluded to be looking a certain way or being of a certain age - mid-life crisis, being compared to Aunt Jane etc... And that making it cringe-worthy. If I was younger and what society is deemed as 'beautiful' are you saying it would be ok?
A lot of you I don't understand. I do feel more empowered because I'm realizing I don't give that much of a damn what a lot of you think and I'm gonna post them anyway.

Op is a drainer 🥱

ReneBumsWombats · 27/02/2023 09:28

OP, perhaps rather than put them directly on social media as such, put them on a separate page, like Flickr, and post the link? Then people who want to see them can, and anyone who would spend the day spluttering in outrage over them won't be able to admit they clicked through can avoid them.

HermioneWeasley · 27/02/2023 09:29

It’s not really “owning” the women who’ve advised against this to go ahead and do it. There’s no negative consequences for them.

Maireas · 27/02/2023 09:29

Interesting first post on MN, though.

BluebellBlueballs · 27/02/2023 09:30

OP come back to say 'ner ner ner ner ner gonna do it anyway ' how tedious.

OP I don't know what your profession is but you know that every time you apply for a job and don't get it a little voice will wonder if it's because of the pictures ?

If you're fine with that, go ahead

Schnooze · 27/02/2023 09:31

Which is the same kind of behaviour as the hiding away hating your body, just the other extreme. What people are saying is that on balance this isn't a wise move. Most balanced people wouldn't do it.

Good point.

Op, most people on here would also tell you not to hide yourself away on the beach. You don’t need external validation, just like you don’t need the external validation of posting on social media in your knickers.

The real self worth comes when you just go about your normal business not caring what people think. Both extremes of behaviour show that you don’t have real self worth yet.

JaffaCake70 · 27/02/2023 09:31

JockTamsonsBairns · 26/02/2023 22:49

It's great you enjoyed the photo shoot, and you're happy with the results.

But, honestly, please don't fall into the trap of thinking that sharing them is in any way tied up with empowerment of women.

It's funny isn't it, that men never seem to feel the need to take their clothes off to feel empowered... 🤔

MotherOfHouseplants · 27/02/2023 09:31

It actually reminds me of when when who dress skantily are blamed as 'asking for it' as victims of sexual harrassment or rape.

This is appalling, OP.

The rest of your post sounds petulant and childish.

DaveyJonesLocker · 27/02/2023 09:33

I'm very pro "you do you" if you wann a put them on that whatsitcalled site and charge people for them I'm all there with the support.

But on Facebook you're kinda forcing that on people who don't want to see it. If my auntie told me she'd had a photoshoot I'd be supportive and impressed eith her but if I was scrolling through Facebook in the queue at asda and my auntie in her knickers was thrust in my face I'd be a bit uncomfortable. If that makes sense.

BellePeppa · 27/02/2023 09:34

ReneBumsWombats · 27/02/2023 08:59

I actually think that's a good reason to do it. Misogynists deserve to be defied and since they love doing their judging anyway, it's a win-win situation.

Misogynists will be w*nking over the pictures.

jellyfrizz · 27/02/2023 09:34

Self confidence would be being able to post pictures of yourself looking really shit and not caring what people though about it.

SweetSenorita · 27/02/2023 09:34

JanusTheFirst · 27/02/2023 08:46

You will be judged as a tart by many. Is that what you want?

No fucks to give. I wouldn't judge you 🙂

Oysterbabe · 27/02/2023 09:34

Do what you want OP, but why ask?
90% of the voters think yabu. That statistic will be reflected by those that see them. Most people will think you've lost the plot.

G5000 · 27/02/2023 09:35

As asked before, if you open your insta and there is your uncle, or your colleague Bob from accounting posing seductively in their underpants, would you consider it empowering? Go that 'ooh, Bob, powerful?'

butterfliedtwo · 27/02/2023 09:35

Comparing your situation to rape survivors is disgusting and clutching at straws for your own validation and to fit your own narrative. You do you. Hun.

This. Ugh.

TallulahBetty · 27/02/2023 09:37

So after that this, you're doing it anyway? I think you always were going to, and was just fishing for replies that are the equivalent of the likes and pervy comments you'll probably get on your pictures.

Do what you want; just don't come back on the Work thread moaning that you keep missing out on jobs for no apparent reason...

TallulahBetty · 27/02/2023 09:37

After ALL this*

borntobequiet · 27/02/2023 09:37

Everyone saying it's 'for validation', 'for validation'... Is not posting in social media in any capacity, in any context, arguably FOR VALIDATION. Whether it's pics of your home, a nice walk you've been on, your family, your friends.

Post these pics then. At least blokes won’t be tempted to wank over them.

ShimmeringShirts · 27/02/2023 09:37

It is porn, whether you see it as tasteful or not. Not all porn is full on nakedness, quite a lot of lingerie fetishists out there but if you want to go about making a name for yourself as the kind of person that’d go about posting porn on social media go ahead - you’ll not get the attention you’re hoping for though. You’ll get a load of guys thinking you’re for sale.

HyacinthineMacaw · 27/02/2023 09:39

I’m so disappointed that you’ve read the whole thread and taken nothing meaningful from it.

OP, your body’s ‘attractiveness’ is not the thing that gives you power, unless the power you seek is just sexual attention from men. If you centre your worth in your body it should be about what it can do, not ever about how it looks. Otherwise you are just handing your self-esteem to others to control.

You are concentrating on the wrong thing in the search for confidence and self esteem.

You need a better therapist.

LakieLady · 27/02/2023 09:39

CheersForThatEh · 26/02/2023 22:46

People thinking you look sexy i.e. would want to shag you, is not empowering.

It's a fallacy told to women to encourage us to put up pictures of us in our knickers, look "better" in make up, or show off "a hint of cleavage".

Empowerment is choosing not to because that's your power.

This.

Plus it's tacky, and helps sustain the view that seeing women as sex objects is ok.

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