Skinny privellege

[Annabella91]

Why is there shops full of clothes for women who are skinnt but nothing bigger i hate going clothes literally can never find anything in a size 16 it's all size 6 and 8 is the fat back in the 90s discrimination trend coming in again?? Shouldn't need to skinny to look nice??

I don't think this is quite the 'Gotcha' you seem to think it is.....

Your knowledge of world events seems quite limited then.

I've just browsed some UK size charts. A size 6 is now 32-24-34 inches. When I learned dressmaking, that was a size 10!

On the upside, I'm still fat but have just learned I've gone down two standard sizes 😂

Why not? Is there a single person out there who wouldn’t lose weight if food was severely restricted?

Eh?? Normal for very short women, perhaps, definitely not normal normal! Unless we're looking at M&S sizes: their 6 and 8 would be a real 10 and 12. That's normal.
Absolutely normal for me, slightly above average on height with a BMI comfortably in the healthy range.

Plenty of women have been this sort of size over the years and some of us, me included, also have mum tums.

I've been wearing an 8 for years, and am a couple of stone heavier now. The 8 has definitely got bigger, but it doesn't do to observe this as people get very upset at the idea stores draw up their size charts based on how they can make people feel good and part with their cash.

No but in terms of using a very visual example that’s the main one isn’t it?

Not so much that there are only small sizes. But as someone has said, they have a limited stock and anything in a larger sizes goes.
My gripe is that they just assume what suits a size 6 to 8 ( and often tall ) person won't suit a larger and shorter body. A few tweaks here and there to a design would. Just upsizing it doesn't always work.
And too many clothes are designed for slim and very tall people.

So your answer seems to be to forcibly restrict peoples food intake for months on end (despite the damage that actually does to the body)?

If that worked, then why do people still gain weight post bariatric surgery?

Why do the majority of diets fail?

What a stupid fucking idea.

The point is that most people did not come out of concentration camps - they were dead and for you to use this to talk about people's BMI is offensive.

If that worked, then why do people still gain weight post bariatric surgery?

Why do the majority of diets fail?

Because people soon go back to their old habits of eating more than they need.

www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/weight-regain-after-bariatric-surgery-nutritional

To you I'm a 10 then, and I'm guessing a 12 on top. On here though, sizes are generally assumed to be standard UK sizes, not from shops notorious for vanity sizing but not dressmaking sizes either.

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But be careful, you're coming across as smart and your "smart privilege" is showing 😂

Why do diets fail and why do people gain weight after surgery?

For the same reasons people eat too much in the first place. Those reasons are often complex and multiple. But the PPs point, albeit an extreme example, is correct.

There is no living thing on earth which can deny the laws of physics. If you want to lose weight, the only way to do it is to burn more energy than you consume.

You can do this in myriad ways - cut out food groups, go running a lot more, eat smaller portions, starve yourself for certain parts of the day, but whatever fad or diet plan you're following they all have the effect of reducing energy consumption, assuming you're doing it correctly.

Diets don't fail as a rule.

People fail at sticking to them but they'd rather blame the diet in a lot of cases.

Be offended then 🤷🏼‍♀️

Diets don't fail as a rule. People fail at sticking to them but they'd rather blame the diet in a lot of cases.

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Agree.

I think this thinking that to be what is a normal size is now looked on as skinny privilege or only that way because of a drug addiction or eating disorder is just wrong.
I have clothes with the labels reading 8 or 10 which dd who is a 2/4 fits perfectly.

Myself and anyone who was a size 10 in the 80s was never considered underweight and only that way because of being ill or a drug addict. We were just normal size.
With vanity sizing has come this acceptance that being over weight which in itself is an eating disorder is the norm

I think whilst a size 16 might be the average today.
With vanity sizing that is really a size 20

How many of todays size 16s would buy a size 20 and how many might think “fuck I’m enormous” and start eating healthier and cutting their portion size

Going forward we haven’t yet hit the majority of people being a certain age and the pain and illness being overweight having gone through the menopause that brings.

People think that they can always diet if they feel the extra weight is getting them down. But with age becomes the inability to lose weight.

Why do they fail?

Because the diet is NOT sustainable long term.

Restriction for most people does not work.

So you expect specially commissioned designs for oversized women? But, let me guess, you expect to pay the same price. Every single brand that has specifically designed clothes for larger women has failed, with no exceptions. Every single one. Why? Because we do not buy clothes like thin people buy clothes. Why? Because fat body shapes are dramatically different from one another and you cannot design clothes universally for larger women. I carry mine almost entirely on my stomach. Not on my arse. Not under my arms. Not on my back. Only a bit on my thighs. Not on my chest. I guarantee if I stand next to another short 18st 40yo we will look totally different and not be suited to the same clothes. You can’t say that about size 10.

So unless we are willing to pay the money, we are not entitled to ‘special’ treatment because we choose to live our lives the way we do. Buy your clothes from the US. They cater for a much larger population. Fly out there and spend to your hearts desire. Don’t try to do the same in the UAE cost you’ll find nothing that fits.

I do not expect the world to revolve around me or accommodate my size. It’s not in any way acceptable. I deal with it because I’m not willing to commission Asda to make me my very own clothes range just for me.

But there is damage to being over weight and over eating..

Is restricting calorie intake damaging?

If you want to live longer and healthier that is usually the way to go about it.

Also phrases like „people in smaller bodies“ and „people living in larger bodies“ make it sound as if those people were somehow detached from said bodies and their body shape just happened to them and had nothing to do with their lifestyle choices.
I‘ve been overweight myself, I know how hard it can be to shift weight, but it is possible (in most cases).

Having easy access to clothing, on the high street for example, comes under the umbrella term of thin priviledge.

As someone else said on this thread, clothing stores aren’t public services, they’re businesses stocking items they’re most likely to sell. They’re not purposefully trying to make overweight people feel bad about themselves, but they can’t cater to everyone if it doesn’t make sense financially. If it did, I‘m sure they would do it.

No, for the same reason they’re overweight to start with - greed.

I think this thinking that to be what is a normal size is now looked on as skinny privilege or only that way because of a drug addiction or eating disorder is just wrong.
I was saying that people who are skinny are usually unwell, not those who are slim and healthy and happen to be a size 6 due to their build. I've been skinny and I was quite unwell, most people were worried, not envious.

Hollister for jeans. Size 00 which is effectively about a UK size 4. Come in different leg lengths too. Annoys me that I have to shop there for DD but at least they fit.

I do not expect the world to revolve around me or accommodate my size. It’s not in any way acceptable. I deal with it because I’m not willing to commission Asda to make me my very own clothes range just for me
this is a good point.

I shop in a shop often blasted on here for being 'too small'. They're not. They just tailor their garment in a straighter fit than other stores and have a teen style line that, unsurprisingly, is more for teen figures.

I buy dresses from another store, but not trousers because their trousers are typically tailored for more curvy women.

The second shop isn't awful or slim person shaming. They're just a business making products for a target audience.

No store is morally obliged to make things I personally like in my body shape and size just in case I venture into their store some time.