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Skinny privellege

758 replies

Annabella91 · 20/02/2023 08:40

Why is there shops full of clothes for women who are skinnt but nothing bigger i hate going clothes literally can never find anything in a size 16 it's all size 6 and 8 is the fat back in the 90s discrimination trend coming in again?? Shouldn't need to skinny to look nice??

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GoingOnce · 20/02/2023 11:38

I would like to add that I don’t think skinny privilege is a legitimate privilege like male or white because people can choose to be skinny. They can also choose to be plus sized. I realize there will be reasons why it is not always a choice. But in general, it is much easier to move between clothes sizes than it is to change your race or sex (oh but there lies another thread… 🙄)

Zipps · 20/02/2023 11:38

I see...after years of being called names for being slim (and skinny is one of them fatso) and hilarious jokes about not eating at my expense I am now privileged 😄

Give over.

AdoraBell · 20/02/2023 11:39

I always see larger sizes. One example, my nearest M&S when I look there is always a few size 22 on the rack, and everything down to a six but frequently not a size 12.

buckingmad · 20/02/2023 11:41

Where are you shopping because I am a size 6 and can NEVER find my size. I only ever find size 12+.

workistoomuch · 20/02/2023 11:43

When I was shopping for work clothes john lewis didn't keep size 6 in as standard. Ive also struggled to find 6s and 8s in M&S. I'm not even that skinny but clothes are huge these days.

LeandraDear · 20/02/2023 11:45

Everanewbie · 20/02/2023 11:36

Call it a privilege if you like, but it is a privilege that could be available to you if you make it a priority.

You should be the Health Czar - oh and also in charge of the Benefits department too - tell that young girl in my village with 5 kids "at home mum" and "bitch, come at me" that she could make it a priority not to be living like that ...oh and the Unemployment Czar too...

leithreas · 20/02/2023 11:46

EmmaDilemma5 · 20/02/2023 11:26

YABU.

I was sale shopping recently. Could only find size 8s and size 18, 20, 22.

I'm a size 10/12 and they're usually the first sizes gone ime.

I always thought the same(I'm a size 10/12 too) but I when I go shopping with my size 6 dd there are never the clothes she wants in a size 6 either. I think it's just sods law that whatever size you want it isn't there!

LeandraDear · 20/02/2023 11:46

workistoomuch · 20/02/2023 11:43

When I was shopping for work clothes john lewis didn't keep size 6 in as standard. Ive also struggled to find 6s and 8s in M&S. I'm not even that skinny but clothes are huge these days.

I have looked at some clothes which would not even fit my fat cat round the middle 😂

IWasFunBeforeMum · 20/02/2023 11:46

What a load of rubbish.

Calphurnia88 · 20/02/2023 11:48

thecatsthecats · 20/02/2023 11:27

I think there will be a strong overlap for people who feel generally stigmatised (lower income) and those who feel that the doctor will tell them they need to lose weight.

I work in an area where stigma is a huge issue, and you seriously can't underestimate the role that it plays in just about everything for some people.

It doesn't matter how kind or well-meaning some people are, the stigma is like a voice in their head telling them that everyone hates them, judges them, and feels like they're wasting their time.

I'm not underestimating the level of lifestyle change needed for someone who is obsese to lose weight, but if someone chooses not to follow medical guidance or refuses to visit to doctor that is their choice.

If a voice in someone's head makes them feel stigmatised or judged for being obsese and being told to lose weight, then most likely they will continue to feel stigmatised and judged until they do.

Nicknameattemptno6 · 20/02/2023 11:49

Ndd135632 · 20/02/2023 08:53

Huh? Can never find clothes for my size 6-8 daughter. Stop moaning

This! Although my DD's a size 4.

(p.s. Zara and Hollister are reasonable for those tiny sizes)

Cornchip · 20/02/2023 11:50

I personally think it’s just your perception.

When I was a size 6-8 it seemed like it was always size 12s and 14s left. Now, after 2 kids, I’m a 10/12- always seems to be either size 16s or 6s and 8s.

It’s annoying but I think it has happened to everyone regardless of their size. That’s not even taking into account the still incredibly poor plus size offerings.

PuddlesPityParty · 20/02/2023 11:50

Ask if they have your sizes in stock in the back? Your sizes are probs just being bought more and the staff can’t spend all day restocking 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

BrightYellowDaffodil · 20/02/2023 11:51

When I was in my 20s and super thin/fit it was because I was under eating and over exercising and people constantly and often rudely commented on my weight. You can piss off with your “skinny privilege”!

I agree In my 20s, when I was doing a physical job, I was a size 6 and would have struggled to be 7st wringing wet. I didn't always look great - if I wanted knee-high boots they were too wide, I couldn't always find clothes that fitted which meant paying to have them altered or wearing children's clothes and, frankly, I sometimes looked a bit gaunt.

I remember someone saying to their friend that I looked "horrible" and the friend replied that I must be anorexic. And those weren't the only comments I had, not by a long chalk. So yeah, that "skinny privilege" is just lovely Hmm

IDontSpeakGoodEnglish · 20/02/2023 11:51

I am size 6. It is hard to find my size especially in charity shops.

littlestrawberryhat · 20/02/2023 11:52

Teriyakieverything · 20/02/2023 08:47

Stop labelling anything and everything 'good'/valued as being a 'privilege'/exclusionary and then trying to induce guilt and make out it is a 'bad' thing because it is not 'inclusive'.

love this

Everanewbie · 20/02/2023 11:53

LeandraDear · 20/02/2023 11:45

You should be the Health Czar - oh and also in charge of the Benefits department too - tell that young girl in my village with 5 kids "at home mum" and "bitch, come at me" that she could make it a priority not to be living like that ...oh and the Unemployment Czar too...

Mouth off all you like. If you consume less than you use, you'll lose weight. If your priority is convenience or instant gratification, then you are likely to struggle to achieve that. In the day and age of the infilling meal deal, grab bag crisps, and 500 calorie coffees I understand that it is difficult to keep track and stay disciplined, but pretending that being a healthy weight is some kind of unearned privilege is ultimately doing themselves a disservice.

Somethingneedstochange78 · 20/02/2023 11:53

I used to be an 8-10 now I'm a 12-14. I hate that word skinny I was slim. I know now it was mainly down to stress always having to be on the alert if my child did a runner. Having to listen out in the night for her if she woke trying to escape the house or take her nappy off to smear s*. When my daughter went into a residential school I started to put weight on. I still have my other disabled child to look after. Even with the amount of siezures he has it but it's a lot less stressful. I never struggle to find clothes. I know new look if they haven't got your size you can order in store. I'm sure other shops you can as well.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 20/02/2023 11:54

BrightYellowDaffodil · 20/02/2023 11:51

When I was in my 20s and super thin/fit it was because I was under eating and over exercising and people constantly and often rudely commented on my weight. You can piss off with your “skinny privilege”!

I agree In my 20s, when I was doing a physical job, I was a size 6 and would have struggled to be 7st wringing wet. I didn't always look great - if I wanted knee-high boots they were too wide, I couldn't always find clothes that fitted which meant paying to have them altered or wearing children's clothes and, frankly, I sometimes looked a bit gaunt.

I remember someone saying to their friend that I looked "horrible" and the friend replied that I must be anorexic. And those weren't the only comments I had, not by a long chalk. So yeah, that "skinny privilege" is just lovely Hmm

That is awful, and examples of people just being bastards.

But your body type is still seen as aspirational in society.

Slim is still seen as the ideal and automatically assumed as healthy, even if you are not.

That is what privilege is.

isthismylifenow · 20/02/2023 11:54

Totally disagree with this.

I am a smaller size and our equivalent of M&S have really annoyed me as they are very into vanity sizing. So for eg, if I was an 8 from there years ago, I then had to buy a 6. Now a size 6 has also been sized different, so from there I need to look for a 4. But there is nothing available in size 4 , as everything is size 8,10,12 (which are not true 8,10,12). I have to either order online which I won't do as I don't trust their sizings, or I have to travel to a main store where may have stock.

It is a complete PITA as I do like some staples from there and this issue is pissing me off a whole lot. I did contact them about it, I got the generic, we will let our buyers / manufacturers know blah blah blah.

I think if you cannot find items in your size, its because it is sold out, or actually now in the new smaller size.

littlestrawberryhat · 20/02/2023 11:56

Lots of factors here I think. Shops don’t want to design and sell clothes in plus sizes because they don’t want overweight people going into their shops and looking bad in the clothes. Sorry, I do actually know this to be true as I’ve worked for a few high street brands. It damages the brand. It also costs more to make plus size clothes, the designs have to be altered and more fabric needs to be ordered so it’s actually quite a pain to do.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 20/02/2023 11:58

Annabella91 · 20/02/2023 08:40

Why is there shops full of clothes for women who are skinnt but nothing bigger i hate going clothes literally can never find anything in a size 16 it's all size 6 and 8 is the fat back in the 90s discrimination trend coming in again?? Shouldn't need to skinny to look nice??

Try online - lots of choice of styles and sizes from Next, Very, J D Williams, etc.

Pinkfrogs45 · 20/02/2023 11:59

I am tall then a size 12-14 and always struggle. I cant buy clothes from most shops as they don’t stock tall clothing…always petite. I just want to wear a lovely play suit without my lady garden being sawn in two!

BrightYellowDaffodil · 20/02/2023 12:00

That is awful, and examples of people just being bastards. But your body type is still seen as aspirational in society. Slim is still seen as the ideal and automatically assumed as healthy, even if you are not. That is what privilege is.

Maybe it's just common sense telling us that it's unhealthy to be fat, and that society/shops/whatever aren't going to make endless accommodations for those who don't take responsibility for themselves. I do NOT include people who are overweight through no fault of their own in that statement, it's aimed at people who could do something and choose not to. See also: body postivism/anti-fat shaming: something peddled by someone I used to know who was proud of the fact she couldn't fit into a theatre seat.

chaosmaker · 20/02/2023 12:00

@Annabella91 rubbish, never has fat been celebrated more, especially with the misnomer 'curvy' rather than, let's be honest, lumpy. I speak as a larger woman and feel a return to the sizes we should be would be far better for us all and more importantly to avoid all sorts of awful conditions in the future.

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