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Ha ha ha! Fisherthem !!!!!! AIBU to think this is just being stupid?

164 replies

FancyFanny · 15/02/2023 22:28

Sam Smith of course and his latest ridiculousness! Don't we already have non gender words for this? ie angler, fisher etc. even fisherperson would sound normal.

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hryllilegur · 16/02/2023 09:47

Oh Sam Smith is just ‘having a laugh’…?

🙄

That would be the Sam smith that kicked up a huge fuss so the Brit awards were structured so as not to offend Sam smith’s sensibilities.

Sam smith who requires grovelling apologies for the heinous crime of not using whatever pronouns Sam smith fancies being referred to by at any given moment.

This argument is like when abusers tell their victims that they are the problem because they don’t have a sense of humour.

Sam Smith is in a culturally powerful position and appears to be driven by egotism bordering on outright narcissism.

Dita73 · 16/02/2023 10:11

@Fraaahnces
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

BellePeppa · 16/02/2023 10:13

Madamecastafiore · 16/02/2023 08:25

His team need to tell him he isn't Beyonce and pull him up on how his actions are making him into a laughing stock.

Moobs does not maketh a woman.

I’m betting before long he’ll start going down the Madonna/Pete Burns route of disfiguring himself with cosmetic surgery to look more outlandish. I think he has issues and their roots are in self loathing. Maybe family need to start intervening before he goes down that rabbit hole.

BellePeppa · 16/02/2023 10:14

BellePeppa · 16/02/2023 10:13

I’m betting before long he’ll start going down the Madonna/Pete Burns route of disfiguring himself with cosmetic surgery to look more outlandish. I think he has issues and their roots are in self loathing. Maybe family need to start intervening before he goes down that rabbit hole.

I didn’t mean to say he etc, I just realised as I posted. I don’t agree with it but I’m not an arsehole and did it instinctively 🥴

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 16/02/2023 10:14

Of course we have the 'Never heard of Sam Smith' brigade. 🙄 Sam can call 'people who fish' whatever he likes. IDGAF. He is a massive attention seeker though. He's a good singer however, and has made some good songs. Meh... he's OK.

Topamaxtwit · 16/02/2023 10:17

I always get muddled up between Sam Smith and Lewis Capaldi. Sorry Lewis

FancyFanny · 16/02/2023 10:19

The problem is, being an idiot just makes people lose respect for you and even dislike you, which in turn makes them not want to listen to your music.

I really liked his music back in the day and went to see him in concert and he was rather good. However, now, I can't take him seriously anymore and hearing his songs just conjures up images of him in ridiculous outfits, saying ridiculous tedious comments about his gender which spoils the songs.

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HoleyShit · 16/02/2023 10:21

People need to stop indulging him with this 'they/them' nonsense -

Even on here people are doing it so as not to cause offence!

He can identify as whatever he likes - but I'll still refer to him as a he!

Tinner01 · 16/02/2023 10:23

Rory has it right I think!

Ha ha ha! Fisherthem !!!!!! AIBU to think this is just being stupid?
WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 16/02/2023 10:25

Topamaxtwit · 16/02/2023 10:17

I always get muddled up between Sam Smith and Lewis Capaldi. Sorry Lewis

I know quite a few people who get them mixed up. Both similar looking, similar style, similar voice, similar age etc etc etc...

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 16/02/2023 10:26

FancyFanny · 16/02/2023 10:19

The problem is, being an idiot just makes people lose respect for you and even dislike you, which in turn makes them not want to listen to your music.

I really liked his music back in the day and went to see him in concert and he was rather good. However, now, I can't take him seriously anymore and hearing his songs just conjures up images of him in ridiculous outfits, saying ridiculous tedious comments about his gender which spoils the songs.

100% this. ^ Put way better than I could put it. Talented artist with a great voice and some good songs, but his public persona makes him quite irksome.

BellePeppa · 16/02/2023 10:28

HoleyShit · 16/02/2023 10:21

People need to stop indulging him with this 'they/them' nonsense -

Even on here people are doing it so as not to cause offence!

He can identify as whatever he likes - but I'll still refer to him as a he!

Respect 👍 I referred to him as him then panicked (what a ridiculous state we humans have got ourselves in). 🥴

Siameasy · 16/02/2023 10:30

HoleyShit · 16/02/2023 10:21

People need to stop indulging him with this 'they/them' nonsense -

Even on here people are doing it so as not to cause offence!

He can identify as whatever he likes - but I'll still refer to him as a he!

Exactly. He’s probably not reading here and even if he was I wouldn’t care. As a gender ideology non-believer I won’t be using it’s nonsense language

thebellagio · 16/02/2023 10:37

thats a great analogy about comparing him to Harry Styles.

I admit, I really struggle to understand the whole gender debate - isn't it just about reinforcing stereotypes in a dangerous way? i.e. I like make up/flowers /pink things therefore, I must be a woman, or I like football so I must be a man? (just as a crude stereotype?)

Surely, the better approach to take with everything is to breakdown these stereotypes so everything is accessible to everyone, rather than "that's male" or "that's female".

With Harry, I feel like if he fancies wearing a pair of trousers, he's perfectly happy. If he fancies wearing a frock, he's also perfectly happy. He comes across as someone who's just very comfortable in his skin, therefore he doesn't need to make a big deal about changing pronouns or feeling male/female. He just feels like himself.

Compared to Sam Smith - I mean where to start? Clearly, Sam wasn't getting enough attention as a gay man. Sam never looks comfortable in their own skin - whatever they identify as, they'll never be truly happy. But the way that Sam Smith threw women under a bus at the Brits was absolutely shocking. And if Emma Corrin had their way, the same thing would happen in acting as well.

Tratjymp · 16/02/2023 10:59

"I will make you fishers of them."

WarningToTheCurious · 16/02/2023 11:08

Tratjymp · 16/02/2023 10:59

"I will make you fishers of them."

Brava 👏👏👏

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 16/02/2023 11:48

I always get muddled up between Sam Smith and Lewis Capaldi. Sorry Lewis

I wouldn't worry about it. Of the two of them, I get the vague impression that one of them has a sliiiightly better sense of humour and less self-importance than the other....

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 16/02/2023 11:50

I know quite a few people who get them mixed up. Both similar looking, similar style, similar voice, similar age etc etc etc...

But if you had to pick one of them to be stuck in a lift with....

Topamaxtwit · 16/02/2023 11:56

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll bahahahaha oh my goodness! Hilarious

Vitriolinsanity · 16/02/2023 20:37

Ah bless him. It's taken him years to not be that fella, you know, the one that isn't Ed Sheeran.

It's like watching Gary Barlow trying to be the cool one in Take That.

Hankunamatata · 16/02/2023 20:44

Wouldn't it be fisherperson?

YouSetTheTone · 16/02/2023 20:49

I think Sam Smith, like Nicola Sturgeon, has done a lot to expose the stupidity (and downright dangers) of gender ideology to the general public. Strange bedfellows… but cheers.

He can fuck off btw. Getting the awards for women scrapped and then the crocodile tears when no women were nominated this year.

DoodleDig · 16/02/2023 21:04

He's a man who is clearly very self obsessed. It's shame other people don't just laugh in his face rather than apologize for 'misgendering', which is just a made up load of nonsense anyway.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/02/2023 21:17

HoleyShit · 16/02/2023 10:21

People need to stop indulging him with this 'they/them' nonsense -

Even on here people are doing it so as not to cause offence!

He can identify as whatever he likes - but I'll still refer to him as a he!

Definitely.

jcyclops · 16/02/2023 21:17

The inflatable boy let himself down, and so has Sam Smith.