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That rugby player…in a scrum with a woman down an alleyway… wtf!

881 replies

GoingOnce · 15/02/2023 19:53

AIBU to be shocked someone would want to do this/have it done to them? I mean, the main offense is that he’s cheated on his poor wife, but also - is this a thing??? 🤢

OP posts:
Mooshamoo · 17/02/2023 17:40

Willyoujustbequiet · 17/02/2023 17:05

Hold on though...

I can understand why it may upset you for someone to suggest you are a prostitute simply due to your preferences but there is nothing in and of itself wrong in being a sex worker..

Its misogynistic really. I would hope you could see the irony at being offended that someone potentially judged you as a prostitute yet you are happy to judge them?

Because a woman talking about her sex life, and then being called a prostitute is offensive.

if your friend said "I had anal sex the other day" and you said to her "oh are you a sex worker then".

Do you not see that it's offensive? And it's bizarre.

Bansheed · 17/02/2023 17:43

OMG, this place gets bitchier and bitchier. A poster was called a prostitute and it was very clearly meant as an insult. Then a few jump in to defend the accusation. A social psychologist would have a field day with you.

I really fucking dispair. The attitidues on this thread make me realise exactly how stoning etc still goes on in this world. It's a base need for some of you. Awful, horrible. The opposite of civilised, yet dressed up as such.

Arrrrrrragghhh · 17/02/2023 17:43

@Mooshamoo Honestly I think some women are stuck in the dark ages.

This is a telling comment. You think the fact all the men you date want to rim you is enlightened. Yet you are horrified by the idea of prostitution. Do you really think a man wanted to lick your aresehole on a first or second date is doing so because they are overcome by love? Or more likely they feel women are the vessels of their fantasies and obviously in these enlightened times women love it.

No one called you a sex worker by the way . It was very
clearly a question identifiable by the question mark. You answer “no” and move on perhaps explaining why you think it’s the case. Which I guess “ you are from the dark ages” says it all.

NB In the dark ages going topless was fine. You could have a hairy fanny and men would want to have oral sex with you. Naked bar was a regular event in many rugby towns. You could shag with impunity and not have to be groomed, nipped and tucked.

pristinesurfacesGBTD · 17/02/2023 17:47

Mooshamoo · 17/02/2023 15:29

Why? Why on earth would you jump to the conclusion that I'm a prostitute? I think thats disgusting of you to be honest.

Other women have said on here that they think that rimming is a common sex act, do you think that they are all prostitutes too?

What really annoys me about this, is that it is the MEN who have asked me to do rimming, I have said no to them, and yet I am called a prostitute.

That is disgusting to be honest. It is women blaming and judging women.

I can confirm that I have not and have never been a prostitute. Such a bizarre thing to call someone.

Sorry.

Willyoujustbequiet · 17/02/2023 17:50

Mooshamoo · 17/02/2023 17:40

Because a woman talking about her sex life, and then being called a prostitute is offensive.

if your friend said "I had anal sex the other day" and you said to her "oh are you a sex worker then".

Do you not see that it's offensive? And it's bizarre.

Reread my post above that one. I literally said that in relation to your comment.

The fact remains though its hypocritical to get upset at being judged on this but then judge others.

MeinKraft · 17/02/2023 17:51

WakingFromTheDream · 17/02/2023 16:25

Can't believe some of the vulgarity and language on this thread - so depressing

Me neither

That rugby player…in a scrum with a woman down an alleyway… wtf!
Willyoujustbequiet · 17/02/2023 17:58

pristinesurfacesGBTD · 17/02/2023 17:47

Sorry.

Are you not judging women though by saying its disgusting to be called a prostitite?

You are getting upset at something you are doing yourself. Double standards.

Willyoujustbequiet · 17/02/2023 18:00

That was directed at @Mooshamoo

hempenhomespun · 17/02/2023 18:02

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 17/02/2023 16:29

HR complaint incoming: I was eating a ham sandwich and reading Take A Break when Amanda in Marketing asked me if I'd ever licked someone's bum.

😂

eighteenthirteen1 · 17/02/2023 18:02

What was an interesting thread has devolved into a bunfight. Classic, tedious mumsnet

Tratjymp · 17/02/2023 18:19

eighteenthirteen1 · 17/02/2023 18:02

What was an interesting thread has devolved into a bunfight. Classic, tedious mumsnet

We're bunlovers, not bunfighters.

TheCatWithGreenEyes · 17/02/2023 18:25

@Tratjymp don't forget the bum lovers too 🍑

ThomasWaghornsConeHat · 17/02/2023 18:28

Moving away from the name calling.... I'm more worried about threadworms, have none of their kids ever been to nursery? I wouldn't even lick Chris Hemworths bum hole after I discovered worms. Now that's a sentence I thought I'd never post online. Where's the Ovex???

FawnFrenchieMum · 17/02/2023 19:33

Mooshamoo · 17/02/2023 15:35

No I meant: they will start by texting "I want to lick you all over".

That is just the start.

Then they will go on to text me

"I want to lick your ass".

Again, I have heard it so many times, and I think it is so extremely common, that I really cannot understand people being surprised about it .

It's so so common. I just asked my friend there, we talk to each other about everything.

And she said that the men she dates all ask her to do this too.

See the difference with you @FawnFrenchieMum is that you are married, so as you are only with one man, you don't get to talk to a lot of men.

So how could you know what the dating scene is like these days?

A big assumption on how long I’ve been married but thankfully it’s been a while if this is the ‘dating scene’ these days!

Doesn’t change the fact that you are the only person on this entire thread that says every man they have messaged has asked to rim them.

Sep200024 · 17/02/2023 19:42

I’d like to know what the average participation figures were for this sort of activity before the internet came about.

ReneBumsWombats · 17/02/2023 19:53

I don't think it was invented with dial up...

My own experience, for whatever it's worth (and I'm into kink and have been to sex clubs), is that a lot of men are interested in anal play, but rimming is a bit pf a minority among them. Anal of any kind is a hard limit for me, so I guess I've been sheltered from a lot of stuff since I don't entertain it past the "Are you interested?" stage when I reply "hard no" and that is that.

However, I am aware that the anus is very sensitive so I can understand why some people would like it touched or licked. There's also the thrill of taboo, which I've been known to enjoy in other forms. Not through anal or public sex, though.

Funnily enough, no man has ever ceased talking to me because of my aversion to anal. I always find another way to put them off.

Sep200024 · 17/02/2023 20:07

I stand by my comment.

Mooshamoo · 17/02/2023 20:10

FawnFrenchieMum · 17/02/2023 19:33

A big assumption on how long I’ve been married but thankfully it’s been a while if this is the ‘dating scene’ these days!

Doesn’t change the fact that you are the only person on this entire thread that says every man they have messaged has asked to rim them.

They did! What benefit would I get out of making that up. It doesn't benefit me to make it up at all.

I see it as very normal as so many men have talked to me about it.

Trez1510 · 17/02/2023 20:40

Funnily enough, no man has ever ceased talking to me because of my aversion to anal. I always find another way to put them off.

😂😂

Fifi00 · 17/02/2023 21:02

There's a lot of internalised misogyny on here and getting excited at two people being publicly shamed. Yes a married man rimmed a married woman in a alleyway. They should face the consequences in private from their families not from the public. I bet lots of MNers would love to bring stoning back.

Frangipanitime · 17/02/2023 21:38

Other women on here have said they thought rimming was very common

do correct me if I’m wrong, but you were the only one who said it is every single man and that you are asked via text, often just after you text hello, to men you have never met. I mean I’m reading back and that’s what you wrote. Men you’ve never even met, you text and they text back hi, can I lick your arse. And now you’re bothered that everyone is questioning that.

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ImAvingOops · 17/02/2023 21:41

I see JW is playing this weekend. And his coach is laughing it off - male celebrities can mostly just style it out, especially sports stars - little gets in the way of generating cash for their clubs! They don't seem overly worried about him bringing their club into disrepute. But the woman is still sacked!

ReneBumsWombats · 17/02/2023 21:54

Fifi00 · 17/02/2023 21:02

There's a lot of internalised misogyny on here and getting excited at two people being publicly shamed. Yes a married man rimmed a married woman in a alleyway. They should face the consequences in private from their families not from the public. I bet lots of MNers would love to bring stoning back.

It's been a terrific exercise in the hypocrisy and lack of logic among shamers.

They say the dude deserves no privacy and it's fine to share the film, but they're appalled that his daughter and her peers saw it.

They're outraged and disgusted by the act, but they're watching the video and sharing details.

They're calling for endless shaming, but claim to be concerned about the families suffering.

They say cheating, especially in this way, is horrifying, but it's virtuous to call for shaming and vengeance. It is not possible to be a good person who opposes the cheating and public sex act unless you also bay for blood.

The woman is more responsible for the man's family than he is. The man has no responsibility for the woman's family.

Cheating is so bad that it is not possible to put yourself in the wrong with your response to it, even when you don't know the cheaters and it's nothing to do with you. No amount of shaming could ever be disproportionate or unnecessary. It is morally dubious to believe otherwise.

Just another day in 2023...

katseyes7 · 17/02/2023 22:48

I've just seen a couple of posts on twitter which state there are 'alternative angles' of the original video.
So (if they're genuine, l don't know, l haven't seen the video) it appears that two separate people could have filmed it?
This gets worse and worse. And apparently his coach is 'laughing it off' and saying he'll 'have a blast' tomorrow at the match.
I honestly can't believe his coach is treating it as joke. Two families devastated, and that's his take on it?!

Mistressofnone · 17/02/2023 23:02

I know this thread has gone way off piste (possibly one of the excuses JW used) but I'm in the prude camp. I tapped a Twitter link from the newspaper article and can't unsee it now!

Even during childbirth I don't think I got into such undignified positions.