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That rugby player…in a scrum with a woman down an alleyway… wtf!

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GoingOnce · 15/02/2023 19:53

AIBU to be shocked someone would want to do this/have it done to them? I mean, the main offense is that he’s cheated on his poor wife, but also - is this a thing??? 🤢

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Arrrrrrragghhh · 16/02/2023 13:37

@AnnoyedFromSlough Interesting. I read in Outkick, LBC and the Mail that she had been sent it first although you’re right her own interview does say otherwise.
To be honest if her daughters school friends were Snapchatting it in the morning there’s no hope of being contained really.
The videographer only has to share it with his mate it’s off.

TheCatWithGreenEyes · 16/02/2023 13:43

@GetOffMyDoorJack

I can't say for sure but it must have been about 7 years ago as we moved area just after but that's what I overheard in the playground.
After that she stopped driving his white Audi and had a little run around.
We have seen him with another woman in the white Audi at my child's kickboxing lessons and in town. I'm not saying that anything was going on with them but it looked suspicious.
I don't know her she just stood out as school as obviously very attractive. He always seemed arrogant

GoingOnce · 16/02/2023 13:43

I don't think the media should share pornographic content without the individuals consent. Do you?

I might be wrong here but I think the video has only been shared on Twitter etc

If you take the media to mean newspapers and online “reputable” news websites then I don’t think any of them have shared it.

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ImAvingOops · 16/02/2023 13:43

I think we're in dangerous territory if people are losing their employment because of something unsavoury they do in their private life. Not unless their job involves modelling good behaviour to children, like a teacher or police officer for example. She's an estate agent - her ability to do her job isn't affected by her personal life. Her boss shouldn't be able to just get rid of her. It's not like she was shagging him at work (which plenty of people have done and not been sacked for).

Hellsmovie · 16/02/2023 13:45

ImAvingOops · 16/02/2023 13:43

I think we're in dangerous territory if people are losing their employment because of something unsavoury they do in their private life. Not unless their job involves modelling good behaviour to children, like a teacher or police officer for example. She's an estate agent - her ability to do her job isn't affected by her personal life. Her boss shouldn't be able to just get rid of her. It's not like she was shagging him at work (which plenty of people have done and not been sacked for).

It's more about the her association with the company then bringing the company into disrepute.

GetOffMyDoorJack · 16/02/2023 13:56

Hellsmovie · 16/02/2023 13:45

It's more about the her association with the company then bringing the company into disrepute.

Exactly. And as someone said upthread the company had been getting unsavoury phone calls which would affect business and morale. From a safety perspective though, estate agencies rely on single people showing strangers around often empty houses. I think this would put her at substantial risk of assault.

Arrrrrrragghhh · 16/02/2023 13:56

ImAvingOops · 16/02/2023 13:43

I think we're in dangerous territory if people are losing their employment because of something unsavoury they do in their private life. Not unless their job involves modelling good behaviour to children, like a teacher or police officer for example. She's an estate agent - her ability to do her job isn't affected by her personal life. Her boss shouldn't be able to just get rid of her. It's not like she was shagging him at work (which plenty of people have done and not been sacked for).

Bringing the company into disrepute would be a reason I guess?
Regardless of being filmed had they just been kissing outside it would have been ok. Had they been doing what they did in a bedroom that would have been ok too. It’s the combination of a fairly obscene act, outside that’s too much,

Littleloveydovey · 16/02/2023 14:02

ImAvingOops · 16/02/2023 13:43

I think we're in dangerous territory if people are losing their employment because of something unsavoury they do in their private life. Not unless their job involves modelling good behaviour to children, like a teacher or police officer for example. She's an estate agent - her ability to do her job isn't affected by her personal life. Her boss shouldn't be able to just get rid of her. It's not like she was shagging him at work (which plenty of people have done and not been sacked for).

But it’s been the case for ever. If you do something the public find unacceptable, and is widely known, most companies will fire as they will not have you associated with them,

If they don’t act they can be seen as the sort of company who will employ someone who is known to engage in public indecent exposure, rimming and adultery, to work closely with clients, many of whom will not wish to deal with this employee. And that by keeping rhem employed it can be seen as condoning this type of sexually deviant adulterous behaviour in public. Dismissal is a response that the company doesn’t condone.

many people will not want this woman to show them round houses or handle their sales, and she will be known locally. The company will not want their name associated with hers or to be brought into this at all .

Because generally her behaviour is seen as unutterably sordid and unacceptable. It is actually also illegal. It is Illegal to expose your genitalia in public and it is illegal to engage in sexual acts in public. The fact it was rimming just makes it all the more sordid. This wasn’t they were in a deserted field some were having a quickie. This was they were down the side of greggs with the pub open close to them, and they were indecently exposed and engaging in sexual acts on the street, where anyone could walk down and see them, and someone did.

ImAvingOops · 16/02/2023 14:10

But he's presumably keeping his job. And the reason this is so public is because of his name and career.
It just seems very unfair to me.
She's an ordinary person who will find it harder than than him to get employment.

ImAvingOops · 16/02/2023 14:11

I don't know what happened with the italics there.

squtable · 16/02/2023 14:15

I think we're in dangerous territory if people are losing their employment because of something unsavoury they do in their private life.

this isn't a new thing though

HarlanPepper · 16/02/2023 14:21

Jo586 · 16/02/2023 13:18

Weird that he was being filmed with a phone with a light on, they were lit up and he was still at it. You would think at the sound of footsteps and the phone bloke shouting at them they would have paused proceedings. Doubt if it's the first time either. Having said that it's an image I can't unsee and hard not think it was some spoof as it's so appalling, then again I am sheltered.

You looked for the video, watched it, and now you're complaining that it was graphic. What, exactly, did you expect?

Shgytfgtf111 · 16/02/2023 14:24

Weird that he was being filmed with a phone with a light on, they were lit up and he was still at it. You would think at the sound of footsteps and the phone bloke shouting at them they would have paused proceedings.

Look at the state of him, hes gattered and doesnt have a clue.

Cuppasoupmonster · 16/02/2023 14:25

HarlanPepper · 16/02/2023 14:21

You looked for the video, watched it, and now you're complaining that it was graphic. What, exactly, did you expect?

It’s like the scene with David Brent and the porn magazine, where he keeps looking and going ‘eurghhhh disgusting’ then looking again

Smartishguy · 16/02/2023 14:25

HarlanPepper · 16/02/2023 14:21

You looked for the video, watched it, and now you're complaining that it was graphic. What, exactly, did you expect?

Isn't that like what they call car crash porn where people just can't help looking...

Only it's porn porn😖

Herroyal · 16/02/2023 14:56

His name popped up as trending on Twitter and the video was right there, again and again. TBH I wished I hadn't seen it! What a meat head. Destroyed his marriage, family in one fell swoop.
Doubt this was the first time he cheated either - other wise that's quite the leap from good husband and father to rimming out the back of Greggs...

Littleloveydovey · 16/02/2023 14:58

ImAvingOops · 16/02/2023 14:10

But he's presumably keeping his job. And the reason this is so public is because of his name and career.
It just seems very unfair to me.
She's an ordinary person who will find it harder than than him to get employment.

I think this was discussed up thread. Most sportspeople would keep their jobs. It’s more the client facing roles that usually take the issue and fire.

she lost her job, but he got the over whelming public humiliation, her identity has been so far protected as her face is not shown, so she didn’t. His kids got copies. It’s likely her kids haven’t. They are both as guilty as each other, just suffered in different ways.

my opinion is I’d rather be her and fired than him and fhe overwhelming public humiliation and his kids defo seeing it.

as for her it not being fair, well she should have thought of that before she dropped her kecks and bent over in public.

Herroyal · 16/02/2023 14:59

'I think we're in dangerous territory if people are losing their employment because of something unsavoury they do in their private life.'

She needs to have a big move to escape this. I think I'd bugger off to Oz or somewhere for a year or so... shame she's lost her job, but from their point of view when her name comes out, so will the name of the company, and they don't want their name being dragged through it all.
They want a search of the company name to bring up good reviews or their website not that video...

jemimapuddlepluck · 16/02/2023 15:01

ImAvingOops · 16/02/2023 13:43

I think we're in dangerous territory if people are losing their employment because of something unsavoury they do in their private life. Not unless their job involves modelling good behaviour to children, like a teacher or police officer for example. She's an estate agent - her ability to do her job isn't affected by her personal life. Her boss shouldn't be able to just get rid of her. It's not like she was shagging him at work (which plenty of people have done and not been sacked for).

Perhaps if people faced consequences like this, it might make them think twice about acting like a dirty bastard, rimming/being rimmed in alleys behind their wives/husbands backs

HelloBunny · 16/02/2023 15:17

And his wife dragged into it, too.

All for what was probably a split second decision by the rimmer to get the rimmee wet for a rogering. Behind the bins around the back of Greggs (yes, I’ve read the paper but not watched the video). Terrible...

GoingOnce · 16/02/2023 15:22

a split second decision by the rimmer to get the rimmee wet for a rogering

How unlike the home life of our own dear Queen…

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Surplus2requirements · 16/02/2023 15:29

I imagine it's well known who she is locally, it's not like her and more importantly her family will escape the public shaming.

As wrong as they were none of the kids impacted deserve the trauma resulting from the video being uploaded. How will they even leave their houses?

PrincessConstance · 16/02/2023 15:37

Hellsmovie · 16/02/2023 13:45

It's more about the her association with the company then bringing the company into disrepute.

It is purely about the company's reputation.
People have been fired at my place for taking drugs at work events on hired premises, and for sex in toilets.
Dp personally fired 3 employees for damaging a hotel room whilst working away. In the office and fired with no pay within 5 mins.

ReneBumsWombats · 16/02/2023 15:40

jemimapuddlepluck · 16/02/2023 15:01

Perhaps if people faced consequences like this, it might make them think twice about acting like a dirty bastard, rimming/being rimmed in alleys behind their wives/husbands backs

They do face consequences like this, and losing their families, and public shaming, and it doesn't stop them. Catherine Howard committed adultery while married to Henry VIII even though her own cousin had lost her head just a few years earlier after being falsely accused of the same.

I don't know what the secret is to making humans stay monogamous when they don't want to, but public shaming doesn't seem to do it...and it's hard to see who benefits from it apart from a keen and prurient public. Children certainly don't.

lovemyflipflops · 16/02/2023 16:00

Oh heck - she's been named on Twitter - I am not going to divulge on here - but from what I can see she is a very pretty blonde who has worked hard for the same company and had a really good job

  • so many lives ruined over a fumble behind an alley - it's out there forever now.

How undignified to have this on the interweb to haunt you forever

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