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That rugby player…in a scrum with a woman down an alleyway… wtf!

881 replies

GoingOnce · 15/02/2023 19:53

AIBU to be shocked someone would want to do this/have it done to them? I mean, the main offense is that he’s cheated on his poor wife, but also - is this a thing??? 🤢

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eighteenthirteen1 · 16/02/2023 09:18

Whatever they did, they didn't deserve it being filmed without their consent and released for the whole world to see.

Completely agree

ReneBumsWombats · 16/02/2023 09:18

Littleloveydovey · 16/02/2023 09:15

Imo the video releaser is the worst one here imo

wow. Really, two people cheating, with their friends, engaging in public sex, two married people, two people with children. Rimming in public.

and for you the worst is the person who told?

fuck me,that’s a whole different level of morality,

If he had to "tell", he could have limited it to the families involved. Who else needed to know?

What were the rimmers trying to achieve by getting off together? What was the filmmaker trying to achieve by filming it and publishing it on the Internet?

Littleloveydovey · 16/02/2023 09:21

Florenz · 16/02/2023 09:18

Whatever they did, they didn't deserve it being filmed without their consent and released for the whole world to see.

Disagree. As I don’t know who did it, and it could be her husband or a close friend, if you’re going to cheat on your spouse and engage in some very public rimming then you alone are responsible

Tratjymp · 16/02/2023 09:23

There are positives that we can focus on.

Her bum was really clean after that.

Wiltinglettuce · 16/02/2023 09:24

His poor wife and children! I have a 16 year old DS and imagine he wouldn’t be able to return to school, he wouldn’t want to see anybody, he’d be absolutely mortified and that’s putting it mildly.. Also her DC if she has any.

The dickhead who not only filmed but posted the video should be charged with something, don’t know what but there surely needs to be something in place.

Sad and awful circumstances all round really. A stupid, selfish, disgusting 5 minute act has had devastating consequences for many people.

Twawmyarse2 · 16/02/2023 09:24

Bansheed · 16/02/2023 07:48

It is pure guillotine knitter mentality. Her life is already destroyed. She does not need to be publicly hunted and shamed too.

Has anyone ever read "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson? That's what a lot of the comments here bring to mind.

Stone the bitch, name and shame her, give her what she deserves.

There are some really vile people on this thread.

Pirateships · 16/02/2023 09:25

eighteenthirteen1 · 16/02/2023 09:18

Whatever they did, they didn't deserve it being filmed without their consent and released for the whole world to see.

Completely agree

Me too, the fact some feel it's justified is really weird.

Moonmelodies · 16/02/2023 09:25

The clip I've seen cuts short. What was her answer when the cameraman asks her if he may have a go?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/02/2023 09:26

Disagree. As I don’t know who did it, and it could be her husband or a close friend, if you’re going to cheat on your spouse and engage in some very public rimming then you alone are responsible

I agree. And you aren't entitled to privacy in a public place.

billy1966 · 16/02/2023 09:27

Obviously they are both cheaters but I'm actually having difficulty to comprehend the utterly foul nature of what he was doing.

His poor wife kissing that mouth, not knowing where it has been.🤢🤮

As for the release of the video, absolutely shocking too.

Such a nasty deliberately destructive act.

I could well believe his marriage is over.

His poor children.

SuitsYouSirS · 16/02/2023 09:27

Twawmyarse2 · 16/02/2023 09:24

Has anyone ever read "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson? That's what a lot of the comments here bring to mind.

Stone the bitch, name and shame her, give her what she deserves.

There are some really vile people on this thread.

Putting aside their wrongdoing, I shudder to think if the impact of this on the woman. She must be going through worse than hell. This is the kind of thing that causes people to take their own lives.

ReneBumsWombats · 16/02/2023 09:27

Twawmyarse2 · 16/02/2023 09:24

Has anyone ever read "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson? That's what a lot of the comments here bring to mind.

Stone the bitch, name and shame her, give her what she deserves.

There are some really vile people on this thread.

Yes, I've read it and I thought of it too.

You might also like So You've Been Publicly Shamed by Jon Ronson.

pristinesurfacesGBTD · 16/02/2023 09:29

OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 15/02/2023 20:25

Ah yes the Yorkshire Rimmer........ has put a lot of people off Greggs in the local vicinity as well. Just an absolute twat to do this and in public. Some things should just be for home consumption only.

Yorkshire rimmer 🤣😂

Swiftswatch · 16/02/2023 09:29

StepAwayFromGoogling · 16/02/2023 09:03

Not even remotely the same thing.

You’re right, this is far worse.

drpet49 · 16/02/2023 09:31

Florenz · 16/02/2023 09:18

Whatever they did, they didn't deserve it being filmed without their consent and released for the whole world to see.

Then the dirty pair of cheaters should have got a hotel room.

Twawmyarse2 · 16/02/2023 09:33

ReneBumsWombats · 16/02/2023 09:27

Yes, I've read it and I thought of it too.

You might also like So You've Been Publicly Shamed by Jon Ronson.

I've read The Psychopath Test by the same author - il check that one out too thanks ReneBumsWombats - maybe make sense of some of the horrific mentalities on here!

I suspect IQ levels come into it somewhere.

Tratjymp · 16/02/2023 09:33

Moonmelodies · 16/02/2023 09:25

The clip I've seen cuts short. What was her answer when the cameraman asks her if he may have a go?

Was he asking her, or the brewers' droop guy?

pristinesurfacesGBTD · 16/02/2023 09:35

LuluBlakey1 · 15/02/2023 20:56

It was an alley down the side of Greggs. He is bending, with his trousers and pants round his ankles and everything on show, behind a woman who is standing bent over with her pants down and her hands on the ground, her dress up over her back and her bare arse in the air. His face is in her backside licking her and at the same time he's shoving his fingers in and out of her vagina. It is crystal clear.

A bloke walks up the alley with his phone videoing saying Westermann is down there. He lets the camera run on and then says 'Can I have a go?' Westerman looks up and stands up exposing himself and sort of steps back looking drunk and starts to pull his pants up as if he's giving the bloke 'a go'.

I so regret clicking on it on Twitter- I thought it would be something blurry and unclear and not anything like what I saw. It's disgusting- literally an alley, he's like a dog on heat. She is just as disgusting- apparently the wife of one of his best friends. I'm still shocked by it- I think I must live a very sheltered life.

He's only sorry because he got caught. I bet he'd just have gone home and kissed and touched his wife with that mouth and that hand, or his kids. It's totally sickening and utterly humiliating for his wife, children, parents, in-laws. Cheating is bad enough but this is so vulgar and squalid and grubby.

Yeah but what really happened?

WilsonMilson · 16/02/2023 09:36

ReneBumsWombats · 16/02/2023 08:56

If you do something like that, which is lewd and libidinous conduct and against the law, then you forfeit the right to privacy in my opinion. His teenage daughter has seen it online, which is just disgusting. Can you even imagine the horror and revulsion?

If his privacy had been respected, his daughter would not have seen it.

Which do you want?

I think the point is, don’t partake in that behaviour if you don’t want the consequences. His daughter has seen it which are the consequences - unfortunate but ultimately that’s his doing. I do not think he has a right to privacy here. Go to a private place if you want privacy.

Littleloveydovey · 16/02/2023 09:36

Moonmelodies · 16/02/2023 09:25

The clip I've seen cuts short. What was her answer when the cameraman asks her if he may have a go?

He isn’t asking her, he is speaking to the male and clearly interrupting it on purpose, he isn’t seriously asking for a go. For goodness sake.

704703hey · 16/02/2023 09:36

It's separate things, feel really sorry for wife and children, children on both sides.

Cannot understand the filming and distribution, unless the filmer was as drunk as they were. It was rimming not full sex? It seems like they all knew each other 🤷‍♀️

It does raise questions about media and consent to distribution

ReneBumsWombats · 16/02/2023 09:38

Twawmyarse2 · 16/02/2023 09:33

I've read The Psychopath Test by the same author - il check that one out too thanks ReneBumsWombats - maybe make sense of some of the horrific mentalities on here!

I suspect IQ levels come into it somewhere.

It would be nice to think so, but honestly, I doubt it. I have to ask myself why I'm on this thread when I'd never even heard of this guy before. What's my interest?

Littleloveydovey · 16/02/2023 09:38

A bloke walks up the alley with his phone videoing saying Westermann is down there. He lets the camera run on and then says 'Can I have a go?' Westerman looks up and stands up exposing himself and sort of steps back looking drunk and starts to pull his pants up as if he's giving the bloke 'a go'.

this is not my take at all. Joe clearly looks shocked and then placatory. So it is obviously either her husband or more likely a friend of theirs putting a stop to it. Becsyde as said. The odds of this being their first is limited to non existent.

Littleloveydovey · 16/02/2023 09:40

If his privacy had been respected, his daughter would not have seen it.

if he’d not publicly rimmed his mates wife his daughter wouldn’t have seen it. There fixed that for you.

StepAwayFromGoogling · 16/02/2023 09:40

704703hey · 16/02/2023 09:36

It's separate things, feel really sorry for wife and children, children on both sides.

Cannot understand the filming and distribution, unless the filmer was as drunk as they were. It was rimming not full sex? It seems like they all knew each other 🤷‍♀️

It does raise questions about media and consent to distribution

I can guarantee that if I found two of my friends rimming down an alleyway, I'd be out of there like a shot, not filming it and posting it on the Internet 😕