Manager said no to holiday request

[Buddythecat1]

I'm probably going to get my arse handed to me on a plate here but fck it.
I asked for two days off on Monday just passed
I asked 10 days in advance.
Just been told today that it's been refused.
I asked why, was told 'I don't know'

I am very hot headed and I have such strong temptation to walk put right now. (I have another thread about my contract if anybody cares)
I've been spoken to like shit by this manager, talked down to on a daily basis, I've been micromanaged.
I dread coming to work, I cry most days. Management allowed another employee to verbally abuse me and no consequences were ever brought to the other person.

Would I be totally unreasonable to walk out? The thought of never having to work in this place again gives me great relief. Or am I just being stupid and should suck it up

Leave anyway. A new job will arrive.

Walk. That all sounds awful. I have often been scared to leave a bad situation but in recent years was brave and have not regretted it.

have u shown them the hospital letter-you asked for holiday leave so tghey might not belive you when you turned round and said actually its for a medical appt

I don't know what you're basing this on (I'm guessing retail or entertainment) but most places aren't that crap to their employees.

An organisation routinely "investigating" sick leave taken over Christmas like you're some kind of criminal shows a dysfunctional management - staff relationship.

That's nowhere near enough notice. Everywhere I've worked it's been three months min in advance unless it's an emergency rather than a holiday day.
My industry is a "high pressure environment" so it's less flexible than some, but even still.
Tbh you sound hard work.

Legally they have to pay you outstanding holiday when you quit OP

Are you even required to take annual leave for a hospital appointment?

I really would talk to HR and/or union.

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Go in today and take your hospital letter with you and ask again if that day can be reconsidered due to medical reasons, plus it'll no doubt take ages to get a new date through.
Sickness absence leave, that does sound like a hell of a lot, also the days you've taken as parental leave, is this taking time off to look after your sick children ? I have recently had to tell someone who works in one of my teams that she needs to share these with her husband as both parents and businesses they work for to share that burden. You've likely hit a trigger, we have these, and we end up setting timeframes where any sickness absence over another set amount of days is given (eg 3 days over the next 6 months), and if that is also triggered it can lead to more micromanagement od sickness and ultimately dismissal. It may be the company you work for has the same policies.
I don't think you're helping yourself if you're hot headed either as that's not really acceptable and it causes friction and people don't tolerate this very well as it's quite manipulative on people surrounding you. You may find it's why you're getting grief at work.
Good luck and I hope you get the new job.

People saying it's not notice are not considering the circumstances, or your contract.

In my role, for example, you have to give a minimum of 3 days for annual leave requests. Depending on your role it would be sensible to give as much notice as possible so that your request takes priority over others for cover. But leave should be agreed unless there is a legitimate business need to refuse - which it doesn't sound like there is in your case OP.

This sounds like very poor management tbh. I think HR/union should be involved.

My contract says as much notice as possible 🤷‍♀️

Parental leave was a day off for my daughter's birthday, day off for school, day off for very inflexible parents evening, day off because I had no other childcare due to snow(partner was stranded somewhere else)

I did clear up my hot headed comment. I'm the type to think fuck this and quit on the spot. Nobody in my work place would ever regard me as an angry person so I'm definitely not manipulating nothing or nobody

The job market is pretty dead at the moment with lots of companies having hiring freezes and mass redundancies. I would definitely try to get another job before you leave.

I had one of these bosses. He ignored it and when the week came (request neither approved or declined ) I found he and his side kick had decided to take that week off.

Just walk - it is a sign of their whole toxic management style.

Seriously? Do you know that people get letters about hospital appointments a few days before at times?

And I very much doubt you've had to give three months' minimum unless you eg work as a train driver and even then I suspect there is some flexibility with rotas. What about if you are called into a meeting at your child's school at short notice? Or have to take an elderly parent for an operation? Or collect them after it?

We're not talking about a day off to go to a picnic in the park here. And so what if we were?

I also hate the expression "you sound like hard work". From an internet post? Yeah right.

You took parental leave for your child birthday and for parents evening??

Isn’t it for like childcare emergency’s or your child being sick.

Schools understand not all parents can get leave so tend to do phone appointments at a mutually convenient time, or even request just a half day or to leave a few hours early. You really don’t need a whole day off for a 10 minute parents evening.

I get the feeling they think you just take a lot of time off just because you fancy it tbh.

No that's what a company has to legally do, if they want you to take holiday

Lots of industries don't have unions and unions do jack nothing

Well I asked for days off during the hiring process.
I only found out last month that it was put down as parental leave. They've now lumped sick days in with parental leave so the amount of time off has triggered an investigation even though the parental leave days were agreed before I'd even started!

Depends on the OP's own characteristics including health.

Not sure why you are quoting me. I know the law because I've had to use it - I didn't realise at the time I could have been the test case until my then employer turned really nasty - and I've advised other people to use it. However people need to work out themselves whether a law is relevant to them as it is their fight.

Probably should have led with the information that it's for a hospital appointment. What's the other day for?

I think you have had an empathy bypass.

Sorry - should have qualified it a bit better. I wasn’t criticising in any way, just emphasising that you can’t have just any medical condition considered as a disability - it has to comply with the Equality Act, the conditions of which I quoted for clarity. I did ask the OP this earlier in the thread but she advised it was a minor condition.

Already established - a minor condition that doesn’t qualify under the Equality Act as a disability. Looking back at the OP’s posts I don’t think there’s anything else that would qualify as a protected characteristic, unless she’s pregnant.