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DH miserable due to family daily routine. AIBU for sticking with it?

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legworker · 15/02/2023 13:26

My lovely DH is in a grump. Our current family routine means that we (DH, me, 2x tween-teen DDs) are eating our evening meals separately three times a week. DH is upset that he "comes home to a house which is dirty and cold, no-one is home and the washing-up is not done so he can't make his tea." He has also commented that I am pushing him out of family life with this routine and my inflexibility.

Some facts:
DH works M-F 9-5 office job based a ten minute drive away. However he is usually not home until after 6pm.

I work from home Mon-Thu 8-4. I used to work M-F 9-3 when DDs were younger to fit around school hours. When DDs were very young (and I was in a previous role) I worked three days a week term-time only.

We are both qualified professionals, albeit in different fields, and have always had around the same FTE salary, although my take-home pay has been less in the years when I was more part-time.

DDs do a lot of sport. Three times a week, the kids and I eat at around 5pm. We all leave the house around 6pm and are home again by 9pm. The kids can't get themselves to training due to where DH and I have chosen to live, so I drive them there and back. In the 2 hours or so that they are training, I do the supermarket shop (twice a week), do my own sport with a club (twice a week), and go for a run with a friend (once a week). We have had this routine for the last 12 months, since younger DD moved to the same training schedule as older DD. Prior to this, I would drop older DD, return home for about 30 minutes (when I would see DH if he was home), drop younger DD and then do the supermarket shop (twice a week)/run with a friend (once a week) before returning home with both kids at 9pm.

DH plays one of his sports in a club on one of our 5pm tea evenings. His training session runs from 7-9pm and he arrives home after us that night. He sometimes has matches (home and away) on other nights of the week too, but not that frequently.

We have an old, large house that is hard to get/keep warm.

Some more objective viewpoints:
I do 99.99% of the food shopping, preparation of evening meals and clearing up. I also generally make breakfast (as we have the kind of breakfasts where it is more efficient to do it once for everyone, rather than a 'help yourself to cereal and toast' kind of breakfast) and am usually up 30 mins-1h before DH to fit in household chores before work.

I have always cooked meals for all the family and we have always tried to eat together. When the kids were very little, we would have tea relatively late (after 6pm ish) compared to friends so that we could all eat together. The other four days of the week, we eat later than 5pm so that we can all eat together as a family. On the three days of the week when DDs and I leave at 6pm, I leave DH's meal in the pan(s) to warm up, or he might have to quickly cook something slightly different to go with what has already been made due to dietary requirements/preferences across the family (e.g. he might have to cook some gluten-free noodles to add to the stir-fried meat and veg that we have already made, and eaten our share of, with wheat noodles). As time is tight, I don't generally have time to ensure every kitchen item is washed and put away before leaving the house at 6pm, but I do try to ensure that the kitchen is tidy enough to be functional. Some less-often used items that don't go through the dishwasher may sit next to the kitchen sink for a few days before being washed up by hand. Dishwasher is put on at least daily by me.

I do most of the other general housework (cleaning, laundry, putting bins out, looking after the animals) and life admin (utilities etc, school admin, sport admin for kids).

DH is very handy practically and does a lot of things that are outside my skill set. He does a lot of car, bike and house maintenance/improvements that most people would pay for. He mows the (very large) lawn in the warmer months, washes the cars and, periodically, the outsides of the windows. He does most of the heavy gardening. He does occasionally run the hoover round or wash up.

DDs make their own packed lunches, sort their own food for lunch if they are at home (weekend, holidays), get themselves to school and back, and keep their own bedrooms clean(ish!). They are both mature and independent (they keep on top of homework, take the right things to school on the right days, get their kit together for training and events and sort it out afterwards, put their dirty laundry in their laundry bin and collect and put away their clean laundry). On a quiet day at home, they may help with jobs around the house.

So, AIBU for making tea at 5pm three nights a week to accommodate our DDs' hobbies, and then using their training time to do the supermarket shop and do my own exercise?

And, more kindly, what do you think we (individually or as a family) could change to make my DH less miserable?

(Sporadic poster here; have namechanged for this.)

OP posts:
Peachy2005 · 15/02/2023 15:51

He sounds like a bloody big baby and you sound like WonderWoman - he needs to grow up!

REignbow · 15/02/2023 15:51

I would ignore what he is saying, because IMO he is saying it to make you feel bad!

You work full time and do the majority of the drudge.

what he really wants is to come home to a hot meal (like the rest of the week) and where his plate is swiftly taken from him and washed up.

What he is really complaining about is that he having to do this himself.

suck it up. He’s whinging

SunshineLoving · 15/02/2023 15:53

That's really wrong IMO. Why are you the one to be rushing around three nights a week, making sure your DDs can do their hobbies, are he's got 3 nights to himself every week? And is moaning about it. He should be making the effort to come home just after 5 and take your DDs to their hobbies. He can either have his dinner before he takes them or at 9pm. That's what a lot of dads I know do who have children who do clubs. They make the effort to take them.

He needs to start pulling his weight and stop moaning about what you are doing wrong when you are run ragged.

MaybeIWillFuckOffThen · 15/02/2023 15:56

What I'm hearing is you're running around like a blue arsed fly after everyone and he's cross because there's a few frying pans left by the sink when he gets home and the heating is off?

Put it back on and put on a jumper. Ignore the washing up or bloody do it man.

Jesus. He sounds frankly useless. If he finishes work at 5, can be home by say 5.30, and the girls need to go out at 6, why isn't HE coming home in time to take them to club at least one night out of 3 and giving you an evening to loaf around the house? Does he do anything remotely useful in the 9 hours a week he is in a house with no-one to please but himself? Or just sit around feeling sorry for himself?

It sounds like you are being incredibly efficient and doing everything for everyone whilst still managing to squeeze in a tiny it of self care and socialising in there - bloody well done you and don't let moany-boots piss on it.

Climbles · 15/02/2023 15:57

He could be home in time to come with you and you could do dinner/an activity together while the girls are training. He could take over running the girls to sports one day and you could make tea for both of you when he returns. He could make tea for both of you for when you get back. He could ask to change his hours. Surely you’re home most nights after training so why is he being so needy?

G5000 · 15/02/2023 16:01

You work the same hours and make the same money. He has an extra 10 min commute, but you do practically everything (bike repair is very occasional work and even big lawn does not need to be mowed daily, so no, not the same).

And he expects that a 50s housewife is waiting for him with pipe and slippers, sparkling house, clean moppets and dinner ready.

Hahahahahaaa. I have some ideas. DH, get home 5.10, clean up after your dear wife has cooked and fed the children, say thank you for all she does for you.

amonsteronthehill · 15/02/2023 16:02

Frankly, your DH needs to step up and get his backside home by 5:30 (easy to do since he's off at 5 and works 10 minutes from home, you say), and do some of the sports running with his own DDs.

You work as much as he does PLUS you have the other 'job' of all the shopping, cooking, cleaning, and child running by the sounds of it.

He's not pulling his weight. I'd pull him up sharply on this.

Ugzbugz · 15/02/2023 16:02

JJJSchmidt · 15/02/2023 13:37

I do think it sounds a bit sad for him, i wouldn't like a family routine as you have described, it's not 'wrong' or 'unreasonable' as much as it just wouldn't suit me. I think you need to talk to each other about the things that could change as a family to make aure that everyone's needs are met.

So this pathetic man could get home at 5.10 for dinner and do some of the donkey work ferrying his kids around but you think these kids should miss out on their hobbies just to sit in every night eating boring dinner?

Thought this was 2023.

M1418 · 15/02/2023 16:03

He needs to cut you some slack! I’d love to see him in your shoes

Ugzbugz · 15/02/2023 16:03

Tbh I think I would divorce him. He sounds totally wet.

xogossipgirlxo · 15/02/2023 16:05

I thought you were going to say that you cook for yourself and kids, and he needs to sort out his own meal, which I wouldn't be happy about too. But seriously, you leave his portion, he only needs to heat it up or cook separate noodles which is 20 minute job, what else is he expecting? You're doing a lot anyway. He's BU.

placemats · 15/02/2023 16:08

Why can't he do an online shop?

Why can't he wash the bloody dishes?

Cantbebotheredwithausername · 15/02/2023 16:09

What is his own suggestion? I think he should come up with a solution (that doesn't add to your burden or takes away any of your free time).

summerhillnest · 15/02/2023 16:10

Yet another thread where I want to mention That Darned Chat/Laura Danger in IG and the Fair Play method by Eve Rodsky. Worth a look OP for a way to think about how you share these tasks.

WaddleAway · 15/02/2023 16:13

xogossipgirlxo · 15/02/2023 16:05

I thought you were going to say that you cook for yourself and kids, and he needs to sort out his own meal, which I wouldn't be happy about too. But seriously, you leave his portion, he only needs to heat it up or cook separate noodles which is 20 minute job, what else is he expecting? You're doing a lot anyway. He's BU.

Why wouldn’t you be happy about cooking your own dinner?

SunThroughTheCloudsAt6am · 15/02/2023 16:13

I get that it probably feels a bit sad coming home to a dark, cold house 3 times a week.. but.. you guys don't exist as a prop for him, you are real people with real lives, and he's completely welcome to involve himself - invite him along, see how he responds?

NumberTheory · 15/02/2023 16:14

It sounds like he really enjoys your home life and values the warmth and comfort of the family which is a good thing! But it also sounds a bit like he’s a bit entitled about it. Maybe the chores he does amount to the same as the chores you do, though that seems unlikely, but he doesn’t seem to be appreciating that you are running around all the time trying to fit things in, whereas he gets home and it may be dark but he can choose to do as he pleases.

I think a sit down talk about what it takes to make the home a functioning and warm place day-in-day out and what he could do to help make it like that is probably past due.

On the practical ideas front:
*Washing up - dishwasher (or a second dishwasher if the issue is that there’s no space in the one you have) and pans that are dishwasher safe could clear this path. (It could be DHs job to make sure the dishwasher(s) is empty in the morning so it’s easy to just chuck everything in after you use it).

*Shopping - not sure if it will free time in a way that's useful, but do you really need to shop twice a week? Could you do an online order together when you're both home instead? Not sure how this helps really, unless it gives you time you could go back home or for him to join you for a meal out.

*Like you, he could be doing an hour of chores in the morning. Maybe focused on making the home more welcoming for when he (and you and the kids) get home. Maybe meal prep?.

*He could take over the evening chauffeuring one night a week. If his work finishes at 5, you feed the kids, he gets back and takes them off, does his sport and the shopping or whatever. You do your sport and have some down time. Then the two of you eat together when everyone’s back (might be a bit late).

*He could just be responsible for making the house nice and welcoming for when you all get back - so maybe you just snack at 5, he gets home, makes the house welcoming and cooks a late supper for you all for when you get back.

*He joins you. If the sport you do is flexible you could do something together. You could shop together. Get dinner together. Etc.

*He takes up sport or other hobby of some sort straight after work on nights you're out.

WaddleAway · 15/02/2023 16:14

If I come home to a dark house I switch the lights on 😂.

PhillySub · 15/02/2023 16:15

If he would move himself when work finishes he would be home earlier as it is he wants everybody to move their lives around him.

BalloonInvestigator · 15/02/2023 16:16

placemats · 15/02/2023 16:08

Why can't he do an online shop?

Why can't he wash the bloody dishes?

Blimey, he MOWS THE LAWN, what more can the poor lamb be expected to do.

Oncetheystartschool · 15/02/2023 16:17

Its only 3x a week? Can your DH work 8-4pm those days instead of 9-5 and then you all eat tea at 5.30 together?

Sounds like he's just moaning because you're all busy doing life and he feels left out. Poor pathetic man. He needs to muck in more and could easily get home earlier if he wanted to.

Twillow · 15/02/2023 16:20

Is there any flexibility in his working day? Could he jiggle hours, shorten lunchtime, start earlier? Why is he taking an hour to get home?

Threeboysandadog · 15/02/2023 16:24

This is only 3 days of the week, yes? send him round to mine. My three have completely different schedules Monday to Friday evenings . The chances of us all eating dinner together are practically zero and with 2 with ASD the chances of all eating the same thing are even more remote. You could move more locally to their activities so they can take themselves there and back or you could come home after dropping them, spend the time, eat dinner with dh and he could pick them up whilst you do an online shop. However it sounds as if you have got a routine that you and the kids are happy with so I think he really needs to suck it up. They will be off to University before you know it and he can have you all to himself.

stripedsox · 15/02/2023 16:25

An over worked opening post for a relatively straight forward situation.

WonderingWanda · 15/02/2023 16:27

He is coming across a bit selfish op. His gripes seem to imply that your dd's should give up their clubs, you should tidy the house more and have a meal on the table to great him. He doesn't seem to have adjusted to the fact that your dc are older and have interests of their own they wish to pursue. Also, what if you went back to work 9-5 5 days a week, where would the warm house and meal be for you? Part of being an adult is working then coming home and sorting out your tea. He had been incredibly privileged to have a wife doing this for him for so long. Like so many of us you have taken on an uneven share of the family workload because you are part time and now your dh is being a bit of a spoiled brat.

You could handle this in a few different ways, personally I'd tell him you are offended that he is being grumpy when you do so much. Suggest that he can take on the cooking, cleaning, shopping and clubs for the next half term to see how he likes juggling it all, you can go full time and he can reduce his hours.