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DH miserable due to family daily routine. AIBU for sticking with it?

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legworker · 15/02/2023 13:26

My lovely DH is in a grump. Our current family routine means that we (DH, me, 2x tween-teen DDs) are eating our evening meals separately three times a week. DH is upset that he "comes home to a house which is dirty and cold, no-one is home and the washing-up is not done so he can't make his tea." He has also commented that I am pushing him out of family life with this routine and my inflexibility.

Some facts:
DH works M-F 9-5 office job based a ten minute drive away. However he is usually not home until after 6pm.

I work from home Mon-Thu 8-4. I used to work M-F 9-3 when DDs were younger to fit around school hours. When DDs were very young (and I was in a previous role) I worked three days a week term-time only.

We are both qualified professionals, albeit in different fields, and have always had around the same FTE salary, although my take-home pay has been less in the years when I was more part-time.

DDs do a lot of sport. Three times a week, the kids and I eat at around 5pm. We all leave the house around 6pm and are home again by 9pm. The kids can't get themselves to training due to where DH and I have chosen to live, so I drive them there and back. In the 2 hours or so that they are training, I do the supermarket shop (twice a week), do my own sport with a club (twice a week), and go for a run with a friend (once a week). We have had this routine for the last 12 months, since younger DD moved to the same training schedule as older DD. Prior to this, I would drop older DD, return home for about 30 minutes (when I would see DH if he was home), drop younger DD and then do the supermarket shop (twice a week)/run with a friend (once a week) before returning home with both kids at 9pm.

DH plays one of his sports in a club on one of our 5pm tea evenings. His training session runs from 7-9pm and he arrives home after us that night. He sometimes has matches (home and away) on other nights of the week too, but not that frequently.

We have an old, large house that is hard to get/keep warm.

Some more objective viewpoints:
I do 99.99% of the food shopping, preparation of evening meals and clearing up. I also generally make breakfast (as we have the kind of breakfasts where it is more efficient to do it once for everyone, rather than a 'help yourself to cereal and toast' kind of breakfast) and am usually up 30 mins-1h before DH to fit in household chores before work.

I have always cooked meals for all the family and we have always tried to eat together. When the kids were very little, we would have tea relatively late (after 6pm ish) compared to friends so that we could all eat together. The other four days of the week, we eat later than 5pm so that we can all eat together as a family. On the three days of the week when DDs and I leave at 6pm, I leave DH's meal in the pan(s) to warm up, or he might have to quickly cook something slightly different to go with what has already been made due to dietary requirements/preferences across the family (e.g. he might have to cook some gluten-free noodles to add to the stir-fried meat and veg that we have already made, and eaten our share of, with wheat noodles). As time is tight, I don't generally have time to ensure every kitchen item is washed and put away before leaving the house at 6pm, but I do try to ensure that the kitchen is tidy enough to be functional. Some less-often used items that don't go through the dishwasher may sit next to the kitchen sink for a few days before being washed up by hand. Dishwasher is put on at least daily by me.

I do most of the other general housework (cleaning, laundry, putting bins out, looking after the animals) and life admin (utilities etc, school admin, sport admin for kids).

DH is very handy practically and does a lot of things that are outside my skill set. He does a lot of car, bike and house maintenance/improvements that most people would pay for. He mows the (very large) lawn in the warmer months, washes the cars and, periodically, the outsides of the windows. He does most of the heavy gardening. He does occasionally run the hoover round or wash up.

DDs make their own packed lunches, sort their own food for lunch if they are at home (weekend, holidays), get themselves to school and back, and keep their own bedrooms clean(ish!). They are both mature and independent (they keep on top of homework, take the right things to school on the right days, get their kit together for training and events and sort it out afterwards, put their dirty laundry in their laundry bin and collect and put away their clean laundry). On a quiet day at home, they may help with jobs around the house.

So, AIBU for making tea at 5pm three nights a week to accommodate our DDs' hobbies, and then using their training time to do the supermarket shop and do my own exercise?

And, more kindly, what do you think we (individually or as a family) could change to make my DH less miserable?

(Sporadic poster here; have namechanged for this.)

OP posts:
Orangello · 15/02/2023 19:17

he is lonely and never sees you or the girls mid week

well he could come home at 5.10, have dinner with family and take girls to their activities, but he prefers not to.

NaturalBae · 15/02/2023 19:19

He needs to get home earlier so he can be more involved. It sounds like you could do with his assistance in ferrying the kids around in the evenings. He could also do the shopping sometimes, seeing that you do all of the cooking and much more re. the kids and the day to day running of the house.

Look at various options that allow you to time the heating to come on just before you arrive home.
Or he could put on a warm jumper and thick socks and turn the heating on himself, eat the dinner that you do most or all of the prep for and then pull his weight by doing some washing up and whatever else needs doing inside the house.

OP sounds knackered.
Although, I’m impressed that she multitasks so well and also finds the time to fit in her time for weekly sporting activities and catching up with friends (important me-time). I need to take a lead out of her book on that front.

OP - Be kind to yourself

arethereanyleftatall · 15/02/2023 19:20

So basically, you do pretty much everything, he does pretty much nothing, yet you both somehow think this is your fault and up to you to sort?!? And, of course he's 'lovely' . Ie not remotely lovely. Selfish, lazy, sexist.
If he wants to get involved in family life, he could get off his arse and stop leaving everything to you.

CleaningOutMyCloset · 15/02/2023 19:20

Lots of options for him

You could plate him up a dinner which he warms up when he gets home
He can get home earlier and have dinner with
He can drive to meet you whilst the dc are at sports and do something with you and/or the kids

Sounds like he wants family life to revolve around him and he's sulking. It doesn't work like that with teenage sc

Grizzledstrawberry · 15/02/2023 19:21

Sounds like your his maid not his wife.

Tell him to suck it up, he's making his own tea and he can start doing his fair share of the housework too.

mewkins · 15/02/2023 19:22

Oopswediditagain2023 · 15/02/2023 14:15

Same. Me and my partner having dinner together is a non-negotiable for me as it's often the only time we have together to talk about our days

But he's the one missing dinner by not leaving work on time.

NaturalBae · 15/02/2023 19:22

Ohtheyresickagain · 15/02/2023 19:11

How old are you @Gui out of interest

You’d think @Gui was the OP 😂

NaturalBae · 15/02/2023 19:26

I’m sure grown men are able to put food on a plate 🥴

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 15/02/2023 19:27

^You say you do a full breakfast every morning. And go shopping twice a week.
There is no reason why the girls and you could not do cereal and toast or similar. They might like it too. With a lot less mess to clear up. So dirty crockery and items should have no need to accumulate by the dishwasher.^

Or perhaps, instead of everyone having to give up the breakfast that they presumably like for one that might well create more washing up anyway, DH could get out of bed a couple of minutes earlier and wash what might well be one single pan.

Valuesarekey · 15/02/2023 19:28

You are both similarly salaried professionals. You could go full time and then he can do all the stuff you do. You could make sure you are back by 5.10 to eat the meal he has cooked for you?

DontMakeMeShushYou · 15/02/2023 19:32

I'm amazed by a lot of the replies here. The Of course he's miserable if he comes home at 6pm half the week and theres no one home type of replies. I know mumsnet is pretty MC but it's as though no-one has ever considered what happens where one or more parents does shift work. Not spending every night of the week sitting down as a family is the norm in millions of families.

elmooie · 15/02/2023 19:32

ItchyBillco · 15/02/2023 19:06

So they should all give up their hobbies to accommodate a whinging man-child who is sulking because he has to put some lights on and feed himself, despite not having to do anything else? A man-child who twats about wasting an hour at work deliberately so he doesn’t have to actually do something for his family.

Yeah, fuck that.

Exactly. I think it helps to imagine it switched - I would hate not seeing my family until 9pm 3 X per week. It would feel lonely. But I would make an effort to change things for the better myself - eg leaving work early some nights, or offering to take the kids one night.

NaturalBae · 15/02/2023 19:34

Many of us working women have seen many of these so-called family men staying back late and faffing about at work simply to delay their arrival home. They do it in order to avoid having to pull their weight by getting involved in the family evening routine.

HalftermHell2 · 15/02/2023 19:37

Well that was an awfully long post that could have been summarised in a paragraph. He either comes home earlier some nights and eats together or your daughters don't do as much sport. He should be doing his share of taking them too, I wouldn't be happy doing all that running around and spending 3 nights a week out the house until 9pm.

Ponderingwindow · 15/02/2023 19:42

On the nights i have to leave to start chauffeuring dd around before DH gets done with work, I typically come home to find he has cleaned the kitchen, taken in packages, and done laundry. He hops right into home life and pitches in to do as much work as I am doing while making sure dd gets fed, driven around, and completes her homework. He also feeds himself.

in other words, I don’t know why your husband is the one complaining.

Parisj · 15/02/2023 19:51

He said he is sad. Its not up to you to provide a solution. (I often fall into this habit).

I'd say, ok, so what changes can you make to improve it?

LivelyBlake · 15/02/2023 19:56

Is there a nice pub nearby? We could always go to the pub at 6 and have something to eat there and go back home at 9.

BloomingXmas · 15/02/2023 19:57

Your dh is a moaner

LifeunderMarrs · 15/02/2023 20:00

LivelyBlake · 15/02/2023 19:56

Is there a nice pub nearby? We could always go to the pub at 6 and have something to eat there and go back home at 9.

Bingo!

Ragwort · 15/02/2023 20:00

He sounds utterly wet ... it was my dream to have a few hours peace and quiet when my DH was running our DS around to sports practice, scouts etc. Can he really not occupy himself usefully (& do some chores) for three evenings a week .. or come up with a solution whereby he helps with the logistics?

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/02/2023 20:13

Are a few posters really suggesting the girls, who are doing happy, healthy, positive things, stop doing some of them so their father can have them home as support humans? Because he's sad, three nights a week.

Really?

mum2jakie · 15/02/2023 20:13

OH seems pretty spoilt and selfish. I'd just ignore his moaning and suggest he gets home quicker if he doesn't want to come home to an empty house. Sounds like a bit of a knob to me!

Orangello · 15/02/2023 20:13

could always go to the pub at 6 and have something to eat there and go back home at 9.

or, or - I know, it sounds crazy - he could actually go home and clear up the mess he's moaning about?

grumpycow1 · 15/02/2023 20:15

He needs to grow up…

QuestionsFromThePublic · 15/02/2023 20:15

If you are cooking, your DH should be doing all the dishes or going shopping. You do not have a fair division of labour.

My OH hates cooking. We both cook 3 days a week. One of the DC cook the other day.

As I batch cook at the weekend, OH clears down the kitchen after every meal. DC empty the dishwasher.