Page 6 | To wonder why some men hate women so much?

girlfriend44 · 2023-02-14T10:01:19+00:00

What's with all the misogyny? Why do some men hate women so much. Men can't exist without women? All men have a mother! Can't understand the likes of Wayne Couzens either he was married to a woman and had a daughter, yet he raped and killed a woman. Why didn't he care that his daughter now has to grow up knowing her father hated women and killed one?

Towntroubadour · 15/02/2023 10:22

@Timesawastin, how do doctors assign people at birth? I have an image of a conveyer belt and the doctor randomly stating male or female. I thought it was observed at birth because of biology. I’m a bit confused how anyone can be assigned at birth.

MiaMoor · 15/02/2023 10:34

bananaAgogo · 15/02/2023 07:12

I am hoping that all mother's n here are bringing up decent sons, I think a lot starts with the parenting of boys. I remember when my husband left me and my children, I was determined to bring my son up to respect women and treat them well and as equals. I know he will do the same with his son.

Why is it always mothers that have to raise decent sons? As soon as there are problem men on the scene it’s never about their father, the influences on them from friends and/or social media, it’s all about the mothers.

I have two adult sons, once they got to secondary school age they were far more influenced by their friends. Their father also had an impact in the way he let me be a single parent while we were still together.

I honestly believe that if decent men (I’m sure there are some) stop enabling rape jokes, sexual banter, stop making excuses for rapists, stop watching porn, stop going to strip clubs on stag dos because they’re too weak to say no, become decent role models for teenage boys, this would go some way to fix the problem that leaves many women distrustful of all men.

There are men in my life that I love, but once you see everyday misogyny you can’t unsee it, and it’s uncomfortable to watch the women in my life putting up with entitled behaviour without even realising it’s happening.

MiaMoor · 15/02/2023 10:36

And to whoever said men are assigned at birth - unless they have a very rare DSD that means they have ambiguous genitals at birth, they are seen to be male at birth.
Stop using wrong terms to justify c*ltish ideologies.

Thesharkradar · 15/02/2023 11:50

I honestly believe that if decent men (I’m sure there are some) stop enabling rape jokes, sexual banter, stop making excuses for rapists, stop watching porn, stop going to strip clubs on stag dos because they’re too weak to say no, become decent role models for teenage boys, this would go some way to fix the problem that leaves many women distrustful of all men
I agree, we wouldn't have such a problem with bad men if more of the (supposedly) decent men stepped up and pushed back against them before they get out of control.
Out of control bad men have been a problem for every society as far as I can see, but they are easily riled up and manipulated and this makes them useful tool for corrupt populist leaders etc- it's easy to turn them into 'useful idiots' and I suppose that is why why they prevail 🤷

UWhatNow · 15/02/2023 19:48

I honestly believe that if decent men (I’m sure there are some) stop enabling rape jokes, sexual banter, stop making excuses for rapists, stop watching porn, stop going to strip clubs on stag dos because they’re too weak to say no, become decent role models for teenage boys, this would go some way to fix the problem that leaves many women distrustful of all men.

There are decent men like this. Most of the men in my family and friendship circle (varying ages) wouldn’t stand for any of that nonsense…

MiaMoor · 15/02/2023 20:24

UWhatNow · 15/02/2023 19:48

I honestly believe that if decent men (I’m sure there are some) stop enabling rape jokes, sexual banter, stop making excuses for rapists, stop watching porn, stop going to strip clubs on stag dos because they’re too weak to say no, become decent role models for teenage boys, this would go some way to fix the problem that leaves many women distrustful of all men.

There are decent men like this. Most of the men in my family and friendship circle (varying ages) wouldn’t stand for any of that nonsense…

That’s great.
I’ve yet to meet a man who would speak out to his friends/family when they’re being inappropriate but thinking they’re being funny.

bananaAgogo · 16/02/2023 07:30

MiaMoor · 15/02/2023 10:34

Why is it always mothers that have to raise decent sons? As soon as there are problem men on the scene it’s never about their father, the influences on them from friends and/or social media, it’s all about the mothers.

I have two adult sons, once they got to secondary school age they were far more influenced by their friends. Their father also had an impact in the way he let me be a single parent while we were still together.

I honestly believe that if decent men (I’m sure there are some) stop enabling rape jokes, sexual banter, stop making excuses for rapists, stop watching porn, stop going to strip clubs on stag dos because they’re too weak to say no, become decent role models for teenage boys, this would go some way to fix the problem that leaves many women distrustful of all men.

There are men in my life that I love, but once you see everyday misogyny you can’t unsee it, and it’s uncomfortable to watch the women in my life putting up with entitled behaviour without even realising it’s happening.

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Don't be so judgemental, I wasn't being so🙄🤷‍♀️
I met my partner who is none of anything like a man you describe. Mother's are WOMEN. Teach your son's to respect their mum's and show them how to behave around women. Dad's too of course.

Jewel1968 · 08/04/2023 11:33

Have not read the whole thread but I have always been struck by how my DS never had female friends and my DD had one male friend who eventually asked her out. I just wonder if this lack of friendship across the sexes means they don't see us equally and that we are somehow not of the same species. See us a something to acquire etc ...

Are there any cultures where it's not like this?

I see it at work too, men hating to be challenged by women particularly if they are forthright in delivery.

Squeezita · 08/04/2023 11:49

ScramblePud · 14/02/2023 18:25

It literally doesn’t do that at all. Do some Pakistanis hate Indians? Yes. Is that a fact? Yes. Is it an undeniable truth? Yes. Why do you think it’s offensive or mockery to say so? The alleged reason or supposed justification behind the hatred doesn’t change that it exists and is entirely irrelevant to this conversation. This dynamic also wasn’t singled out (as you accused), it was in a long list of others too. All you’re doing is demonstrating that hatred to be honest.

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This is some of the worst gaslighting I’ve seen.

Racist as fuck.

Squeezita · 08/04/2023 11:51

BumpySkull · 14/02/2023 18:07

It’s not remotely offensive to say that some Pakistanis hate Indians to the same extent that some men hate women and some white people hate black people and some tenants hate landlords. Why do you believe it is offensive? How is it any more offensive than any of the other examples or, in fact, the OP itself?

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I’ve already explained why it was offensive. But you hate away.