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To thing the worlds gone dog mad...

270 replies

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 22:27

I just feel people put dogs on too much of a pedestal. I like dogs, but I just think people almost see them than more than they are, which is, let's be honest, an animal.

I understand how they can be an elderly persons only companion, can fit well into the right family, can help people in need in many ways I do, but just some examples.

I work in a cafe. When we say dog friendly area is outside we get looked at like we've said they can't bring their child in.

I live with my mum and my daughter who's 16 months. She bought a sprocker puppy, he's big, he's massively energetic and he play bites.
He bit her and made her cry, then knocked her over and jumped on her. She's heavier than him. When I asked her to put him behind the gate she said "he's only a baby" and "this is his home, it's not (my daughters) home) every time he's a little bugger she just says "he's only a baby"

People who will fully argue with that they they thing dogs are equally worth the same as children, like there is some comparison. I'm sorry but my own flesh and blood who literally grew in my is never a comparison to a dog?

I just don't go gooey over them. I like a cute dog as much as the next but I'd never seem them or put the trust in them around children like some people do, and recent news of a dog sadly killing a little girl doesn't seem to make people think twice even it's just "my dog would never do that"

AIBU to have that opinion?

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Tirednest · 10/02/2023 23:15

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NotABeliever · 10/02/2023 23:15

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 22:55

@CherLloydbyCherLloyd it's definitely not malicious and he doesn't growl or snarl so maybe I would say mouthing? It's what puppies do when you try to stroke them if you know what I mean? But now he's got adult teeth and a stronger jaw. He's left teeth marks on me before and it can bloody hurt! but mums doing no research into how to stop it. I've tried ignoring and stopping stroking him if he does it, saying no, sitting on my hands.. I don't know.
We have the living room with a baby gate and then the hallway and kitchen all connected so he could easily have the hallway and kitchen while we stay in living room which works well in the day but mum just insists on him being with us when she's home.

I hear you. My brother and his wife are exactly like this with their very boisterous and totally untrained labrador. Luckily the dog is good-natured and hasn't harmed anyone but if you dare suggest keeping her behind a gate or not letting her jump on you, they start moaning "poor xxxdoggiesnamexxx" and try to guilt-trip you.

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 23:15

@CherLloydbyCherLloyd I never thought about coming at it from that angle. I might do a bit of research about the amount of exercise and stimulation a dog his breed and age should have and show it to her tomorrow! x

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GreyTS · 10/02/2023 23:15

MelaniesFlowers · 10/02/2023 22:43

YANBU. People are unhealthily obsessed with their dogs and treat them as children. They’re just pets.

It’s indicative that something else is wrong and/or missing in their life.

That's so mean! Yes there is something missing in my life, I'm single, no close family, o do have children but it's my dog who sleeps at the end of my bed every night. And yeah right now, going through some pretty awful stuff in my life she's all I have

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 23:17

@GreyTS I'm sorry to hear that. If you have children though, surely the dog isn't all you have?
If that's the case I have nothing 😳

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FrasierCranesHumongousAssContest · 10/02/2023 23:18

Why is your mum saying "It's (dog)'s home not (your DD)'s home if you and DD live with her? Surely it is DD's home too?

Clarissa111 · 10/02/2023 23:19

Your problem is your mum, and your living arrangements. Not the dog.
I have a big dog. He's soft as anything. But I put him in the garden if a workman etc comes in as he loves a fuss and won't leave people alone.
I love my dog lots, but if he hurt anyone, let alone a child, I wouldn't hesitate to have him pts.
I have a lot of control over him. He would jump up a child and hurt them on a walk if given a chance. Not bite, but knock them over. He never gets the chance.
You need to look at your living arrangements.

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 23:19

@NotABeliever YES! That's like my mum!!! It makes me so angry! If my child went round biting and smacking people I wouldn't just be like "aww poor DC!" I'd sort them out! x

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Northernsouloldies · 10/02/2023 23:19

Op so your mum has put her dog ahead of any concerns you have regarding safety. Dog no 1 her own granddaughter down her list of priorities, that's bizarre.

Teatime55 · 10/02/2023 23:20

I grew up with dogs, I love them. They’re still a
pet.

I have 2 friends from uni who haven’t had children but have dogs. I’ve had to mute them on SM. One gives a blow by blow account of her dogs including their bowel movements. One puts a post about her dog (who died a year ago) on Facebook every day. It’s become so strange in a few years.
I love dogs, keep them fucking outside though. DD is autistic and can’t cope with them and I hate them being inside places.

Suzi888 · 10/02/2023 23:21

A few things.

  1. You need to move out, it’s not your house.
  2. Was it a good idea your mum acquiring a pet with you there? Nope. But see point 1.
  3. Some people choose children, some pets, some both. It’s okay! Different things are important to different people.
  4. Children can be just as bloody annoying as unruly pets. DD causes more chaos than my Lab.
  5. Puppies do bite and scratch. This is why they have to be trained. Really, this is a post about your mum- not pets. So YABVU. MN hates dogs- so fill your boots.

It’s funny you see both “adult only luxe holidays” and “holidays with no pets allowed”- it’s a theme! Both can be bloody annoying!

@BloomingXmas - you don’t just Chuck a dog in a crate ffs. That’s not training is it?! That’s laziness.

GreyTS · 10/02/2023 23:21

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 23:17

@GreyTS I'm sorry to hear that. If you have children though, surely the dog isn't all you have?
If that's the case I have nothing 😳

My children are at their dads, I've just had my heart broken, I'm a grown up I can't fall apart at work or in the gym or at a coffee morning with friends. I cry in bed alone with the dog

Suzi888 · 10/02/2023 23:23

“I love dogs, keep them fucking outside though. “

What’s the point. Do you sit outside with them or just watch them or what ? Seriously don’t get this at all. Why have them.

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 23:23

@FrasierCranesHumongousAssContest you tell me. She keeps telling my daughter to "get back to Bristol" where my ex lives in what was the family home. She's basically trying to push us back there as she knows I have no money to live on my own at the moment. I'm on a council waiting list but no homes comes up anywhere near the area and I don't want to uproot eldest dc plus my job and friends are here.
Honestly if the dog makes her cry, she'll cuddle the dog over my daughter. Don't think I've ever heard her say she loves her, not once.
In anger I said tonight in 13 years time when the dogs dead and your granddaughter wants nothing to do with you, you'll regret being this way. But she doesn't give a shite.

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mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 23:25

Ahh @GreyTS I'm so sorry to hear this. You'll get through it. I think this is what I was referring to when I said "dogs being good for the right families" youre obviously one of the right families. My inbox is always open Flowers

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Tirednest · 10/02/2023 23:25

Move out then. It's her house, she can do what she likes.

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 23:26

@Tirednest I know this and she repeatedly tells me. But with 2 young children, a job where I only bring home £500 a month and no local social housing coming up often. It's easier said than done.

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AlwaysGinPlease · 10/02/2023 23:26

Dacadactyl · 10/02/2023 22:36

YANBU. All this dog worship that goes on is ridiculous.

Not half as ridiculous and really boring as all the anti dog nonsense thread and their posts. Yawnnnnn!

Teatime55 · 10/02/2023 23:27

Suzi888 · 10/02/2023 23:23

“I love dogs, keep them fucking outside though. “

What’s the point. Do you sit outside with them or just watch them or what ? Seriously don’t get this at all. Why have them.

I don’t have dogs, I grew up with them, I don’t have them.
But we can’t go in certain places because people now bring them inside and DD can’t cope with them.
Personally I think paying customers should take
priority over dogs.

WhenisitmyturntobePM · 10/02/2023 23:27

I think your irritation is specific to your circumstances - who locks a spaniel in a separate space all day and then (reluctantly) allows it into the living room at night and is annoyed it’s hyper? Course it’s bloody hyper, it’s barely walked, socialised or stimulated. Shit life for a dog and your mum should be ashamed. I’m not surprised you’re perplexed by other dog owners putting their dogs ‘on too much of a pedestal’ given the ridiculously low bar your family sets.

Twawmyarse2 · 10/02/2023 23:29

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 22:41

Every time I ask her to put him behind the gate (he can literally see us but just couldn't get to my daughter) she says no and that he has more right to live here than we do. If I try to control him I get "he's only a baby" it's 6 months old now and he weighs more than she does!

You’re mother is an irresponsible dickhead.

I hope her decision to prioritise her fucking dog over her grandchild doesn’t come back to bite her on the arse. I hope you can move out soon OP.

CherLloydbyCherLloyd · 10/02/2023 23:29

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 23:15

@CherLloydbyCherLloyd I never thought about coming at it from that angle. I might do a bit of research about the amount of exercise and stimulation a dog his breed and age should have and show it to her tomorrow! x

Definitely! It sounds like your mum is maybe single? Once you and your children leave, it’ll just be her and the dog - although it sounds like she has a rich life with work, family and socialising, ultimately it’s the dog she’s coming home to each night.

The bond between an owner and their pet (I speak about dogs since that’s what I have but may also be true of other pets) is very different than any family or friend bonds you can have. Dogs don’t try to fix your problems, they don’t judge you, and they are always happy to see you. When I’ve been really down, my dog is always there, and doesn’t ask for anything back.

I absolutely do not love my dog more than human members of my family. But sometimes, I really need her. If you watch afterlife, you might see a snippet of what the relationship between a human and a dog means to someone with a dog.

It doesn’t sound like your mum is doing any of this to directly upset you, although you are perfectly reasonable to be upset.

Tirednest · 10/02/2023 23:30

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 23:26

@Tirednest I know this and she repeatedly tells me. But with 2 young children, a job where I only bring home £500 a month and no local social housing coming up often. It's easier said than done.

Then don't start threads slagging off dogs and be grateful you have somewhere to live.

mrspotatohead21 · 10/02/2023 23:35

@Tirednest all my problems solved in one sentence, thank you for your knowledgeable and very helpful insight 😒

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ForestMountainsDesertOcean · 10/02/2023 23:35

YANBU. It's a mental disorder, imho. Absolute madness. Can't wait til the tide turns.