To thing the worlds gone dog mad...

[mrspotatohead21]

I just feel people put dogs on too much of a pedestal. I like dogs, but I just think people almost see them than more than they are, which is, let's be honest, an animal.

I understand how they can be an elderly persons only companion, can fit well into the right family, can help people in need in many ways I do, but just some examples.

I work in a cafe. When we say dog friendly area is outside we get looked at like we've said they can't bring their child in.

I live with my mum and my daughter who's 16 months. She bought a sprocker puppy, he's big, he's massively energetic and he play bites.
He bit her and made her cry, then knocked her over and jumped on her. She's heavier than him. When I asked her to put him behind the gate she said "he's only a baby" and "this is his home, it's not (my daughters) home) every time he's a little bugger she just says "he's only a baby"

People who will fully argue with that they they thing dogs are equally worth the same as children, like there is some comparison. I'm sorry but my own flesh and blood who literally grew in my is never a comparison to a dog?

I just don't go gooey over them. I like a cute dog as much as the next but I'd never seem them or put the trust in them around children like some people do, and recent news of a dog sadly killing a little girl doesn't seem to make people think twice even it's just "my dog would never do that"

AIBU to have that opinion?

Tells you to “get back to Bristol” and she has a drink problem…. The dog is the least of your worries.

Go to your LA and speak to someone in the housing Dept.

Yanbu

YANBU but with rising infertility and the declining birth rate the 'furbabies' 🤢 will soon take over.

Totally missing the point

Could not agree more with this, that's one of my main gripes with these types of people - I've seen so many unhappy, anxious dogs as a result of "fur baby" type owners!

Of course you are not unreasonable to have this opinion, everyone can have an opinion.

I do however think you have to respect your mum and her home. She doesn't want 6iu there and is making an effort because she knows you are in need and she loves you and your child.

You need to look to move out asap. Sadly she doesn't sound like a good dog owner, but that's for another thread.

I adore dogs. Have 2 big dogs myself however, of course my children are more important as is the safety of anyone else's child.

Your Mum should not be letting her puppy around a child in the mouthing/biting stage. She is going to raise a dog with potential to cause harm if she leaves this unchecked.

Honestly OP I'd be keeping your child well away if your Mum isn't going to train her dog.

I am dog daft but also a responsible owner, that's what your Mum is lacking

Ah sorry, I have not rtft, it didn't all load.

YANBU at all. So many times massive fucking dogs running up to my kids etc - proportionally the same as a massive horse hurtling straight towards a grownup. So scary! Owners completely oblivious.

And that’s aside from the general grottiness of a dog - fur, poo, hawking up phlegm, eating dead things, sick, ticks. Ugh.

I’ll have my parents’ dog to stay and be nice to it, but they’re not gods gift.

Dogs are great but I can't stand them in coffee shops or anyplace serving food. I had a curious dog's nose half an inch from my lunch the other day, the owner was not oblivious, just not arsed to do anything about it.

Another dog up on the furniture, another dog with his front paws up on the bar.
Some poor old man tripped over a puppy that the owner wasn't bothered to keep a check on and it had wandered off.

And yes there are plenty of places that don't accept dogs and I could go there instead, but I want to be able to go to my 'local' in peace - which is the only pub for miles in all directions.

And certainly the only one I can walk to (or stot home from at closing time!)

Nobody wants a dog to mouth their child so not sure of the purpose of the comparison.

it is clear the baby doesn’t have a safe space from the dog. A god can nip bite or mouth a child even when an adult is present. It is clear from OP the dog owner is not taking responsibility for preventing it.

Dog* not god lol

There are a few issues here OP, I'm sorry your mum isn't being more supportive of your situation. She's a very irresponsible dog owner, what does she think the dog is doing whilst she's out all day? The dog needs routine which will support the boundaries you need in place for the safety of your children.

For the short term whilst you are there there are a few training tips you could follow to make your life easier. The dog is craving stimulation and attention, so absolutely ignoring him will help to deflect his attention onto other things that he will get a reaction from (your DM, shoes, skirting boards). Turn your back when he jumps up, tell your son to do the same and don't use any language towards the dog. It seems cruel but it isn't, shouting and telling the dog is worse because it doesn't understand and thinks you are encouraging him.

The dog shouldn't be in the house constantly. Are you able to take him for a walk during the day? Then he'd have a lot less energy built up and will be calmer on an evening. You could also give him a chew toy or chew stick to keep him busy during bath and bed time. There are lots of stimulation puzzles you can get for dogs which will help him. If you begin running the bath then get out the chew/toys he'll start to see the cue and focus on that rather than jumping all over your children.

I'm a dog person, I feel so bad for this dog. I also feel terrible for your children who have to put up with this behaviour from a dog and are definitely at risk from it. I think you need to step in for the short term to make the situation better for your children but move out. Your DM is selfish and nasty towards you, your children and the dog.

No actual dog lover would teat a dog in this way, it's cruel. It absolutely isn't your responsibility to train the dog but you are living there and unfortunately your DM doesn't seem to care about the safety of your children. Living there means you are going to have to step in.

Another one who is missing the point of this thread.

Unless you're like the OP's careless, thoughtless, clueless, negligent Mum?

Sorry OP, but I feel very badly for you. The dog, I suspect, is just the tip of the iceberg for you. Your Mum is the problem here.

YANBU - and this comes from someone who loves her dogs. They're part of my 'pack' and I couldn't think my my daily life without them. That said, dogs must be worked, trained to behave, otherwise they are at danger of harming (even the smallest and fluffiest of breeds have a jump instinct, bite instinct etc).

It's absolutely essential to train/socialise and animal to live safely with you. A risky animal risks being destroyed. I don't understand your Mum's (and some other dog owners') negligence.

This whole "fur-baby" bollocks has actually created an even bigger problem, in that children and some adults want to touch, pet, cuddle and pick up dogs like they're cute babies/dolls/teddy's, sometimes other people's dogs!!

Anyway. I'm could go on and on. Reasonable and responsible animal owners will 100% feel for you. We get it. But, your Mam is the biggest issue here. I'm so sorry for your situation OP. She's being a shit Mum.

These endless dog slagging threads are one of the worst things about this site. Maybe cheerful dog lovers are too busy with their happy real lives to start threads.

Seriously?

Would you not help your own child out in such horrible circumstances??

Yes I would, because my children love my dogs.

The dog is six months old. He's a puppy he won't have been neutered

Excellent post.

I meant to say at the end of my post:

She's being a shit Mam and a shit dog owner.

If your mum has only walked her puppy once since you’ve been there she’s not a good dog owner. No wonder the dog is boisterous, no energy is being expended, it’s totally unfair and the reason why this puppy is being OTT.

I have a ten month old puppy who has the right amount of exercise and is being trained not to leap at people. Yes puppies mouth (it isn’t biting, but part of their development, think babies putting stuff into their mouth as a comparison) and they can be clumsy and daft, but as an owner you need to be showing them where it’s ok, for example when having a game with someone big enough, and where it isn’t.

If the dog isn’t being walked or trained at all she’s doing absolutely nothing she should as a responsible dog owner, with a high energy breed, and that’s why I think she’s being unreasonable.

However if you’re living there rather than just separating the dog during the day you could help out by walking it, get your child into a buggy and take them both out. You’ll then have a massively improved dog in the evening. You’ll also be doing the right thing for the animal who isn’t at the moment being cared for properly.

This thread isn’t about dogs though really. It’s about your mum problem and the crap situation you are in. Ok you don’t like dogs either.

To me it sounds like your mum doesn’t want you there. She got the dog anyway despite asking her to wait and probably all the crap you’ve gone through she doesn’t seem to care much for you and your children.

She also irresponsible for not training her dog or even talking it for walks. I grew up with working dog breed spaniels they need a lot of exercise. It’s no wonder they are bouncing around. Lockdowns created a huge issue with so many getting dogs and not understanding how to look after them or not caring once they went back to work.

And do you walk your dogs @Tirednest? Train them? Because this seems to be the crux of OP's problem really.

OP I'm so sorry your mum is so shit and not putting you and her granddaughter first.

I do wish that you'd started this thread to complain about her, rather than generalising about dog owners though, as it obviously gets our backs up.

It’s not a comparison, but it’s a hugely important thing to identify. A dog biting a child can put the child’s life at risk, whereas a dog mouthing is a normal developmental stage that all dogs go though, and completely normal at 6 months.

@trythisforsize it was Silverburn shopping centre in Glasgow. A woman was quoted as saying she saw dog poo in the food court 🤢
Hopefully it doesn’t catch on.