Men are only really nice up until about 25

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I remember my friend saying this to me when we were in our late twenties, years ago.
I’m now mid 40’s and kind of see what she meant
Is there something wrong with me in that I don’t seem to be seeing men in the same way anymore? I used to love men’s company, even though I’m a girls girl/woman’s woman, whatever you call it, I often found men better company in some ways..but now, I can’t help wondering what most of them are probably like deep down..the porn they probably watch or the way they may secretly view women etc
Is this a mid 40’s thing?

Sorry, lack of full stops towards the end there..!

I think we all get grumpier as we get older. Somehow, grumpy men bother me more so I notice it more and they all seem grumpier the older they get.

Even the dog (a boy) seems to get grumpier as he ages. I'll get a girl next time.

@RomansTheyGoTheHouse Yes, guys did seem much nicer, more fun and less miserable/serious when they were younger, but then I guess I was too

Most men are boring . I’m mid 4os and dating and honestly on some dates I’ve been on I’m bored to tears and couldn’t wait to get away. The older I get the more I enjoy female company with my friends. Much more interesting conversation but it could just be me.

What a strange post! Men don't change their personalities when they hit 26

I have lots of male friends. They are witty charming , fun.

I suspect when younger they're more likely to be single and therefore try harder to charm you! Then of course as we age both younger and older guys tend to be more interested in trying charm the younger women than us.

I love men my age, late thirties and early forties. Having kids, getting married and being open about mental health has really softened them.

Men in my twenties… not so much.

Aaaah. THAT'S where all the decent blokes are.

Now we know!

Wierd and sexist

Imagine if a man said that about women !!

A lot of my friends husbands are really grumpy now (mid-forties to mid-sixties) and to be honest, so are my friends! I think we all start to wear out a bit, our tolerance goes with our hormonal drop in the peri-menopause and so everything is more annoying including men/children/animals/parents. Just a thought.

On the contrary I love men of all ages.

But then I have nice men in my family, and my married friends tend to have nice husbands.

Very weird and sexist lol tbh all my life from teen I've always had more male friends than women lol women are too much hard work !

Omg no! Teen boys are absolutely awful - highly sexually charged, arrogant, entitled. They tend to chill out a bit through their 20s but perhaps the overt sexuality gives way to something more like chauvinism. The teen boys at my ‘nice’ school were fucking hideous at times, their mums would NEVER have guessed it.

It’s very sexist, but I’m kind of with you, OP. I used to have a lot of male friends and thought of myself as someone who preferred their company. Now I’m early 40s and I too wonder about their porn habits, general attitude to women, etc. My male friends who are more open about the way men think don’t provide any reassurance.

I know all humans are fundamentally terrible, but I do think men are worse, as a sex class. I prefer the company of my female friends now.

Bizarre, and not to say sexist and ageist post

Individually, my dh has become lovelier over the decades.
But, like many other posters, I have loads of lovely men that I know, from 18 to 96. There's no 'cut off' at which point personalities change. How odd.

Personally I don’t think they’re ripe until about 45 😆

But then admittedly, it’s a fast decline.

That said, I don’t think they’re any better under 25. I just think I was less aware of the issues around masculine culture.

Snap!

I don't agree with that at all, I know lots of middle aged men who are really good people, and even have one of my own, who is the best man I have ever met, apart from my dad who is now an excellent old duffer!

What a horrible, sexist OP. I really think you need to reevaluate the way you perceive men and women. Even when you felt positively about them it sounds like you were limping them into a group and working on a lot of unexplored preconceptions about men and women.

What is a woman’s woman? Are all of the women you know the same? Surely not. Neither are men and wild generalisations about either side will just stop you from making genuine connections with the individuals within each group.

Fwiw I knew many nice men in my teens and twenties and many arseholes. Same for girls and women. And same now I’m in my forties. I try to meet people as they come without loading a lot of stereotypes or preconceptions into them.

Must be mainly just me then 🤷🏻‍♀️

Girls {Canines} can get 'Moody'...Here is a cross face of a young dog who slipped on rocks and was saying ''Why did you bring me here! It's slippy!''

Re men..there are some right grumps about, but that goes for women, too!

I don't know. I never fancied many men/boys under 25, even when I was under 25 myself. I preferred someone who was mentally mature and knew who they were.

At the same time a lot of middle aged men I find grumpy, dull and don't look after their health or fitness. Which is fine, but at the same time they think they are god's gift to the world, and women don't tend to be quite so over-confident and egotistical, in my view.

I've known too many men that I thought were decent good guys but were exposed as not being. I'm quite cynical now, though I wish I wasn't. I genuinely hope I meet some good uns who get me to reverse my view.