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Whichusernametocreate · 2023-02-06T15:23:21+00:00

I remember my friend saying this to me when we were in our late twenties, years ago. I’m now mid 40’s and kind of see what she meant Is there something wrong with me in that I don’t seem to be seeing men in the same way anymore? I used to love men’s company, even though I’m a girls girl/woman’s woman, whatever you call it, I often found men better company in some ways..but now, I can’t help wondering what most of them are probably like deep down..the porn they probably watch or the way they may secretly view women etc Is this a mid 40’s thing?

MarshaMelrose · 07/02/2023 02:01

My dad was the loveliest man til the day he died at 84. ❤

hailer · 07/02/2023 02:09

@Celia24
I love that you have a good relationship. Hope it can happen more often.

BertaHoon · 07/02/2023 02:10

I think there's many an under 25 year old that has 'porn habits' whatever that is.

I found myself embroiled in an emotional affair with a 64 year old who watched and wanked every night to porn.

Why is it about porn?

I've always preferred an older man. I was very much a lads girl, friends with males when I was younger, I probably still am now. I find women two faced and bitchy. You usually know where you stand with a bloke (unless you're married to him it seems on MN).

PrincessConstance · 07/02/2023 07:28

RunRunRunSomeMore · 06/02/2023 22:12

The testosterone level drop around age seventy is well documented, leading to men being more bad tempered, the grumpy old man syndrome.

Testosterone production declines sharply from about early fifties. But why would that make someone grumpy?

Old people are often less positive, life affirming and open to new experience than younger people, but I can't say I've particularly noticed the big difference between the sexes being suggested here. There are plenty of bitter and resentful older women around.

It is true that women often tend to keep their social networks alive better, and that probably mitigates against the sense of turning inwards.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/male-menopause/

mood swings and irritability
loss of muscle mass and reduced ability to exercise
fat redistribution, such as developing a large belly or "man boobs" (gynecomastia)
a general lack of enthusiasm or energy
difficulty sleeping (insomnia) or increased tiredness
poor concentration and short-term memory

There is also evidence to suggest men have less testosterone now than ever before. There are men who seem to hit Male menopause significantly earlier than the stated 40-50s.

ElonsMusky · 08/02/2023 04:38

damn can't believe this poll is evening out....for feminists some of you are sexist AF.

Blessedwithsunshine · 08/02/2023 07:40

ElonsMusky · 08/02/2023 04:38

damn can't believe this poll is evening out....for feminists some of you are sexist AF.

Maybe women have finally had enough?

Newnamenewname109870 · 08/02/2023 07:41

Are you sure you’re not just noticing the flaws of your generation?

HRTQueen · 08/02/2023 07:49

I think you are hitting peri menopause

when you get we are more nurturing we need to be as we are (or most of us) having babies there is a need to find a mate

as you get older there isn’t this need

yes I know we don’t need a man but biology regardless of societal changes still drives us

we simply don’t need them

PrincessConstance · 08/02/2023 08:29

Blessedwithsunshine · 08/02/2023 07:40

Maybe women have finally had enough?

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A small percentage, plus they're projecting.

LeilaGetTheHose · 08/02/2023 09:06

Can you imagine if a man had posted this about women. This is an awful gender generalisation!

Tirednest · 08/02/2023 09:07

LeilaGetTheHose · 08/02/2023 09:06

Can you imagine if a man had posted this about women. This is an awful gender generalisation!

So? They didn't.

IncompleteSenten · 08/02/2023 09:14

Do you mean men are only nice until they are 25 or do you mean women only think men are nice until we are 25 and then the rose tinted glasses come off?

I can only speak for myself but when I was in my late teens and early twenties I was a very insecure young woman, desperate for male attention and approval. Plus I loved the whole 'bad boy' bollocks and thought drama was exciting . 🤦

As I grew up and matured I became less shallow, I got burned and I learned and I understood people more and I made better choices. I began to value different traits.

I then hit my 40s and completely ran out of fucks to give or interest in drama bollocks.

Dotjones · 08/02/2023 10:15

IncompleteSenten · 08/02/2023 09:14

Do you mean men are only nice until they are 25 or do you mean women only think men are nice until we are 25 and then the rose tinted glasses come off?

I can only speak for myself but when I was in my late teens and early twenties I was a very insecure young woman, desperate for male attention and approval. Plus I loved the whole 'bad boy' bollocks and thought drama was exciting . 🤦

As I grew up and matured I became less shallow, I got burned and I learned and I understood people more and I made better choices. I began to value different traits.

I then hit my 40s and completely ran out of fucks to give or interest in drama bollocks.

Yeah that's a good point. I think it's either it's that we only see reality at about that age. Possibly it's at that age that men see reality about us and stop trying so hard (relatively speaking).

I have to laugh at all the people pointing out this thread is sexist though, eg the comment damn can't believe this poll is evening out....for feminists some of you are sexist AF. People - men - don't seem to realise that feminism is about more rights for women, for better treatment for women, for a better society for women. Feminism isn't about equality, it's about improving things for women. From a strictly feminist POV sexism is only a problem if it's against women.

StephanieSuperpowers · 08/02/2023 10:19

LeilaGetTheHose · 08/02/2023 09:06

Can you imagine if a man had posted this about women. This is an awful gender generalisation!

Oh yeah! Just imagine what it would be like if men were contemptuous of women! Goodness, they'd probably say all kinds of mean things! Thank goodness they appreciate all women of every age and treat women so well.

WandaWonder · 08/02/2023 10:21

So women remain perfect saints?

I am different now than I was in my med 20's why is it a surprise anyone on not the same?

Orangepolentacake · 08/02/2023 11:08

@Whichusernametocreate I understood your post to mean that men are nice up until you - woman - are 25?

I get what you mean. I used to tolerate bantz, ‘prefer’ male company, and then the more men I got to know and the more I got to know each of them…. I also wondered about their habits, the views they developed from being socialised in an inherently sexist society, etc

Knight900 · 08/02/2023 13:18

What a horrible sexist post OP. With views like this I despair for my teenage son. There seems to be a lot of ill informed prejudice on this forum about men in general.

you need to check yourself

Knight900 · 08/02/2023 13:29

Dotjones · 08/02/2023 10:15

Yeah that's a good point. I think it's either it's that we only see reality at about that age. Possibly it's at that age that men see reality about us and stop trying so hard (relatively speaking).

I have to laugh at all the people pointing out this thread is sexist though, eg the comment damn can't believe this poll is evening out....for feminists some of you are sexist AF. People - men - don't seem to realise that feminism is about more rights for women, for better treatment for women, for a better society for women. Feminism isn't about equality, it's about improving things for women. From a strictly feminist POV sexism is only a problem if it's against women.

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to use the feminist point of view as somehow a way of justifying sexism against men is frankly ludicrous. Clearly from a few of the posts here many of you simply cannot offer a balanced opinion just more anti men sentiment. Unbelievable

saraclara · 08/02/2023 13:47

Sexism is sexism. Its definition isn't solely tied to feminism.
If you're prejudiced towards someone based on their sex, you're being sexist @Dotjones

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I'm sorry that you know such terrible men.

Not a single man in my life has ever behaved that way. Sadly a few women have. My last boss being a fine example of the type.

UsingChangeofName · 08/02/2023 20:27

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Unless you know the ordinary, non-drama seeking, nice men that so many of us on this thread do.
I am sorry that you don't have those good men around you, but it doesn't then follow that all men are like that. they really aren't.

ElonsMusky · 14/02/2023 21:08

Blessedwithsunshine · 08/02/2023 07:40

Maybe women have finally had enough?

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not really an excuse.

I've had enough with a lot of BS from men, but I don't hate all men or make really idiotic generalizations about them.

Did you know women are capable of being absolute shit too?

IAmTheWalrus85 · 14/02/2023 21:19

I don’t think it’s that men are less nice after the age of 25. I think it’s that they’re generally more pleasant to women aged under 25. So you notice it when you’re no longer 25.

IAmTheWalrus85 · 14/02/2023 21:24

saraclara · 06/02/2023 22:57

I'm just imagining a post elsewhere, by a man who says "women are only really nice until they're 25"

Oh, it will have been said and written millions of times, don’t you worry!

I remember reading a piece in the Times 10 years or so ago entitled something like ‘the problem with women is that they’re over by the age of 30’. It was an opinion piece by a male author whining about how women over 30 aren’t attractive.