Men are only really nice up until about 25

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I remember my friend saying this to me when we were in our late twenties, years ago.
I’m now mid 40’s and kind of see what she meant
Is there something wrong with me in that I don’t seem to be seeing men in the same way anymore? I used to love men’s company, even though I’m a girls girl/woman’s woman, whatever you call it, I often found men better company in some ways..but now, I can’t help wondering what most of them are probably like deep down..the porn they probably watch or the way they may secretly view women etc
Is this a mid 40’s thing?

I’d say the opposite; boys are awful from about 12 to about 25 as their hormones rage. If I could do my life again knowing what I know now I’d be celibate until 25 and only then start dating.

This. I’ve had some of the same male friends since my student years and they’re just weathering life same as the women are. Of course there are middle-aged male assholes, obviously, just as there are middle-aged female ones. Maybe gendered socialisation has an impact on how grumpiness expresses itself in the two sexes?

Spent yesterday afternoon with the men (and women) of my family. Men aged 34, 36, 37, 64 and 74. The men were all charming, polite, fun and a great time was had by all.... Sorry OP, I disagree with you wholeheartedly.

I can’t help wondering what most of them are probably like deep down..the porn they probably watch or the way they may secretly view women etc

This sounds like more of a you problem than a men in their 40s problem. If you're looking at them and thinking, totally without foundation, that they must secretly hate women, I don't think that's their fault, is it? You're speculating about them with no evidence whatsoever and deciding they must be horrible on that basis. You're being paranoid and sexist.

Ugh no, I think young men are the worst. Rude and stinky.

They're ok but I wouldn't bother with another one if this one died

They're not as good as dogs ... (or cats)

The most hideous people I have come across in life have been women.

Never has a man emotionally wounded me “for sport” as it were. Not once has a man manipulated me the same way the women I have come across in my voluntary work do.

The older men (late fifties) I know are much grumpier and boring than the women, so she might have a point.

Me too.
Always loved hanging out with my male friends as very little drama with them but actually now my girlfriends mean so much more to me

I don’t think younger men are nicer or better… they are overwhelmingly driven by an obsession with getting as much sex as possible. I think almost all interaction young men have with women is based around trying to get sex. I wouldn’t trust one as far as I could throw him and tbh I would advise my DD to steer clear of any serious commitment to a man under 25.

But I suppose they are better company because they are more “alive” and as PPs have said they haven’t settled into that middle-aged thing of being grumpy and controlling.

People are people.

Some are nice, some are twats.

Your prejudices say more about yourself than anything else

You counteracted sexism with sexism 😂

But it’s not just about people is it? It’s about how you relate to the opposite sex with all the baggage that goes with that.

Wheb you are in your 20s and most people are single it’s a very different ballgame from settled couples in their 40s. Politics of relationships completely different.

@Thepeopleversuswork

Did you quote the wrong post? Your reply has nothing to do with what I said

I think men become more grumpy and insular as they age. They sort of withdraw into themselves. Obviously that’s a crude generalisation, but true of a lot of men. They become less social, I think.

Actually, a lot depends on education and interests. Ignorant men, who never read, can be unbearable in middle-age. If they were always a bit dull and anti-social, it gets worse. Men like that also cling to their partner.

I think a lot of people take less shit as they get older- men and women

Eh? Most of my friends are male (just because my main hobby is male dominated) and they are lovely. My dad is lovely, my grandfathers were lovely, etc. etc. The men I know who are annoying or rude or whatever were that way before age 25, too!

Lol your quite right I did

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Well it’s been the opposite for me so maybe it’s all just chance?

Although crime statistics certainly back up my experience more than yours.

I'm 52 I have 2 children and have been single for most of their lives! Eldest is 19

I used to think I loved men, but honestly I've been single for a reason, they just are a bit of a pain. And I have 2 boys!

I have many friends and I don't think the married ones are that happy, us single mums are way happier and are sort of envied by the married ones. Who KNEW 🤣

If you're unpleasant you're unpleasant, regardless of sex or age.

If you perceive people differently as you get older perhaps that's about you as much as about them.

I like older men and have in the main dated older men. Younger men are immature and have very little knowledge about the world around them, They also seem to have really annoying addictions to coke, alcohol, etc.
Dp is 12 yrs older than me, calm (Most of the time), worldly, steady, honest, no vices. Never grumpy.
He thinks lots of men his age are miserable, humorless bores.

Reading through this thread and all I can think how wonderful it would read a thread were men would speak this nicely (for the most part) about women.
I think it would be lovely to see men stand up/ just say nice things about women (not about their looks, but as humans).
That would be much needed, I think.

I'd say the opposite. They are better when they've grown up a bit more.