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Sam Smith's New Music Video

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Oioicaptain · 30/01/2023 15:03

There's been criticism in the press over the sexualisation/borderline pornography on the video. I've just watched it. It just seems pretty misogynistic to me. He appears to smash a wine glass onto a woman's head and then it looks as though the women are being urinated upon (although it's not clear ...maybe it was meant to be champagne). What are other people's interpretation/views on it. I may well be mistaken.

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RLScott · 30/01/2023 18:30

LikeTearsInRain · 30/01/2023 17:54

After all the media hype and threads on here. I watched it. Yes the spraying liquid appears to be insinuating piss/golden showers. The somewhat bare bum cheeks were provocative - but only because they weren’t those of big curvy women as you usually see in music videos. But otherwise the rest was in line with what I’ve seen largely female stars do in the past.

Don’t get the fuss and outrage personally beyond the piss part.

Grow up

It’s old hat.

After “Relax” by Frankie Goes to Hollywood a multitude of artists have tried to make themselves ‘edgy’ by releasing ‘shocking’ material. The most contrived and calculated of those that tried to emulate FGTH was Madonna.

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 18:32

@CryInToYourCornflakesNicola oooooops sorry!

WhereYouLeftIt · 30/01/2023 18:33

All the Pat Butcher comments reminded me that Pam St Clement, the actress who played Pat, was one of the founders of Stonewall, back in the day when it campaigned against Section 28 and for LGB rights. Somehow, thinking of her and her work - well, it just diminished Smith that little bit more.

I have now seen the whole video. And it was - dull. Derivative. Unoriginal. The opening bars, as he sings 'Everybody's looking for somebody' - I can't be the only person who hears Shalamar's 'A Night to Remember', can I?

The big pink thing he needed help to move in, being lifted by men in black suits and coloured sashes, riffing on Madonna's 'Material Girl' (which itself played with Marilyn Monroe's 'Blondes Have More Fun').The corset just looked like he'd done his back in, the nipple-covers like he had nipple burn from couch to 5k. Sequinned gloves to stop him scratching (elbow length to stop you removing them). And yes, the entrance hall is lined with gold urinals. Swinging on the chandelier (such a 1970's phrase!) echoing Miley Cyrus's 'Wrecking Ball'.

And frankly, if your video is supposed to be a sex party, I think I'd rather go to Prince's . That was a man who played with the stereotypes whilst also being sex on legs.

Mrsjayy · 30/01/2023 18:33

catgirl1976 · 30/01/2023 18:30

Yeah but they were good. SS isn’t and this has zero credibility. It’s like Stock Aitkin and Waterman got a load of creatives together to mood board edgy. It’s desperate.

This.. FGTH were edgy and shocking S S is just a sleaze .

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 18:33

NanFlanders · 30/01/2023 18:11

There's a lot wrong with that video. Could we all lay off the fat shaming though?

No one's fat shaming. We're moob shaming.

justasking111 · 30/01/2023 18:36

I wonder what Kenny Everett would have thought

purplewolfie · 30/01/2023 18:36

My favourite bit is when they yank their leg up whilst lying on the car at the end. Lovely shot of a bulging gusset and a face like they're forcing out a comedy guff.

Daisymaker · 30/01/2023 18:37

He's getting a bit desperate

DesertIslandCondiment · 30/01/2023 18:37

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 18:33

No one's fat shaming. We're moob shaming.

Moobs with tassles on. Lovely.

Rowthe · 30/01/2023 18:37

DestinysGrandchild · 30/01/2023 16:32

Just watched it. Wish I hadn't. I want to bleach my eyes.

I'm not gonna.
From the stills I've seen I don't think it's a good idea.

The politest thing to say is- hes just not very 'visually appealing'.

I think there's more people laughing at him than applauding him.

Octopusmittens · 30/01/2023 18:37

He’s grim

Mirabai · 30/01/2023 18:38

Nothing I hadn’t seen before - the only offensive thing was smashing a wine glass on a woman.

What really puzzles me is - does he realise how bad he looks in the corset outfit (and his recent silver bodysuit)? I think he thinks he’s Ziggy Stardust. Someone needs to tell him.

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 18:39

The rupaul voiceover is just desperate

DesertIslandCondiment · 30/01/2023 18:40

Daffyd Thomas

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Mirabai · 30/01/2023 18:41

I don’t see Pat Butcher I see Lucian Freud’s paintings of Leigh Bowery. (Leigh’s actual outfits were 100 times more sophisticated than SS).

StayGoldenPonyGirl · 30/01/2023 18:42

Agree with a PP that he doesn't seem to fully buy it himself - he is emulating confidence and barrier breaking but he knows he isn't the first or (anywhere near) the best. Nothing in there that hasn't been done. I don't buy true confidence from his SM - he is trying very hard and hope it pays off for him, but it's not authentic yet.

Trying to think what is left to be ground breaking - someone in a bra and high heels, with a beard, hip-thrusting is old hat. S&M has been done to death. Piss/bukakke has been creeping in, Balenciaga using pedophilic advertising.

God knows what is next, BTS knifing each other live, or Lewis Capaldi pooping and rolling aroud in it.

DixonD · 30/01/2023 18:42

Icannoteven · 30/01/2023 15:39

“I have no idea where you got the idea that it's urine being sprayed, especially as they (inc Sam Smith) open their mouths for it!”

oh my sweet summer child 😂

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 18:44

It's definitely emulating water sports

Hoppinggreen · 30/01/2023 18:45

He looks like a bowl of custard sprinkled with glitter

Nicecow · 30/01/2023 18:47

Is everyone forgetting the rapey Rob Thicke one? I hate music videos and I think women have been degrading themselves on them for years now

iklboo · 30/01/2023 18:47

He's so full of himself there's no room for pudding.

fireflown · 30/01/2023 18:48

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Calling someone it. Classy.

Coconut80 · 30/01/2023 18:49

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Daisymaker · 30/01/2023 18:49

It's him trying to do the alluring looks that makes me giggle

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