Page 10 | Sam Smith's New Music Video

Oioicaptain · 2023-01-30T15:03:40+00:00

There's been criticism in the press over the sexualisation/borderline pornography on the video. I've just watched it. It just seems pretty misogynistic to me. He appears to smash a wine glass onto a woman's head and then it looks as though the women are being urinated upon (although it's not clear ...maybe it was meant to be champagne). What are other people's interpretation/views on it. I may well be mistaken.

Inertiagurl · 30/01/2023 18:56

Sam Smith can’t sing for shit. Which makes all of this hoopla even more tedious. Repulsive. Does anyone of any gender find them attractive?!?! Bleh.

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 19:01

Nicecow · 30/01/2023 18:47

Is everyone forgetting the rapey Rob Thicke one? I hate music videos and I think women have been degrading themselves on them for years now

Yep. He got pulled over the coals for it at least

exLtEveDallas · 30/01/2023 19:01

No interest in watching the video, I heard the song on R1 this morning and was…underwhelmed. It’s so boring. The last one was much better (although I much preferred the ‘rock’ version that was all over TikTok before Sam’s was released).

Now if I wanted to get turned on/shocked/outraged by a music video these days I’d go for something by L’il Nas X who does “sexy gay porn star” much, much better than Sam.

Back in the day I remember being allowed to stay up to watch FGTH’s Relax and Two Tribes which were only played on MTV after midnight.

Sam should concentrate on writing better songs. His videos are unlikely to to make the kids download his music.

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 19:01

@fireflown I don't remember calling Sam Smith 'it'... genuinely can't

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 19:03

Oh I said 'it's definitely emulating water sports' or something but I was referring to the spraying of champagne as the 'it', not Sam... @MNHQ so please reinstate the comment!!!

GreenWheat · 30/01/2023 19:05

Oh dear, he appears to have had a run in with a sausage making machine....
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Greenfairydust · 30/01/2023 19:08

I just watched it to see what all the fuss is about...

the song is the most shocking in this, in term how bad it is! truly bland and instantly forgettable
the video I found quite tedious as well. I don't find it shocking, just a big mess trying a bit too hard to shock.

There is nothing to be really worked up about I would say.

Frankie Goes to Hollywood and Madonna (Erotica album period) did it all, and better, before.

I actually quite liked ''Unholy'' video and song, found it quite catchy but this one, nope.

His weight gain is rather concerning. I did not even recognise him and I hope he manages to address that. I don't think it is ''body shaming'' to say that this is not healthy.

lifeturnsonadime · 30/01/2023 19:10

I don't tend to go on threads about music videos, it is the fact that I find Sam Smiths misogyny disgusting that made me come on this one, but do people tend to go on about fat shaming if we comment on weight gain in female artists? Or is it because Sam is a man that is making people object to it?

Mummyoflittledragon · 30/01/2023 19:12

DisappearingGirl · 30/01/2023 17:11

It's like the late Mel Smith did a parody of a banned Madonna video in the 90's and someone just found it in the archives.

😂😂

Smith and Jones did a parody of Madonna’s Vogue called Brogue

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 19:13

lifeturnsonadime · 30/01/2023 19:10

I don't tend to go on threads about music videos, it is the fact that I find Sam Smiths misogyny disgusting that made me come on this one, but do people tend to go on about fat shaming if we comment on weight gain in female artists? Or is it because Sam is a man that is making people object to it?

He said he's fat because he has a 'feminine body'

Mirabai · 30/01/2023 19:13

Does he think he looks good

This is my question.

What he imagines in his head is not what’s on our screens.

His entourage need the courage to tell him.

lifeturnsonadime · 30/01/2023 19:14

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 19:13

He said he's fat because he has a 'feminine body'

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So he says he's fat, but we can't because that's fat shaming?

Is he saying that all feminine bodies are fat? I mean I know he must hate women (he got rid of the female only category at the Brits) but that's a step too far.

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 19:16

“I have a very feminine body. When I move, when I have sex with men, it’s very feminine... I am feminine in many many ways and I’ve always resented that. I’ve almost been like, ‘no that’s not manly, that’s not this, you’ve got to work out, you’ve got to lose weight, because that’s what men do.’”

But I will never look like that because there’s a bit of a woman in me that won’t allow my body to look like that,” Smith said. “I put on weight in places that women put on weight, and that springboards everything. That’s me looking at myself like...maybe I’m not a man, maybe I’m not a woman, and maybe that’s okay.”

lifeturnsonadime · 30/01/2023 19:18

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 19:16

“I have a very feminine body. When I move, when I have sex with men, it’s very feminine... I am feminine in many many ways and I’ve always resented that. I’ve almost been like, ‘no that’s not manly, that’s not this, you’ve got to work out, you’ve got to lose weight, because that’s what men do.’”

But I will never look like that because there’s a bit of a woman in me that won’t allow my body to look like that,” Smith said. “I put on weight in places that women put on weight, and that springboards everything. That’s me looking at myself like...maybe I’m not a man, maybe I’m not a woman, and maybe that’s okay.”

Jesus fucking christ.

Not a fetish, oh no, nothing to see here.

Mirabai · 30/01/2023 19:19

lifeturnsonadime · 30/01/2023 19:10

I don't tend to go on threads about music videos, it is the fact that I find Sam Smiths misogyny disgusting that made me come on this one, but do people tend to go on about fat shaming if we comment on weight gain in female artists? Or is it because Sam is a man that is making people object to it?

I’ve never seen larger female singer not style themselves really well. Adele never cavorted in an ill-advised corset.

I don’t think anyone cares about his weight, it’s his un-self-aware outfit choices. He looks fine in the pink dress in the beginning.

GreenWheat · 30/01/2023 19:20

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lifeturnsonadime · 30/01/2023 19:21

Mirabai · 30/01/2023 19:19

I’ve never seen larger female singer not style themselves really well. Adele never cavorted in an ill-advised corset.

I don’t think anyone cares about his weight, it’s his un-self-aware outfit choices. He looks fine in the pink dress in the beginning.

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Yes I thought he looked good in the pink thing at the start and in the back cut out jump suit thing.

It was the nipple tassels and corset that didn't really suit his body shape.

justasking111 · 30/01/2023 19:49

Smith and Jones

Follycastle · 30/01/2023 19:51

Whatever your opinions are of them, there are some truly nasty comments on here about their appearance which is just uncalled for.

Do you say the same things about Lizzo? She is widely considered as glamorous despite being overnight.

Sam Smith probably doesn’t give a shit if they aren’t attractive to the vast majority of mumsnet users. They probably attract other queer people. Some will be attracted to their confidence. Just because they’re not your cup of tea doesn’t mean you need to slate them. I mean, why are people talking about how hairy they are? Who gives a flying fuck about the fact they have body hair??

feelingcadoubleledlove · 30/01/2023 19:57

Do you say the same things about Lizzo? She is widely considered as glamorous despite being overnight.

I have separate issues with Lizzo, namely that she shouldn't be glamorising being morbidly obese. Her and the whole #bodypositivity movement.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/01/2023 19:57

GreenWheat · 30/01/2023 19:05

Oh dear, he appears to have had a run in with a sausage making machine....
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Truer words were never spoken.

Mirabai · 30/01/2023 19:58

No nobody says it about Lizzo because a. she’s not a misogynist twonk, b. she has a sense of humour and c. she pulls off her outfits.

HRTQueen · 30/01/2023 20:08

Just smacks of desperation

Sam Smith had an unusual voice has recorded popular songs and doesn’t really need to go down this road of being deliberately shocking

hulahooper2 · 30/01/2023 20:14

He looks ridiculous in it

DisappearingGirl · 30/01/2023 20:23

justasking111 · 30/01/2023 19:49

Smith and Jones

Oh that's hilarious. That's exactly what SS video is like!!