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To feel sorry for Brooklyn Beckham?

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Ridelikethewindypops · 28/01/2023 09:32

I just do feel a bit sorry for him. He's completely out of touch with the real world obviously, but he's so young and so gormless. But seems so determined to be famous in his own right, despite no specialist skill set. I wonder do famous parents ever encourage their children to go to uni and get a real job? Or is that not an option? There are plenty of fulfilling jobs he could do, teaching, nursing, even volunteering ( as he clearly doesn't need the money)
I feel bad for him as he gets mocked online, but he still seems determined to put himself out there.
Money aside, I do feel sorry for the children of spectacularly talented parents, it must cast a long shadow. ( I repeat, money aside...😅)

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diamondpony80 · 29/01/2023 19:03

I don't feel sorry for him, but I think he's being badly advised (if he's getting any advice at all). Surely as the family are friends with Gordon Ramsay they must be able to see how he got to where he is. He spent years studying and working with Michelin starred chefs around the world before he ever made a video teaching cooking.

I'd have more respect for Brooklyn if he disappeared for 10 years, studied and worked hard, and then came back when he has gained some expertise and has something valuable to teach.

Toddlingturtle · 29/01/2023 19:10

faultythighs · 29/01/2023 19:00

He seems like a sweet chap. Someone who would help carry your shopping bags or if you dropped something on the floor, he will help you pick it up. Obviously I've never met him but he does seem quiet pleasant though.

Yes. The younger boys were at school with a few of my friends kids and I have never heard a bad word about any of the children or David and Victoria. Apparently he’s a lot more visible than Victoria but they’re both very pleasant and they’re nice polite kids. And I’ve never seen anything to suggest anything else

stripedsox · 29/01/2023 19:28

I can't believe the bitchiness towards Brooklyn on here. He famous because of his parents, he grew up in a bubble we have no idea what that is like. Of course he's going to act different to Joe Public.
He's not the most intelligent person but then many people are average intelligence. He's someones son and his parents will love him regardless.
Is your son perfect, very intelligent? Not doubt he is/was being bought up in an every day life style.
Leave him alone, you never know if someone will take the piss out of your son for any reason and laugh at him.
I despair at some on the nasty responses on here, it's disgusting and none of you would probably dare say it in real life but bitch on here to see seen to be keeping in with the 'popular view'. It really is like the bloody playground on here sometimes.

Bananamilkshakewirthcream · 29/01/2023 19:31

Has Brooklyn actually claimed to be a chef or said that it's going to be a career? I genuinely don't know much about all of this other than what makes the headlines. I had a look over on his IG.

Because I'm wondering if it's actually him making out he's going to be the next big TV chef or whether it's just the papers making fun of him.

There are plenty of amateurs out there making cooking videos for a bit of fun, as well as people doing fashion videos, DIY, make up tutorials, holiday vlogs.

stripedsox · 29/01/2023 19:36

If he's happy what he's doing let him get on with it. There are a lot of people who must be so jealous of his wealth alone.

T1Dmama · 29/01/2023 20:29

No sympathy no… he’s so privileged he could literally do anything

rubberduckiee · 29/01/2023 22:05

As someone who works with children and young adults, I think the relevant concept here is "growth mindset", or it may be something else?

This cuts across different levels of wealth. Trying different things is fine. But I've seen plenty of people, who can't put hard work in, constantly "big up" their apparent overnight success in their latest new vocation/career/venture. It's insecurity.

DB said BB quit footballing (despite having a huge leg up into Arsenal and other clubs) because: "He said, 'Every time I step on to the field, I know people are saying, This is David Beckham's son,' and if I am not as good as you, then it is not good enough.'" In contrast, his brother Romeo is fine to toil away at some low level football club. Fair enough if BB doesn't like football but there's a visible pattern across his careers. He wants to be at the top immediately.

From direct quotes I've seen, BB talks each new "career" up to the media and sometimes public in self-important ways, as if he's an accomplished master already.

This young man has a need to "launch" all of his sub-standard attempts as finished works at high level: glitzy announcements, monograph book (traditionally the body of work of master of the craft) from someone who dropped out of first year photography school with no efforts to build up a decent portfolio after that, launching a celeb chef cooking show (with his name in the title as said celeb chef) with 62 actual industry professionals who have to teach him basic sandwich recipes behind the scene, etc.

To be fair it could just be his family PR machine. I'm sure other rich celeb children his age (eg actors) with PR machines do the same, but not to such a hubristic or obvious level.

I do think people are being harsh. There's no harm done from one young man's insecurity. He may yet succeed in future if he learns to let go of this "overnight success" mindset.

rubberduckiee · 29/01/2023 22:12

Tbf though I couldn't help laughing at the awful photos and pretentious captions in his photography book. So I understand the amusement.

Just that I don't think he's done anything morally wrong, and many people across different income levels share his fear of being seen to be a failure. Just that they haven't got a PR machine so have to blow their own trumpet.

ellyeth · 30/01/2023 00:11

I am not sure it would be that great to be a child of very rich and powerful people. David Beckham is a great footballer, and achieved that through his own efforts from a young age. His wife was a passable singer but I wonder if her fashion career would have taken off if she had not been a Spice Girl and married to somebody famous.

I do feel some sympathy for Brooklyn and people like him. They are so cossetted and removed from reality, and quite often have no particular goals in their own lives. If it is so great being the child of rich and famous people, why do so many of them turn to drink and drugs and end up having very sad - and sometimes very short - lives?

whumpthereitis · 30/01/2023 00:20

ellyeth · 30/01/2023 00:11

I am not sure it would be that great to be a child of very rich and powerful people. David Beckham is a great footballer, and achieved that through his own efforts from a young age. His wife was a passable singer but I wonder if her fashion career would have taken off if she had not been a Spice Girl and married to somebody famous.

I do feel some sympathy for Brooklyn and people like him. They are so cossetted and removed from reality, and quite often have no particular goals in their own lives. If it is so great being the child of rich and famous people, why do so many of them turn to drink and drugs and end up having very sad - and sometimes very short - lives?

They’re not removed from reality though, no more than you are because of your dissimilar lives. Having a different reality to yours is not the same thing as being removed from reality.

There are plenty of people both to rich and powerful people that don’t have such issues, as well as plenty of people that don’t have rich and powerful parents that do. The former group are far more publicised, however.

StClare101 · 30/01/2023 01:24

I don’t think his parents have done him any favours in the way they have raised him and his siblings.

rubberduckiee · 30/01/2023 06:40

@ellyeth I too feel it's not all it's cracked up to be. However, I don't think they have no particular goals in their own lives. The trouble is their all-consuming goal based on their parents' legacy– fame, global success, and total mastery in their chosen field – is just too big and impossible. It's not something one should sincerely aim for off the bat from the very start.

I'm no celeb child but when I lost access to signficant family wealth in my late 20s and had to become self-sufficient, others in my life thought I had finally found direction and goals... Actually quite the opposite. In the past I had been consumed by meaningful goals with many – too many – emotional, social, etc aspects. Now I found my previous goals "shrink" in a short term and immediate way. The main criteria was earning, and maximising my salary. Second bonus criteria was enjoying my field of work. I became happy to be ordinary, to not overthink and take simple everyday actions which propelled me forward in linear ways.

x2boys · 30/01/2023 08:56

rubberduckiee · 29/01/2023 22:05

As someone who works with children and young adults, I think the relevant concept here is "growth mindset", or it may be something else?

This cuts across different levels of wealth. Trying different things is fine. But I've seen plenty of people, who can't put hard work in, constantly "big up" their apparent overnight success in their latest new vocation/career/venture. It's insecurity.

DB said BB quit footballing (despite having a huge leg up into Arsenal and other clubs) because: "He said, 'Every time I step on to the field, I know people are saying, This is David Beckham's son,' and if I am not as good as you, then it is not good enough.'" In contrast, his brother Romeo is fine to toil away at some low level football club. Fair enough if BB doesn't like football but there's a visible pattern across his careers. He wants to be at the top immediately.

From direct quotes I've seen, BB talks each new "career" up to the media and sometimes public in self-important ways, as if he's an accomplished master already.

This young man has a need to "launch" all of his sub-standard attempts as finished works at high level: glitzy announcements, monograph book (traditionally the body of work of master of the craft) from someone who dropped out of first year photography school with no efforts to build up a decent portfolio after that, launching a celeb chef cooking show (with his name in the title as said celeb chef) with 62 actual industry professionals who have to teach him basic sandwich recipes behind the scene, etc.

To be fair it could just be his family PR machine. I'm sure other rich celeb children his age (eg actors) with PR machines do the same, but not to such a hubristic or obvious level.

I do think people are being harsh. There's no harm done from one young man's insecurity. He may yet succeed in future if he learns to let go of this "overnight success" mindset.

It's the way the Beckham,s spin things,the reason why neither Brooklyn or Romeo,( despite Romeo being loaned to Brentwood B team by the club his Dad part owns) are, not international footballers ,is that they are just not good enough ,there is no shame in that the best players have to be extraordinarily talented ,but the Beckhams can't admit that
they can't just let the kids just be ordinary
one of the boys released a Xmas album which was pretty dire
and I read that,they enrolled Harper into the Italia Conti,stage school when she was five 🙄

Apollonia1 · 30/01/2023 09:14

I lived in Spain at the same time as the Beckhams. Brooklyn's school was next door to my office, so we used to frequently see David B in the local Starbucks. He was always very polite and friendly.

I also feel a bit sorry for Brooklyn. He does come across as pleasant but a bit gormless, and sets himself up for ridicule with his career changes. (All the obvious material benefits aside), it must come with challenges to have all the money in the world, and to try to map out your own career path, with the media watching every (mis)step.

carbuncleonapigsposterior · 30/01/2023 09:54

It didn't have to be like this, The Beckham parents have put their children's lives up for public scrutiny almost from their birth, they even steal private moments such as Harper reading a book, personal birthday cards sent etc. displayed on social media it's all out there. Someone mentioned Gary Barlow up thread when asked by Jonathan Ross "what are they doing" he replied "going to school and working for exams" common sense response, good for him and I don't remember ever seeing his children out in the public eye. The very young can't make an informed choice as to whether they want to be in the public eye and by the time they reach an age where their judgement may kick in that too is probably clouded because it's all they've ever known. I think the parents are irresponsible in not factoring in how such vicarious fame could rebound on their children , Brooklyn in particular is now an object of ridicule, it doesn't take a genius to work out if he were born into an ordinary family he'd be living a pretty basic life. Victoria and David just seem hell bent on carving out some sort of dynasty, ignoring the fact that their offspring may not have any discernible talent or even looks whilst they are all ok in that respect, most kids are, they certainly aren't head turners. Once again, if they didn't have that high profile the public wouldn't make judgements on any of these things. What a shame their lives in many ways have been marred.

TheKeatingFive · 30/01/2023 11:13

What a shame their lives in many ways have been marred.

I don't think there's any real evidence that they have to be honest. They all seem happy enough from what I can see (which admittedly is limited, but there is no indication of any serious problems).

newnamethanks · 30/01/2023 11:50

What's happened to Callum Best, George's son? Couldn't move at one time for pics of his half naked body. Did he finally find a way of living that didn't start with saying "my dad was. . ."? Kid's need more than aspiring to fame.

middler · 08/10/2023 00:25

I think it is pretty mean to pick on a young person like this. He is trying out different things trying to find his place in the world. He would be a sadomasochist to choose to be a teacher frankly, hardly anyone would do that if they did not need the salary these days.
He seems a nice lad, and if he is not academic certain avenues are closed off to him but maybe being a nice person has some currency. He is allowed to try things and drop out of them, you can do that in your 20s.

Universalsnail · 08/10/2023 00:35

I don't feel sorry for him. He is obscenely privileged and if he actually wants to be famous in his own right he could actually learn one of the many skills he's made a crap attempt at and game in that industry would be handed to him on a plate, but he'd be atleast good at it, but he doesn't bother.

middler · 08/10/2023 00:50

I think it must be very hard to have the kind of hunger say David had to be successful in football or anything if you are born into wealth as he has been. We are all driven to make a living but imagine if your parents are worth 100s of millions, it changes things.
I think all the kids come across very well on the documentary and as DB says they could have become little 'shits' and they aren't True words indeed. They all seem to be well mannered pleasant kids, maybe none of them are that academic and so what? The older I get the more I value nice kind people and the cleverer people are the less humble generally I notice.

Having worked with young people some of the academic kids can be insufferable in their arrogance and sense of superiority they develop. You don't see that in David's kids, they have turned out well and that is down to how the Beckhams have parented them.Some of the students I remember are the nice ones not the cleverest ones and David's kids come across like nice kids and honestly that is something he/VB is rightly proud of.

Can we just accept this working-class couple have raised 4 decent kids, made a fortune and seem to still be happy after 25 years together? The kids will all find their way and dropping out of things is not some moral failing. I think picking on the kids is just a way of sniping at them for the only thing you can find to snipe at for some people.

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