Nuts on school trip abroad

[Ellie09ellie]

My daughter is due to go on a school trip abroad in the next week. She is 14. We have just had a message to say no buts on the coach as a child has an airborne allergy. They are also having to ask the hotel to become nut free for the duration of their stay. Is this actually possible or even reasonable given that it's a hotel? My daughter is vegetarian and a lot of her food has nuts in it. Is it unreasonable to expect that after paying quite a bit of money that she gets to eat decent food and not live of chips for a week? I get that it's an allergy that could kill but surely the parents weighed up the issues before sending their child on a trip with 50 other children to a foreign country? Has anyone else been in this position? Thank you

I would like to think this is a reverse but in case it is not….

This is a fantastic opportunity to teach and I still sone great values to your daughter.

Explain that while she may miss eating some foods with nuts it is better to have this extremely mild inconvenience over potentially hospitalising or even killing one of her classmates.

I was partial to Nutella on toast for breakfast for a while and was informed a new co-worker had a severe air borne nut intolerance.
I didn’t whine about it (in fact I never even mentioned it) as it would be completely unreasonable for me to do so.
I simply switched up my breakfast choices. Also I’ve been vegetarian for 20 years and it’s easy to get food without nuts!

How about your child is discriminated against on the grounds of being vegetarian? No? So why should a child with allergies be excluded?

Deffo a tedious reverse

If this isn't a reverse then the OP is nuts!

My daughter is a vegetarian, never eaten nuts and doesn't live on chips. Oddly enough there's a huge range of food available to vegetarians that aren't nut or potatoes centred.

If your daughter's trip is ruined by this then that says more about her as a person than I'd be comfortable admitting as her parent.

Surely there’ll be more than just chips if nuts aren’t available? Even if she does end up eating chips every day for a week, it’s not the end of the world, is it?

Although I wonder whether they’ll get a completely nut free hotel. Even if the hotel takes all nuts off the menu and off display for the week, there’s presumably still the risk of other guests obliviously wandering through reception with their own nuts?

Vegetarian with a nut allergy here. Somehow I have survived all these years without just eating chips! (That’s not to say I don’t love them) YABVVVVVVVVVVU

May be a small hotel/ youth hostel and they have booked the whole thing?

To be fair though there is a massive difference between a coach and a school in sense of airborne allergies.

my school was never nut free for Dsis but when she flies the flight is always nut free.

I don't know how you can have a nut-free hotel.

I think you need to do some research into vegetarian alternatives which don't contain nuts OP. Anyway, nothing that wrong with eating chips and salad for a week.

You are making a false equivalence.

Nuts or no, your child is at liberty to enjoy the trip. Without the trip being a nut free environment the other child can't go at all.

Are you suggesting that this other child be socially excluded for every situation where your child wants to scoff some peanuts rather than some baked flavoured chickpeas as an alternative? Or eat toast with jam/lemon curd rather than peanut butter?

I'm not sure you appreciate how deadly these allergies can be.

Even with an epi pen, people who suffer an attack are simply buying time to get to a hospital. It's not a case of administer the injection and all is well.

Like others I hope this is an irritating reverse.

I completely agree, I would rather kill people than go a few days without some salted peanuts.

Jesus. As a parent of a child with a nut allergy you’re not just being unreasonably you’re being utterly abhorrent. Are you suggesting the child doesn’t go on the trip so your DC can eat nuts? Where does that stop, shall they stop going to school too? Or maybe just not go outdoors.

also on the hotel, Europe is miles ahead of UK with this stuff.

A nut free trip - I think that rules you out as a volunteer.

My granddaughter is allergic to nuts and seafood. Her class went to France and she had to watch what she ate. That child must have severe allergic reaction to be nut free even in the hotel. I'm sure you don't want to be the parent having to explain why your daughter couldn't go nuts free and that child went in anaphylactic shock and they die.

YABU there are a lot of vegetarian foods that do not contain nuts (or chips).

I'm astounded that people exist who would prioritise their desire for nuts over someone's potentially life threatening allergy.

Bloody hell....can you be any more selfish?

Yes, Yabu. HTH

If this isn't a reverse or a joke then you are a really shitty person. Perhaps you should reflect on your parenting skills to have raised a child with such a limited diet that she cant cope without nuts for a few days 🙄

This has to be a piss take, no one can be that selfish surely!!

This has to be a joke.

A lot of educational establishments (at the request actually of a campaign some years ago by parents of children with nut allergies) have changed their policy to NOT ban nuts and nut products for the simple reason that children with this kind of allergy must never assume that there are no nuts anywhere near.

That said, this school has decided it's adopting a no nut policy. I doubt very much they'd be able to impose this on a hotel in a different country though. Although most restaurants these days ask about allergies before serving you.

Obviously the OP is being U at expecting the other child to have to risk a serious reaction because hers wants nuts.

This cannot be real 😂 yes YABU and a complete lunatic.

YABVU she can eat veggie food without eating nuts. Why should your kid's dietary choice be prioritised over another kid's life threatening allergy? Selfish and ridiculous.
As a parent of a child with an anaphylactic, (but not airborne) egg-allergy, life is hard enough for children who live with these allergies every single day. They will be hyper alert, hyper aware of everything they eat and probably really self-conscious about being away with their peers, with such a severe health condition.
Do you really want to make the air they breathe dangerous too, just because your kid likes eating nuts? She will survive a school trip without them.

When I was at school, one kid that wanted to go on a foreign trip had a serious allergy, none of the teachers would volunteer to be responsible for the kid whilst abroad, and school asked his parents to provide somebody to accompany him, and they said no its the schools job.
School said the kid couldn't go and then the parent got the story into the local paper.
Final result = entire trip was cancelled for all kids, nobody went abroad.

I've been a vegetarian all my life and can categorically state that there are a wealth of nutritious vegetarian dishes that don't contain nuts.