Beauty students asked to strip in front of trans rapist at college AFTER sex attacks

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My AIBU title taken from this news article:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/beauty-students-asked-strip-front-29063499

This whole 'Isla Bryson' cluster-fuck has me angrier than I can describe.

These girls had to accept and trust this vile individual in their beauty course on the basis of Isla's claim to be a woman, nothing more. They even tolerated abuse from Isla.

They were not told this individual was facing charges of rape. The college claim they didn't know either. Because 'Isla' said he was a women, these young women felt they had no choice but to strip to virtually naked in front of him. Failing to do so would be 'bigoted'.

But he also happens to be a serial rapist. Young women, some possibly aged 16 or so, stripping to virtually naked while a serial rapist watches. If this was my daughter I would be going mad.

Where is the safeguarding?

AIBU to feel viscerally angry with all our politicians about this?

Well big up to anyone pushing back on it. If we dont' stand up to it now we never will. Head on over to the Feminism Forum to have a look for ways of doing that.

Wrapped up in a lot of gaslighting verbiage.

You are absolutely NOT being unreasonable.

The whole thing is a major safeguarding failure.

And, entirely as predicted, the whole ideology enables & protects the absolute worst men at the expense of women & children.

Sexual predators look for access, opportunity and impunity - the really successful ones are the ones who’ve found the last of those three. Create a sacred caste and this will inevitably happen.

I can’t believe how much of Women’s rights, and every single thing we’ve ever, collectively, learned about safeguarding, has been thrown out of the window in favour of nonsensical mantras like TWAW.

YANBU

I hope it is the end of her career.

Male waxing was a thing. Often known as “back, sack & crack”. I’ve always assumed the beauticians who did it were male.

You’d need special training to wax testicles, though - the skin is very thin, sensitive & often loose, so
easily injured.

It is really interesting as when challenged on the realities of biological sex, the trans activists often refer people with intersex conditions despite this group of people not being transgender and most who have commented rejecting their inclusion in the transgender debate.

I'm hoping that out of this mess comes a reasonable way forwards that allows people to live in the identity they are comfortable with but in way that does not ride roughshod over sex-based rights or safeguarding.

There are a few of us that have been really hit with the kids. Non affirming parents almost ostracised and painted as baddies in contrast with the outstanding and brave sparking affirmation model spouses by the despicable Mermaids.

if you got kids head for advice to Transgendertrend. Gender critical dad, Lilly Maynard blogs, they can sign post you to many other parents groups that have organised to put a brake to this ideology being spread at school.

LGB Alliance can also help if your teen is starting to feel their sexuality might not fit with the heterosexual pattern.

and remember your child is much more than trans, make the other bits the important ones until she or he lives a little more and can find out his or her real feelings about all this.

Except ... the average person just living their life has no idea about all of this. No idea they voted against those amendments, no idea of what it all means.

In addition, the SNP get away with a lot: there will still even be women who are aware and angry about this who will STILL vote SNP because 'independence'. So the SNP tried things other parties think twice about.

Finally - possibly most significant - if you have wedded yourselves to trans lobby groups who drum into your head that trans women ARE women based on self-id, then limiting access to a GRC requires you to say 'in these circumstances, a trans woman is not a women because they committed rape ...' The lobby groups do not tolerate any equivocation on the trans women are women line. This means even if a man is a rapist, he is still a trans women if he says so. And that's how they voted.

Sadly this just a crack in the dam more horrors are happening all the time.

Please have a look on the feminist boards to see what's happening.

If I say that a dog's tail is a leg, how many legs does that dog have?

Four. Saying that a tail is a leg does not make it so.

I follow a lot of animal stuff online. It's strangely comforting how matter of fact it all is. there aren't many stallions that think they're mares, or bulls that think they can be milked. But when it comes to people, actual biology is ignored.

Hopefully women will remember this when Nicola is up for election and vote the shower out.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64438457

There are now calls to prevent another, violent transwoman from being transferred to a woman's prison. According to the BBC (not the most reliable source), the transfer has already been approved.

It's an interesting juxtaposition, the use of females pronouns in the article, and the photograph of the transgender prisoner with their ripped shirt, showing their bare chest.

A photograph of a biological woman in that state of undress, would not be published.

Wow, I hadn't heard of this person before. Terrifying.

BTW the quotes I've seen recently relating to risk assessment re Isla Bryson/Adam Graham all seemed to discuss the preference of Isla/Adam, and the risk to him/her. Is there any assessment of the risk to other inmates?

@Empowermenomore no child is trans. Trans has not been defined as anything coherent. What they might be is confused.

Oi, BBC!

"She" did not smear shit over walls (and all the other stuff). Using female pronouns in such an instance is a disgrace.

Is there any assessment of the risk to other inmates?

It seems not. Nor the risk to staff either.

I don’t really understand why we treat men lying about this as any different to men lying about other important facts.

Would you let someone in your house who turned up dressed as an EON employee but who you knew wasn’t? Would you stop for someone lying about being a policeman, or let your children be looked after by someone lying about having a childminding background.

Of course no-one would, so why not run a mile from any man pretending to be a woman?

Something, I think, that's worth spelling out, m&s and most other shops would let Isla and Tiffany (and any other bloke who said they were trans) into their women's changing rooms.

This.

Come and swim with them. Where they're the only men in the room, where its a situation specifically created for vulnerable women, and if you react negatively to anything they do, at best you'll be shamed for being transphobic. Talk about your rape to them at the crisis group. Have them do your intimate medical procedure. Hand your little girl to them for a nice weekend trip away with the Brownies.

This is why it is so important to update the Equality Act to specify that Sex means biological sex and not legal sex. Please go to Petitions thread and add your name.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard

There's no need to disclose anything. Anyone with the use of their eyes or ears will have been perfectly aware that he was male. The issue is that the ridiculous pretence continued even when students would be in a state of undress. Adults too cowardly or craven, students either afraid of disciplinary action/social ostracisation, or just brainwashed by the propaganda machine which has been operating over the last few years ("be kind", "people are who they say they are", "TWAW" etc.) to say "no, I'm not comfortable"