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Bloody parking charge

203 replies

RoseWrites · 26/01/2023 14:41

I went to a car park and my 4 year old went batshit on the way in. I quickly parked and got her out and calmed her down. I looked at the car, and one wheel was on the white line. Tbh I couldn't be bothered with putting DD back and reparking so I just dashed into the shop. Came out 5 minutes later and found a ticket on my car for £100.
I got home and appealed it but got a standard letter back saying appeal has been denied, but with no rationale. I assume they send the same wording to everyone. There's no way of contacting them.
My options are pay for the fine now or appeal to the ombudsman but run the risk of paying more if that's denied.
If it's any use, it's Excel parking. And the car park is in cramlington.
Would you appeal or just (begrudgingly) pay?

OP posts:
WindscreenWipe · 27/01/2023 14:14

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:10

What specifically suggests she would lose in court or even get taken to court?

Right nothing but speculation. I've given my view, OP can do as she pleases.

  1. That OP did it
  2. That she knew she did
  3. That OP knew she was breaking the rules
  4. That she admitted she did it
  5. That she received the ticket
  6. That her appealed was denied
On that alone, she’s lost the case. There’s nothing to support a defence. Given that every single fact given indicates she will have to pay and none of them indicate that she won’t have to pay, the likelihood is that she will have to pay.
RunnerBum · 27/01/2023 14:16

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:13

You think my post is rude and not post I was replying to? Yeah that makes sense

Yes.

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:17

WindscreenWipe · 27/01/2023 14:14

  1. That OP did it
  2. That she knew she did
  3. That OP knew she was breaking the rules
  4. That she admitted she did it
  5. That she received the ticket
  6. That her appealed was denied
On that alone, she’s lost the case. There’s nothing to support a defence. Given that every single fact given indicates she will have to pay and none of them indicate that she won’t have to pay, the likelihood is that she will have to pay.

None of that makes fine enforceable. I still wouldnt pay.

She can do as she pleases, it's not my money being spent

BreviloquentBastard · 27/01/2023 14:18

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 12:06

Loool sigh

I'm sorry but I'm laughing so hard at your comments, you sound like my 15 year old daughter. Maybe toddle on back to Instagram or Reddit and leave the grown ups to talk about adult responsibilities, yeah?

WindscreenWipe · 27/01/2023 14:18

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:17

None of that makes fine enforceable. I still wouldnt pay.

She can do as she pleases, it's not my money being spent

Clearly you recognise it’s not your money being spent because you’re advising OP to piss her money away on a dispute she almost certainly won’t win.

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:19

WindscreenWipe · 27/01/2023 14:18

Clearly you recognise it’s not your money being spent because you’re advising OP to piss her money away on a dispute she almost certainly won’t win.

I disagree. Hence my view

RunnerBum · 27/01/2023 14:20

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:12

Multiple fines totalling several hundred more, so it was worth ECP taking a gamble and bringing me to court.

So, your case was different from the OP and yet you’re insisting it’ll “definitely” (your word) have the same outcome?

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:21

BreviloquentBastard · 27/01/2023 14:18

I'm sorry but I'm laughing so hard at your comments, you sound like my 15 year old daughter. Maybe toddle on back to Instagram or Reddit and leave the grown ups to talk about adult responsibilities, yeah?

🥱

Sqqueeeeeeee · 27/01/2023 14:21

RunnerBum · 27/01/2023 14:16

Yes.

Yep

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:23

RunnerBum · 27/01/2023 14:20

So, your case was different from the OP and yet you’re insisting it’ll “definitely” (your word) have the same outcome?

Indeed

Hoppinggreen · 27/01/2023 14:23

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:07

Most companies aren't going to spend hundreds on legal fees to pursue £100.

But it would be OP that paid the legal fees.

Chickenly · 27/01/2023 14:23

Sorry OP, hope you got the advice you were looking for. I think the thread has somewhat derailed 🙄

RunnerBum · 27/01/2023 14:25

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:23

Indeed

And that doesn’t seem ridiculous to you?

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:25

RunnerBum · 27/01/2023 14:25

And that doesn’t seem ridiculous to you?

No

JauntyJinty · 27/01/2023 14:27

Chickenly · 27/01/2023 14:23

Sorry OP, hope you got the advice you were looking for. I think the thread has somewhat derailed 🙄

I think it's just touching the rails, so I'm not sure it's enforceable

Patineur · 27/01/2023 14:28

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 13:09

Listing your accolades doesn't reinforce your point or qualification in this area, you could be a supreme court judge for all I care.

There is absolutely nothing incorrect by advising that this claim can be disputed.

On precisely what grounds can it be disputed?

Catnary · 27/01/2023 14:33

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:12

Multiple fines totalling several hundred more, so it was worth ECP taking a gamble and bringing me to court.

Wow. You have been a very special kind of unlucky to have been unjustly ticketed that many times when you didn’t break any rules…my heart goes out to you.

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:35

Patineur · 27/01/2023 14:28

On precisely what grounds can it be disputed?

There could literally be multiple, precisely what would naturally depend on OP.

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:36

Catnary · 27/01/2023 14:33

Wow. You have been a very special kind of unlucky to have been unjustly ticketed that many times when you didn’t break any rules…my heart goes out to you.

It's okay, thankfully the court agreed

Patineur · 27/01/2023 14:37

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:10

What specifically suggests she would lose in court or even get taken to court?

Right nothing but speculation. I've given my view, OP can do as she pleases.

The fact that she specifically admits to parking against the rules?

Catspyjamas17 · 27/01/2023 14:38

What does it say they have fined you for?

TheBestTeam · 27/01/2023 14:43

@BabyOnBoard90
I'm ignoring the arguing but I'm genuinely curious why your parking fines were dismissed? I presume you know the reason. There are times when you can be fairly confident of successfully getting a private parking charge dismissed such as it being issued incorrectly but surely you can understand that parking outside the lines isn't going to be a good enough reason to get a parking charge dismissed.

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:43

Patineur · 27/01/2023 14:37

The fact that she specifically admits to parking against the rules?

Doesn't make it enforceable. You can admit to owning a car and parking, and still have grounds to dispute a parking charge by private company.

Patineur · 27/01/2023 14:44

BabyOnBoard90 · 27/01/2023 14:35

There could literally be multiple, precisely what would naturally depend on OP.

Well, yes. It could be, for example, that OP is a diplomat and has diplomatic immunity. Or the parking warden was Lord Lucan and had no authority to issue a ticket. Or the government has, unknown to us, passed a new law making the issuing of parking fines unenforceable.

In the meantime, in the real world, if OP had some sort of ground for defending we can perhaps assume she might have mentioned it?

Catspyjamas17 · 27/01/2023 14:44

Hopefully the advice on this link will help:

www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/private-parking-tickets/

Also there is a forum with lots of helpful people and templates.

forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/parking-tickets-fines-parking