I am scared of being nuked

[FamousPrincess]

Just as Putin went a bit quiet and the UK, USA, France and a few ex-eastern block countries started ramping up the rehtrotic, sabre rattling of more weapons. We no find ourselves IE the UK and the others bullying the germans into sending a few tanks that will not make a big difference or any difference but is seen as a red line by Putin.

Don't forget that Ukraine is claimed to have more tanks and armoured personnel carriers that the start of the war as they claim to have captured hundreds of abandoned tanks. So why do they need more, they actually don't. Giving these German taksn you need to train them, the parts will be difficult, repairs will be difficult the ammunition will be difficult, so why take the risk?

Ukriane had a pro-eastern leader before the current one. When Ukraine had their elections, American senetors were canvassing for the current pro-western man. Imagine a vote on Scotland's independence and we had Russians canvasing there

In the east of the Ukraine,, they were as bad as the others before the invasion by Putin.

Read this

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11661589/PETER-HITCHENS-Sending-Ukraine-tanks-turn-Europe-one-big-radioactive-graveyard.html#newcomment

The possibility of the UK being tested out with a nuke off our cost on on an isolated part on the UK is real and present becuse of the stance we are taking and we and others are giving her what it needs to defend themselves but to push them into the Crimea is a step to far at the risk of nuclear war

AIBU to think that sending a few tanks will tip Putin over the edge as I'm worried a lot.

Sorry, I forgot the OP was from someone with anxiety. I wouldn't let it consume you, we've been much closer to nuclear war in the past.

Why do so many posters think worrying about it is going to make any difference?

He's been threatening to nuke us for years now, there's only so long you can give a shit before you can't be bothered worrying anymore.

Hands up… who here grew up being told that your school desk would totally save you from a nuclear bomb and your church basement was all you needed to survive the fallout? 🙋‍♀️ Now who here realized one day that those two things are so stupid it’s crazy. and if that’s the best anyone has to offer you might as well just accept your demise and move on🙋‍♀️

Seriously, it’s freeing to not buy into the disaster porn that is lurking beyond every corner.

I’m one….watched the “Duck and Cover” reel in school many a time. I was maybe 9 or 10 when I realised it was to make it easier to identify any remains if the thermonuclear blast didn’t level the building. Each child would be neatly located under their assigned school desk.

I'm not worried about it 🙄. I'm just stating the facts.

You might as well worry about being killed by a falling meteorite

We’re just in time for the green comet do do us in.

I’m sorry to tell you OP, but Putin didn’t go at all quiet. It’s just not on the news every day.

He’s still murdering Ukrainians every day - men, women and children - and knocking out their infrastructure so that life is much less comfortable for those who aren’t dying. And that’s not even going into how the Russians are treating those currently under occupation and how they treat prisoners of war etc.

Yes there are other countries that have been invaded and yes I do care about them too. The additional thing about Ukrainian though is it’s far from the first neighbouring country Putin’s Russian has invaded and won’t be the last if he’s not stopped at this point.

And specifically re nukes, if Putin is crazy enough to use nukes, he’s too crazy to be negotiated with. Bullies famously also back down in the face of strength, not submission.

Yes, more so recently but never as blunt as lat year
I fear a misunderstanding during serially heightened tensions

Breaking news
www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11671333/Doomsday-clock-moves-90-seconds-midnight-closest-76-years-ago.html

He may have no option in order to saves its own skin
The man fears for its life but does not give a fuck about anyone else inc the thousands of young Russians he is forced to the frontline.

The big worry is, it is only Putin that says yes or no to a launch of a nuke strike

If you have convinced yourself that’s the case, what exactly do you expect anybody on here to do to persuade you otherwise?

Possibly demand that the iditos that claim to be our leaders f off to the front line and either fight or make peace. Trust me they will opt for peace lonf before they leave their bunkers.

Have you read the link. I tried to but i could not as it is scary.

IMO, the UK is at the forefront of Putins rage and Boris is not helping.

How precisely do you think we would achieve this?

We currently cannot convince our great leaders to pay nurses more despite strikes, or to sort out the issue with the enegery companies putting up their prices whilst increasing their enormous profits

Just how exactly do you plan on forcing them to the front line.

Meanwhile Putin is a dictator and people who cross him have a habit of dying. What's your great plan for getting him to the front line when no one can get close to him?

It's all very well having grand plans but it would be more useful if they were even remotely achievable

If he’s going to do it to save his skin, he might do it regardless of what the west do. His skin could well be on borrow time either way.

His supposed big ally, China, is saying very firmly “no nukes” so it may well be the last thing that’ll save his skin.

I get that you’re worried that if he feels he’s losing he’ll resort to nukes. And he could do - but then he’ll definitely get nuked back and will go up in smoke with the rest of us.

But if he feels he’s winning, or if god forbid he does win, he’ll be eying up somewhere else next - and if it’s a member of NATO then there’ll be big trouble. Or even if it’s not, we have the same dance as this all over again.

Can't say it bothers me - it will be a quick ending if it happens. When it comes to matters of a Russian nature, I'm more scared for people such as Alexei Navalny. I highly doubt he'll get the luxury of a merciful death...

Please, you are not the first to say this. Just look up about dropping nuclear bombs, it was the Americans that did it with what is deemed as a 'battlefield' sized detonation. Millilions dies later from the fallout. If you think you are going to be impacted at that moment, even if nukes a 1000 times the size the Americans droppen on Jappenses people were dropped on the UK, not everyone will be wipped out instantly and thne millimons if not billions will die later

Our lot seem to be busy ramping up the rethrotic - why not sit down and negotiate and say, move back to Crimea and then discuss Crimea? One the war stopps it will stop and then hopefully within the next year or 2 Putin goes.

Your posts are becoming increasingly irrational.

, it was the Americans that did it with what is deemed as a 'battlefield' sized detonation.

I'm not going to minimise the consequences of events of those two events but if you are going to make claims such as:

Millilions dies later from the fallout.

Then we need a citation please.

Millions would die from the starvation and civil unrest not so much the fallout, that would be a much longer term issue and thats just in the "civilized" west.

My advice is focus on what you can do, not what you can't. You can't stop Putin because he won't stop until he has restored the USSR borders. Give in on Ukraine, he'll attack places like Poland and eastern Germany. All concessions do is move the battlefield closer.

What you can do is best prepare for a nuclear attack. Clearly, a full on assault with many nuclear weapons is unsurvivable for this country - we can be bombed into oblivion, no problem, if Russia decides it. But a single nuclear bomb on London or (preferably, because it's further away from me) Birmingham wouldn't necessarily mean the end of everything. It could be recovered from. The important thing is to have a stockpile of food, drinking water and essential medication. Dig a fallout shelter in your garden if possible, if not, identify the place in your home that is most protected from the outside. Basements are best, attics are worst, but there will always be a place that is best in a home, even if it's not that great.

That way, when the attack comes, you will be able to survive for a few weeks and give yourself the best chance possible. During those first few days many will die because they don't have enough clean water. Many more will venture outside to find it and be contaminated with radioactive fallout. You need to stay indoors.

If possible get yourself some iodene tablets ahead of time too. These can help combat some effects of radiation exposure.

I don't doubt that but that's wasn't what I was commenting on or asking about.

I watched a documentary over the weekend, on iPlayer I think, about the Holocaust and the lead up to WW2. My god the bloody build up was really quite similar to what’s happening now. The countries refusing to get involved hoping it would sort itself. The aggressor moving into areas covered by treaties that didn’t allow war machinery. The propaganda, the constant provocation until finally the UK and France had to get involved and then the USA finally acted.

To see history repeating itself in this way is very sobering. I think we are now in the war, as are all NATO countries. It’s going to be for Putin to decide whether he wants to bomb a NATO country and make that official.