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I am scared of being nuked

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FamousPrincess · 22/01/2023 09:29

Just as Putin went a bit quiet and the UK, USA, France and a few ex-eastern block countries started ramping up the rehtrotic, sabre rattling of more weapons. We no find ourselves IE the UK and the others bullying the germans into sending a few tanks that will not make a big difference or any difference but is seen as a red line by Putin.

Don't forget that Ukraine is claimed to have more tanks and armoured personnel carriers that the start of the war as they claim to have captured hundreds of abandoned tanks. So why do they need more, they actually don't. Giving these German taksn you need to train them, the parts will be difficult, repairs will be difficult the ammunition will be difficult, so why take the risk?

Ukriane had a pro-eastern leader before the current one. When Ukraine had their elections, American senetors were canvassing for the current pro-western man. Imagine a vote on Scotland's independence and we had Russians canvasing there

In the east of the Ukraine,, they were as bad as the others before the invasion by Putin.

Read this

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11661589/PETER-HITCHENS-Sending-Ukraine-tanks-turn-Europe-one-big-radioactive-graveyard.html#newcomment

The possibility of the UK being tested out with a nuke off our cost on on an isolated part on the UK is real and present becuse of the stance we are taking and we and others are giving her what it needs to defend themselves but to push them into the Crimea is a step to far at the risk of nuclear war

AIBU to think that sending a few tanks will tip Putin over the edge as I'm worried a lot.

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Onnabugeisha · 22/01/2023 10:04

@MissWired
The best thing that could happen to this country at the minute is a war as most of the freeloading parasites would fuck straight off, from the bottom and the top.

Said by someone who has never seen war or been in a war. In a war, the “parasites” tend to flourish on the opportunities such chaos provide. They don’t “fuck off”. The ones at the top make billions, the ones at the bottom loot, rape, murder and make more modest fortunes.

Lydiala · 22/01/2023 10:04

Finally, Putin saying that something is a ‘red line’ doesn’t mean that it actually is. He has said that plenty of things were red lines throughout the conflict - but when they were crossed he did nothing. He doesn’t want to rule over a barren nuclear wasteland any more than anyone else.

Oblomov22 · 22/01/2023 10:04

Please see your GP re your chronic anxiety and inability to see reason over such stuff. FGS.

Untitledsquatboulder · 22/01/2023 10:05

Cuppasoupmonster · 22/01/2023 09:54

It depends. If it’s fought on home soil then yes. If it involved overseas operation then it’s healthy men who suffer.

I think you'll find that the young healthy men get to die either way.

Lydiala · 22/01/2023 10:05

Just as Putin went a bit quiet

He hasn’t gone quiet in the slightest - he bombed an apartment building in Dnipro just days ago, killing 40 people.

dreamingbohemian · 22/01/2023 10:06

You do know the UK has nukes right?

If Russia nukes us, we nuke them back. So the odds of this happening are about zero.

I miss the Cold War when even 5 year olds understood nuclear deterrence.

Orangepolentacake · 22/01/2023 10:08

Hello Vladimir

FamousPrincess · 22/01/2023 10:08

BabyOnBoard90 · 22/01/2023 09:40

No need to be scared, it will be a quick end

Sadly not in many cases and just like the movies etc, people will espcape the inial blasts etc and then suffer big time

I fear that he/putin will target UK and rightly so, the USA will start to think, we cannot hit every nuke site in Russia as many larger nukes on ships, submarines and Russianis has the lagest world land mass - so lets wait and see if Putin fires a sendnd. thrid missile

Worse than the above, we have all read about it, EG a MISUNDERSTANDING trigger nuclear attacks

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FamousPrincess · 22/01/2023 10:11

dreamingbohemian · 22/01/2023 10:06

You do know the UK has nukes right?

If Russia nukes us, we nuke them back. So the odds of this happening are about zero.

I miss the Cold War when even 5 year olds understood nuclear deterrence.

You do know Russian has more than a thrid of the land mass and Putin is a coward and sits in bunkers half a mile underground and they have about a hundred of these. You also know Putin is ill and possibly dying soon do you really believe he gives a shit about anyone other than his prestige?

You think if Puti cared even a bit he would not send Russia young men to be alughtered in their tens of thousands?

Putin is not a rational man, so us having nukes a few of them is nothing to him

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lobsterkiller · 22/01/2023 10:12

I'm sorry it's making you (and probably a load more people anxious.)

I take only a certain amount of notice and take the sites like The Mail with a bucket of salt.

If it happens, it happens. My plan is to have a joint and meet the end.

CalistoNoSolo · 22/01/2023 10:12

Are you a russian bot OP? Post like yours just try and stir up fear. Putin is a barbarian in control of a terrorist failing state. Of course the free world should stand up to him.

wlapsj · 22/01/2023 10:14

You can do literally nothing about it, what's the point in spending your life worrying about something you can't control.

CalistoNoSolo · 22/01/2023 10:14

And you seem to be saying that the UK deserves to be nuked by Putin. Strange stance there.

FamousPrincess · 22/01/2023 10:14

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 22/01/2023 09:50

It’s correct to say that sending these tanks is no longer about defence. It would significantly increase the prospect of retaliation and thankfully, presumably because they’re a hell of a lot closer, Germany are hesitant to take the step. It’s depressing that this country being in such a state means people don’t seem that interested or concerned about the prospect of a mad man deciding to use the ultimate weapon at his disposal, though I can see why they feel that way.

Easier for our lot to say that in the UK as we are not on the door step.

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DrMarciaFieldstone · 22/01/2023 10:16

Lydiala · 22/01/2023 10:05

Just as Putin went a bit quiet

He hasn’t gone quiet in the slightest - he bombed an apartment building in Dnipro just days ago, killing 40 people.

Err, yeah this.

As if the UK can base international responses to war and terror on if it gives some people back home anxiety. WTF.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 22/01/2023 10:16

Article by Peter Hitchens, the Mail's professional doomster. Name a topic, any topic, and Hitchens can write you an article of why it's a really bad idea and society is going to hell unless it listens to him.

Tukmgru · 22/01/2023 10:17

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Whammyyammy · 22/01/2023 10:22

No point worrying, if Russia launches nukes, the west will launch nukes back... game over for everyone, and Putile knows that.

FamousPrincess · 22/01/2023 10:24

Whammyyammy · 22/01/2023 10:22

No point worrying, if Russia launches nukes, the west will launch nukes back... game over for everyone, and Putile knows that.

I doubt it.

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wordler · 22/01/2023 10:26

CalistoNoSolo · 22/01/2023 10:12

Are you a russian bot OP? Post like yours just try and stir up fear. Putin is a barbarian in control of a terrorist failing state. Of course the free world should stand up to him.

I think you are probably guessing correctly.

thirdtimeluckyorwhat · 22/01/2023 10:26

Why are you worrying about things you can't do anything about. Live your life

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 22/01/2023 10:27

Mutually Assured Destruction means that it will never happen and if did we'd all be dead @FamousPrincess

FamousPrincess · 22/01/2023 10:27

Lydiala · 22/01/2023 10:04

Finally, Putin saying that something is a ‘red line’ doesn’t mean that it actually is. He has said that plenty of things were red lines throughout the conflict - but when they were crossed he did nothing. He doesn’t want to rule over a barren nuclear wasteland any more than anyone else.

You have a valid point, I agree, so hopefully its blusters on all sides. Thanks.

Sadly, putin one side and the west testing out their new weapons in Ukraine, its a typical thing between the east and the west where another country and their people are used as pawns in a political game.

I'm guessing the majoirty of russians do not want war its Putin but there were many Russian speaking people in the east that felt they were not treated well but I guess that can be applied to other countries as well, EG, Libya, Syria, Kashmir, Iran, etc, etc

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ClaireEclair · 22/01/2023 10:28

Bestcatmum · 22/01/2023 09:31

He's capable of anything. I'm so weary of it all now and sick of the endless shit at work (NHS) and the mess the country is in all I can think about us being nuked is I won't have to get up and go to work that day.

Same. Which is so sad isn’t it?