I am scared of being nuked

[FamousPrincess]

Just as Putin went a bit quiet and the UK, USA, France and a few ex-eastern block countries started ramping up the rehtrotic, sabre rattling of more weapons. We no find ourselves IE the UK and the others bullying the germans into sending a few tanks that will not make a big difference or any difference but is seen as a red line by Putin.

Don't forget that Ukraine is claimed to have more tanks and armoured personnel carriers that the start of the war as they claim to have captured hundreds of abandoned tanks. So why do they need more, they actually don't. Giving these German taksn you need to train them, the parts will be difficult, repairs will be difficult the ammunition will be difficult, so why take the risk?

Ukriane had a pro-eastern leader before the current one. When Ukraine had their elections, American senetors were canvassing for the current pro-western man. Imagine a vote on Scotland's independence and we had Russians canvasing there

In the east of the Ukraine,, they were as bad as the others before the invasion by Putin.

Read this

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11661589/PETER-HITCHENS-Sending-Ukraine-tanks-turn-Europe-one-big-radioactive-graveyard.html#newcomment

The possibility of the UK being tested out with a nuke off our cost on on an isolated part on the UK is real and present becuse of the stance we are taking and we and others are giving her what it needs to defend themselves but to push them into the Crimea is a step to far at the risk of nuclear war

AIBU to think that sending a few tanks will tip Putin over the edge as I'm worried a lot.

Anxiety about this goes away if you avoid the news.
Early on in the war, I was so scared I just thought it would be easier to top myself.
Sounds trite, but keep calm and carry on.

Most sensible ost here, thank you
I did the same intially and it worked
But recently, recent days, re the tanks etc, its everywhere and i listen to chat radio etc.
Thank you. x

Making you fearful about being nuked is how they justify spending your taxes on this. But of a double insult. How else would big defence get their hands on public money and big oil justify their prices.

Banks had their payday in 2008. Big Pharma had theirs in 2020. Now it’s big defence’s turn. While big oil also gets in on the act. After all, they have been patiently waiting their turn since Iraq in 2003. Remember that, all those dangerous weapons of mass destruction? That didn’t exist, but trillions were spend on defence anyway.

Not a conspiracy theory. More a glaringly obvious fact slapping the public in the face everyday, yet they refuse to accept it.

Facts are facts whether they show the uk government in a good light or a bad light

You seem very confused OP, it might be best for your mental health to step away from the news for a bit

Hello again. Sadly I can see what is happening before most other people can and Putins deranged mouthpiece second in command is now sending out direct threats just now

Even if it is sabre rattling, a misunderstanding etc can happen. Just becuse the USA and France etc are not talking re their nukes does not mean that they are not on very heighed alerts.

Not sure how to stop this other than send Putin etc to front line and let them take some of the bullets etc they would soon change their minds

www.express.co.uk/news/world/1725067/Russia-war-west-Ukraine-Sergei-Lavrov-Germany-tank-Leopard-UK-challenger-2

Sadly I can see what is happening before most other people can

Don't worry OP, that magical ability is easily banished by remembering to wear your tin foil hat.

@sst1234
After all, they have been patiently waiting their turn since Iraq in 2003. Remember that, all those dangerous weapons of mass destruction? That didn’t exist, but trillions were spend on defence anyway.

Saddam had WMDs. You are confusing all WMDs with nuclear WMDs.

Intelligence indicated he had nuclear weapons, but they could not find them after the invasion. Although the Allies did find evidence of nuclear weapon manufacturing and many Iraqis alleged the nuclear warheads were smuggled over the border into Iran. It’s not inconceivable because Saddam had all his Air Force buried in 2003 to protect the aircraft. But yes, no nuclear weapons were found in Iraq.

However, WMDs include chemical weapons which we know for a fact they had as Saddam used chemical weapons on the Kurds numerous times and the unfolding genocide was one of the reasons for the invasion.

oh right. Iraq was invaded to protect the Kurds. Just like all the other genocides prevented in places like Rwanda, Myanmar, Bosnia. Oh sorry, I forgot, we never did anything about those, did we? Probably because it wasn’t lucrative enough for big defence.

I was in Bosnia. And there is a difference between doing nothing for no one and doing some thing for some people. Tell me, do you donate to no charities because you cannot donate to all charities? Do you not recycle because you can’t afford an electric car?

I’ve no time for such absolutism.

I've read this a few times now

Unfortunately I cant understand a word.

What are you trying to say?

You know what's happening before everyone else? Wow

@FamousPrincess why do you think you have some foresight that the rest of don’t? Including the Government, military and intelligence services?

I live north of Manchester and if a bomb fell I'll stand in my front garden. Wouldn't want to live in a post nuclear world.

Yeah, if it’s in The Express😂

First of all OP, Dont worry, Go and have a nice cup of tea. Dont worry about something you cant change.

Im always suprised by the amount of people who think getting "nuked" would be a big flash and a quick end. Youve seen to many hollywood movies.

This is about testing and trying to fragment ( maybe litteraly 😆) The EU and Nato member states, Germany are continuing to disapoint on a number of fronts.

The press are best used only for entertainment purposes.

The good news is manchester is not on the list of targets. The bad news, their nukes are accurate as the news they feed their own people.

Thank you, but, misunderstanding etc and as I said the other day, Putin cant back down as if it does, his own will kill him for being weak just like he has had killed those that were once close to him according to reports

Putin does not care most world leaders dont care about ordinary people but putin more so, EG sent tens of thousands of his young men to be slaughtered just to make him look good

Said this many times, send Putin and those that support him along with our laders and those that support them in government, send them to the front lines and trust me, this lot would make peace straight away.

And we very old ones, in our 70s , remember the real Cold War in the 1960s, I recall going to school during the Cuban Missile Crisis knowing there was a real fear we would not be going home. During the Northern Ireland troubles, working in Germany, we had to check under our cars every morning, I would get in, switch on, move it a few metres before I let the children in. Were we worried? A bit but we didn't allow it to rule or ruin our lives, that wouold have meant the bad lads had won.

Oh yes, let's load even more onto the NHS, everybody has this 'anxiety' thing, no-one's ever just a bit worried. Reading these pages I often think that the best thing many could do would be to stay in bed, close the curtains, don't read or watch anything then no 'anxiety'

Are you quite young OP? I was terrified of this sort of thing forty years ago when we were being told at school every day that nuclear war was a near certainty and that we should prepare for it (Protect And Survive, anyone?).

It was very unlikely then and I think equally unlikely now, even with the Russia-Ukraine war (that has actually been going on for hundreds of years in one form or another) now on our doorstep. I’m more worried about the general state of this country due to Brexit and possible Scottish independence than anything Putin might do.

You need to get some professional help for your anxiety, as soon as possible.

It was far more likely to happen after the fall of the USSR when there were all the various states splitting off, some with terrorist dictators in charge and having access to and ability to deploy parts of the former USSR nuclear arsenal. That was a tricky time period imho.

Clearly OP the only answer is to dig out some of the great nihilistic songs from the 80’s and embrace the doom. Maybe people will lighten up when this too passes (or we’ll be dead and it won’t matter). I’ll get you started…

Then you may want to move on to a little Frankie Goes to Hollywood Two Tribes is a good one, but the video is dated now. (Think someone will do a reboot?).

Here are some more…www.stereogum.com/1978060/38-essential-80s-songs-about-nuclear-anxiety/lists/ultimate-playlist/

No, for most it wouldn't.

That’s not helpful 🙄.

Why do so many posters think it will all end in a flash of light. Have you ever seen what happens when there is a nuclear bomb? The majority of people in the UK would survive unless they nuke the shit out of us (preferable). I'd want a direct hit on my house because survival after a nuclear bomb would be hellish. And as a pp said it wouldn't be living, it would be surviving and then likely a prolonged miserable death over a few years.