Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think the Rishi seatbelt nonsense is just tedious?

228 replies

Cuppasoupmonster · 20/01/2023 22:39

Not a Tory voter, never have been.

But seriously all this over the fact he wasn’t wearing a seatbelt? Anyone would think he’d been exposed as a sex offender or a user of Class A drugs 🙄

OP posts:
Boomboom22 · 20/01/2023 23:25

I'm not sure he did break the law as when travelling under protection it can be safer not to.

Irrelevant but taxi drivers also don't have to wear seatbelts when driving passengers

GrapeHyacinth · 20/01/2023 23:26

Cuppasoupmonster · 20/01/2023 22:59

Brown noser? If it was Keir Starmer this would all be dubbed a ‘whipped up frenzy by the right wing media’

Unusual comment for someone who claims not to be a tory.

echt · 20/01/2023 23:26

Cuppasoupmonster · 20/01/2023 22:59

Brown noser? If it was Keir Starmer this would all be dubbed a ‘whipped up frenzy by the right wing media’

Except that it never happened so you don't know what the reaction would be.
Have you considered speculating what would happened had Jermey Corbyn been the transgressor?

echt · 20/01/2023 23:27

Terrible typos Blush

LoveCillian · 20/01/2023 23:27

Really couldn’t give a fuck

Cuppasoupmonster · 20/01/2023 23:41

echt · 20/01/2023 23:26

Except that it never happened so you don't know what the reaction would be.
Have you considered speculating what would happened had Jermey Corbyn been the transgressor?

Well I said the same thing when they were trying to string up Keir for having a takeaway in covid times to be fair

OP posts:
Cuppasoupmonster · 20/01/2023 23:42

GrapeHyacinth · 20/01/2023 23:26

Unusual comment for someone who claims not to be a tory.

Not if you’re capable of objective thinking.

OP posts:
Bigminnie1 · 20/01/2023 23:44

Cuppasoupmonster · 20/01/2023 22:45

It’s one of those ‘crimes’ that is so incredibly minor that virtually everyone has done it in the past couple of months and if this was a politician they happened to like and support, they would quickly switch their view to that as well.

Really? I don't know anyone who would be stupid enough not to wear a seatbelt.

FontSnob · 20/01/2023 23:44

Op, have you acknowledged the fact that it wasn’t just for a second and was him deliberately being filmed for a media soundbite? Like others have said, he just comes across as a fecking idiot in doing so. Surely you can see the issue there?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 20/01/2023 23:44

The PM should abide by the laws of the country. That’s just basic surely?

Also agree about the selfishness of not wearing one in the back.

I do think it was really stupid though to film it without thinking “oh hang on, I’d better not be filmed breaking the law” - surely someone should have pointed it out to him? Plus also for his own safety it’s pretty daft.

Bigminnie1 · 20/01/2023 23:44

JudgeRinderonTinder · 20/01/2023 22:49

I think the issue is the fact he’s the PM and should abide by the laws of the country he is in charge of. Just smacks of entitlement not to, when I’m sure he’d be right on board with the average Joe being punished for it. The fact people can’t see that is ridiculous.

Totally agree.

Ohgoodyanotherone · 20/01/2023 23:45

Cuppasoupmonster · 20/01/2023 22:45

It’s one of those ‘crimes’ that is so incredibly minor that virtually everyone has done it in the past couple of months and if this was a politician they happened to like and support, they would quickly switch their view to that as well.

I haven't. Back in the day, before seatbelts were compulsory....in fact there were no rear seatbelts....I was in the back seat of a car that was involved in a major accident that resulted in my being in a coma for 3 weeks. I now a facial disfigurement and minor brain injury.as a result. Rear seatbelt rules are there for a reason...but IU guess some people are too stupid to work that out for themselves hey OP.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 20/01/2023 23:45

Also, how do we know he doesn’t do it “on the regular”?

Ohgoodyanotherone · 20/01/2023 23:45

*I guess

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 20/01/2023 23:47

I haven’t done it “in the last month” as a poster suggested but then don’t travel in the back of cars if I can possibly help it - but if I was in a taxi I’d wear a seat belt as it’s the law, it’s safer for me and safer for the driver if I’m behind them.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 20/01/2023 23:48

Boomboom22 · 20/01/2023 23:25

I'm not sure he did break the law as when travelling under protection it can be safer not to.

Irrelevant but taxi drivers also don't have to wear seatbelts when driving passengers

These are the exemptions to the seat belt law. Travelling under protection isn't one of them

When you don't need to wear a seat belt
You don’t need to wear a seat belt if you’re:

a driver who is reversing, or supervising a learner driver who is reversing
in a vehicle being used for police, fire and rescue services
a passenger in a trade vehicle and you’re investigating a fault
driving a goods vehicle on deliveries that is travelling no more than 50 metres between stops
a licensed taxi driver who is ‘plying for hire’ or carrying passengers
Medical exemptions
Your doctor may say you don’t have to wear a seat belt for a medical reason. They’ll give you a ‘Certificate of Exemption from Compulsory Seat Belt Wearing’. You must:

keep this in your vehicle
show it to the police if you’re stopped

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 20/01/2023 23:51

That list of exemptions is interesting. Why taxi drivers?

RichardMarxisinnocent · 20/01/2023 23:55

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 20/01/2023 23:51

That list of exemptions is interesting. Why taxi drivers?

Apparently it's because of the risk of a passenger using the seatbelt to try to strangle the driver.

OvaHere · 20/01/2023 23:55

I never drive without a seatbelt and won't drive others unless they buckle up.

It may seem like a minor crime when you arrive from A to B safely but it's not minor when a collision does occur.

I knew someone years ago who flew through the windscreen of a van due to no seatbelt. Amazingly he survived but was very injured and in hospital a long time.

I realise crashes are often fatal seatbelt or not but please give yourself and your passengers the best odds possible.

Also being rich and high profile won't save you in an accident. Has he never heard of Princess Diana?

LakeTiticaca · 20/01/2023 23:57

Lancashire Police have posted a rather smug statement regarding a 42 year old man from London being fined for not wearing a seat belt in a moving vehicle.
Shame they aren't so keen on sorting out the nightly racing of young men in high powered cars that speed through our town on a nightly basis. They know it Goe on and they know who they are and yet it continues unabated

Mammyloveswine · 20/01/2023 23:57

JudgeRinderonTinder · 20/01/2023 22:49

I think the issue is the fact he’s the PM and should abide by the laws of the country he is in charge of. Just smacks of entitlement not to, when I’m sure he’d be right on board with the average Joe being punished for it. The fact people can’t see that is ridiculous.

This

Talapia · 20/01/2023 23:59

He's meant to run the country but he's too fucking stupid to know he has to wear a seatbelt in a moving car.

Yeah, it does bother me. Yet again we have to old Tory 'oversight': again.

avamiah · 20/01/2023 23:59

OvaHere · 20/01/2023 23:55

I never drive without a seatbelt and won't drive others unless they buckle up.

It may seem like a minor crime when you arrive from A to B safely but it's not minor when a collision does occur.

I knew someone years ago who flew through the windscreen of a van due to no seatbelt. Amazingly he survived but was very injured and in hospital a long time.

I realise crashes are often fatal seatbelt or not but please give yourself and your passengers the best odds possible.

Also being rich and high profile won't save you in an accident. Has he never heard of Princess Diana?

Absolutely spot on, Princess Diana may of well survived if she had her seat belt on.
Her Bodyguard did .

Iam4eels · 21/01/2023 00:00

The Conservative party, in a House of Commons debate on toughening up seatbelt laws, I November 2022:

"The Department for Transport (DfT) knows that in 2021, in 30% of all car occupant fatalities recorded, seat belts were not worn. This is unacceptably high, and we have been considering options to tackle this including the potential merits of introducing penalty points"

The Conservative party, today, in reaction to their leader being caught not wearing a seatbelt:

"LancsPolice do an amazing job, but I’m sure their time is better spent investigating serious crime".

So which is it? Is not wearing a seatbelt a serious matter that needs to be clamped down on or is it a waste of time clamping down on it? They can't have it both ways and they can't have it as one rule for them and another for us. If he was Rishi Sunak, minimum wage office clerk, clocked with no seat belt on his way to work then the excuse of "it was a momentary lapse of judgement" wouldn't get him out of being issued with a fine.

As a reminder, this is his second FPN making him the first ever MP to be an acknowledged law breaker both as Chancellor and as PM. He doesn't give a shit about the law because rules are for the masses not the masters.

WalkthisWayUK · 21/01/2023 00:01

Cuppasoupmonster · 20/01/2023 22:45

It’s one of those ‘crimes’ that is so incredibly minor that virtually everyone has done it in the past couple of months and if this was a politician they happened to like and support, they would quickly switch their view to that as well.

What? No everyone hasn’t not put their seatbelt on in the last couple of months! Most people wear a seatbelt for every single journey of their lives.

It also puts the other passengers in the car at risk.

Swipe left for the next trending thread