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To think the Rishi seatbelt nonsense is just tedious?

228 replies

Cuppasoupmonster · 20/01/2023 22:39

Not a Tory voter, never have been.

But seriously all this over the fact he wasn’t wearing a seatbelt? Anyone would think he’d been exposed as a sex offender or a user of Class A drugs 🙄

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JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 22/01/2023 10:03

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 20/01/2023 22:50

Why would any sane person take their seat belt off, in a moving car?

Try saying that on a thread about the death of Princess Diana and watch the carnage!

At least Rishi's driver was sober and not engaged in a chase 🙄

Shows that some people think they are above petty rules. Though I think the fuss being made about this is entirely designed to distract us from the strikes, the legislation to restrict striking and protesting and the NHS crisis.

Nannyfannybanny · 22/01/2023 10:06

I always wore a seatbelt long before they were compulsory. Wouldn't be here now otherwise. I've worked in the ED 5 years, anyone not wearing one,go work a shift in there!!! Not a serious offence, comparable with using a mobile phone driving,or any other stupid thing, injection of insulin, while driving!!!

Alexandra2001 · 22/01/2023 10:08

I'd like a competent person running the country, not some twat who doesn't realise not wearing a seatbelt is an offence, its stupid to film & post it on SM & more importantly the people around him not realising either.

Anyway the news has moved on, its all about Zahawi, Johnson, the BBC (the UK's TASS) and dodgy loan guarantees... and finally TUC saying ministers are a bunch fcuking liars and the TOries want these strikes to continue.... correct.

Orangepolentacake · 22/01/2023 10:10

Cuppasoupmonster · 20/01/2023 22:51

It is about as criminal as overlapping a double yellow by 5cm or overstaying your parking ticket by a few minutes. An ‘offence’ on paper but so trivial it’s nothing to get worked up about. I doubt he flung the belt off singing IM FREEEE TO DO WHAT I WANTTTTT ANY OLD TIME he probably just unbuckled for a minute to do something and got papped

Omg I now have the image on my head 🤣

Clavinova · 22/01/2023 12:40

Haven't heard Starmer say anything about the seatbelt

Probably keeping his head down - Starmer potentially broke the law in 2020 by leaving the scene of a road accident before the police arrived (a cyclist was injured in a collision with Starmer's car). As usual, Starmer's account didn't quite marry up with the truth - he didn't speak with (on-duty) Transport Police at the crash scene and they contacted him before he contacted them. Most of us plebs would have stayed put;

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8884757/British-Transport-Police-no-record-speaking-Keir-Starmer-scene-crash-cyclist.html

Labour's Shadow Home Secretary (Yvette Cooper) can't say much either - her husband (former Minister and Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls) doesn't pay attention to the rules;
2014 - It is the fourth time in recent years that Balls has landed himself in trouble behind the wheel

www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/16/ed-balls-prosecution-hitting-parked-car-shadow-chancellor

Harriet Harman (former Leader, Deputy Leader and Chair of the Labour Party, former Solicitor General and Minister for Justice - and currently Chair of the Committee investigating Boris Johnson) has a string of motoring offences to her name;

Her record
January 2003 Banned from driving for seven days and fined £400 after admitting speeding at 99mph on the M4 near Swindon.
September 2007 Pleaded guilty by post to a speeding offence. She was fined £60 and given three penalty points for exceeding a temporary speed limit in Suffolk.
January 2010 Fined £350 and given three penalty points after pleading guilty to driving without due care and attention.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/jan/08/harriet-harman-motoring-fiine

Not forgetting of course - Lord Kinnock and Lord Prescott:

www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/apr/26/politics.ukcrime1
www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jun/08/lord-john-prescott-driving-ban-speeding?CMP=gu_com

TheHauntedPencilCase
they consistently approach rules like they don't apply

Indeed.

longwayoff · 22/01/2023 13:16

Oh, it's Labour's fault. If course it is. You seem to have missed the opportunity to mention Keir's beer and to blame Jeremy Corbyn for everything. Most unlike you.

Blossomtoes · 22/01/2023 13:19

longwayoff · 22/01/2023 13:16

Oh, it's Labour's fault. If course it is. You seem to have missed the opportunity to mention Keir's beer and to blame Jeremy Corbyn for everything. Most unlike you.

It’s Clav ffs. I swear we could have an entire Tory government full of puppy torturers and it would somehow be Labour’s fault.

longwayoff · 22/01/2023 13:28

This bunch could sell tickets for public dismemberings and not be out of pocket.
Sickening collection of grasping chancers preparing to car boot any remaining national assets.

beguilingeyes · 22/01/2023 14:06

Remind me of when Keir Starmer gave his mistress £100,000 odd of public money while his wife was having cancer treatment. Or put the son of a KGB agent in the House of Lords.

Oh no...that would be Johnson.

Eleganz · 22/01/2023 14:13

Well the guy also got fined for partying during lockdown as well.

He's an unpopular prime minister who has somehow managed to become prime minister despite not even being able to win a vote of conservative party members let alone a general election. As such, he is under lots of scrutiny and this is what that is like. It is politics and Sunak is hardly even getting what he deserves here for someone who has no mandate to govern.

Alexandra2001 · 22/01/2023 14:17

@Clavinova Scrapping the barrel there... but good try...

However, if you are so thick you take off your seat belt and film something for a Tweet you then go and post..... really?

If the examples you gave had filmed themselves speeding and posted it on twitter, there may have been a comparison... but once again, as is the case in most of your whataboutery style posts... there isn't.

Clavinova · 22/01/2023 17:54

longwayoff
You seem to have missed the opportunity to mention Keir's beer and to blame Jeremy Corbyn for everything. Most unlike you

Not really - I stuck to motoring offences. Can Jeremy Corbyn drive? I've only ever seen him riding a bicycle.

Eleganz
Well the guy also got fined for partying during lockdown as well

Corbyn escaped a fine despite 'partying' -

metro.co.uk/2020/10/02/jeremy-corbyn-wont-be-fined-for-breaking-rule-of-six-at-dinner-party-13360046/

Starmer tried to cover up how many people he was having a beer and curry with (it was 16, not 6) -

order-order.com/2022/05/16/starmer-revises-count-up-from-6-to-15-attendees-at-beergate/

longwayoff · 22/01/2023 17:59

I recall that Keir with beer was filmed by the son of James Delingpole, right wing Spectator contributor, who was trepassing uninvited, armed with a camera and snooping through windows like a low rent journalist. Not quite the same as filming yourself for social media is it ?

ThinWomansBrain · 22/01/2023 18:01

on the plus side, think how many millions have saved compared to running a "use your seatbelt" campaign.

countrygirl99 · 22/01/2023 18:02

Clavinova · 22/01/2023 17:54

longwayoff
You seem to have missed the opportunity to mention Keir's beer and to blame Jeremy Corbyn for everything. Most unlike you

Not really - I stuck to motoring offences. Can Jeremy Corbyn drive? I've only ever seen him riding a bicycle.

Eleganz
Well the guy also got fined for partying during lockdown as well

Corbyn escaped a fine despite 'partying' -

metro.co.uk/2020/10/02/jeremy-corbyn-wont-be-fined-for-breaking-rule-of-six-at-dinner-party-13360046/

Starmer tried to cover up how many people he was having a beer and curry with (it was 16, not 6) -

order-order.com/2022/05/16/starmer-revises-count-up-from-6-to-15-attendees-at-beergate/

The police investigated and found no offence had been committed. Unlike Johnson and Sunak who were both issued with FPNs. Try harder next time.

lljkk · 22/01/2023 18:02

It doesn't make sense to me that Sunak got fined in PartyGate, the party people literally entered room where he was working and Sunak left 5 minutes later.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 22/01/2023 18:22

lljkk · 22/01/2023 18:02

It doesn't make sense to me that Sunak got fined in PartyGate, the party people literally entered room where he was working and Sunak left 5 minutes later.

I felt sorry for him then but now I see he is as stupid, slimy, sneaky and deceitful as the rest of them.

Clavinova · 22/01/2023 19:31

countrygirl99
The police investigated and found no offence had been committed

Corbyn?

‘I understand that remaining at the dinner was a breach of the rule of six. I apologise for my mistake.’
Scotland Yard confirmed the MP will not be fined, saying police will not retrospectively enforce coronavirus laws.
A spokesman said police did not issue fines retrospectively to allow people the chance to listen to and follow advice.

cakeorwine · 22/01/2023 20:00

Bingo Grin

cakeorwine · 22/01/2023 20:02

What I find really amusing is the fact that Johnson was at a party where someone took a photo of them breaking the law.

And then Sunak videoed himself breaking the law and put it on social media.

longwayoff · 22/01/2023 20:05

An apology from a politician admitting an error? Makes a pleasant change from the Johnson 'two fingers to the lot of you' school of media management. Well done JC.

blubberyboo · 22/01/2023 20:08

It’s all deflection to take our minds off the important stuff.

yanbu

jgw1 · 22/01/2023 20:10

Ggggggoooo · 22/01/2023 09:06

The media. Tired of seeing the same story over and over again. I just couldn’t give a toss

Which other laws could you not give a toss about the Prime Minister breaking?
Does the same apply to other people as well?
@Ggggggoooo

countrygirl99 · 22/01/2023 20:18

Clavinova · 22/01/2023 19:31

countrygirl99
The police investigated and found no offence had been committed

Corbyn?

‘I understand that remaining at the dinner was a breach of the rule of six. I apologise for my mistake.’
Scotland Yard confirmed the MP will not be fined, saying police will not retrospectively enforce coronavirus laws.
A spokesman said police did not issue fines retrospectively to allow people the chance to listen to and follow advice.

Really. No fines retrospectively. Tell that to Johnson and Sunak. Clearly Corbyn actions can't have been in the same league.

JudgeJ · 22/01/2023 21:43

sleepyhead32 · 20/01/2023 22:51

Just another case of do as I say not as I do isn't it. Not a biggie but still something the rest of us mere mortals are supposed to do as standard. The guy is a dick, like all Tories

Obviously it is far more serious because he's a Tory, like the drinks parties held during lockdown, the Labour ones were totally acceptable!