Family comes first surely ?

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4 years ago my friend started a cleaning business. My mum was looking for a cleaner so I gave her my friends number . After 18 months or so she started to clean for my mums ndn too.

My mum has always had the opinion that if you want something you work for it so isn’t very forthcoming with helping out when I’ve struggled but my youngest is now in full time school so I wanted to work but I’ve not been able to for years due to some medical issues . I said to my mum would she consider letting me be her cleaner and as she has that kind of work ethic opinion mentioned above she was happy to do this as she would be helping me out but I wouldn’t be doing nothing in return.

she gave her cleaner (my friend) notice and I’ve now been cleaning for her a few weeks . Her ndn is one of her best friends as they’ve lived there for over 30 years and she had been talking to her and ndn has now given notice and asked me will i clean for her too (she’s aware of my medical issues and knows this will make throngs easier for me I’ve known her years and it was her suggestion)

My friend (well I’m not sure if she is anymore) has accused me of poaching her clients !!! But I’m not . They had given notice and yes I asked my mum but i didn’t approach her ndn. She’s says I shouldn’t have asked my mum but it’s my mum and surely family comes first especially given my circumstances 😞

On the gov U.K. website it states the list of changes you must notify PIP about . None of them say about starting or ending employment

You need to declare any new changes.

You did poach the clients so I think you need to own that but that’s how it goes sometimes.

Employment isn’t on the gov U.K. list

I doubt she's your friend anymore. Is she?
She will probably never trust you again.

If the only benefit you claim is PIP, because you have a working partner, it's not benefit fraud to work. However if you don't have a working partner you will surely be getting an income replacement benefit as well. You might still be able to get that and work as long as your hours and earnings are below a certain limit, but you should check the rules and disclose it.
You should also revisit your PIP application to make certain nothing you said when claiming is at odds with doing what is abeit it light, manual work, and prepare yourself for the hassle of a PIP review. Because your disgruntled friend will very possibly report you.

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No I don’t think she is my friend anymore

Your mother fine but you did poach her other client 100%.

You need to declare any changes to what you said previously.

if working, cleaning, contradicts what you said before then you need to declare it.

For example someone who said they need assistance to cook and prepare food would, obviously, have to declare if they got a job as a chef as it contradicts what they’ve said in their claim.

From the website:

"the help you need or your condition changes"

Being able to start work when you haven't been working due to your condition could be considered as a change in the condition. And cleaning for someone else when you're getting financial help to assist you with being able to do everyday tasks most certainly would need to be considered as possibly pointing to a condition improving.

‘If I hadn’t have done this’ suggests you do know and acknowledged you have poached her clients.

The neighbour hasn’t don’t this off her own back. Possibly you mum mentions your problems.

I can see why your mum and neighbour have done what they have done. But I also get her being pissed off.

You did poach her clients. Not surprised your friend isn't pleased.

She only had the OPs mother as a client because of OP, maybe she should be grateful for the time she had the client. As to NDN she entitled to choose who cleans her house. A business doesn't own it's clients.

On my application I didn’t have to put anything about housework as I don’t struggle really I just can’t do ironing or cooking unsupervised which I don’t do at my mums .
my mum and ndn are both retired so I can change the days too if I’ve been unwell so it’s not a set day due to my conditions

Is it worth the friendship?
If you didn't value the friendship then you haven't lost much I suppose.

What you did was shitty and underhand. Nepotism as its finest. You should be ashamed of yourself quite frankly

It definitely isn’t on the list of you look on the gov U.K. if they knocked I would just tell them that and show them the screenshot so I don’t need to write a letter

I'm not surprised tbh..
I wouldn't be surprised though if you get a knock on the door further down the line from DWP/HMRC with a benefits officer on your doorstep.
Your ex friend is a scorned woman and we all know how dangerous they can be.

Then you should be fine. You still have to declare it though. And also declare the income, even if you don't have to pay tax on this. I can't really understand how a grown adult can't comprehend that.

Because she’s earned all of her other clients and relies on them.

you’ve not earned anything and the fact she’s got other clients is irrelevant. What you’ve done is so wrong imo.

You still need to declare it. Cause I'm sure you get pip when you struggle to do day to day stuff and you appear to be able to do cleaning so yes you have to declare it

OMG you really seem to have a comprehension problem. I can 100% tell you that you have to tell them because it's a potential indicator of a change in condition. I have more than one family member claiming PIP and they absolutely had to do it, and were reassessed as a result. Neither lost their PIP. If what you say is true about not claiming for housework help, then why would you risk losing your PIP by not declaring it?

Your mum's NDN is not your family though? As far as your (former) friend is concerned, you started with your mum, then the NDN, she is probably thinking that you will pick off more her clients whenever you can?