That schools should not be telling children they are born in the wrong bodies?

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This is so alarming now - just how many children do we think are born in the wrong bodies?

Is this not now just science fiction?

YABU - Rainbows are magic

YANBU - It's brainwashing. No child is born in the wrong body and schools must be held to account.

This is exactly why I put my kids in a Catholic school. Because they don’t go in for any of this nonsense so I feel it’s a safer place.

Gender identity disorder
Gender dysphoria
Who they are inside

What do these things all mean? That the persons body doesn't match what they feel inside?

So you are saying they are born in the wrong body.

And so is the school if they are socially transitioning the child.

Referring to a child in their chosen gender identity is surely better than turning them off school and adding to their mental distress, even if you think it's a passing phase/have reservations about trans stuff.

Schools are there to engage and teach kids, if little Julie wants to be called Johnny, who gives a shit so long as she does her geography homework?

The kids that ask school to keep it secret must feel like their parents wouldn't accept them as who they are, and that is dangerous

What does 'who they are?' mean in this context? Do you think your male child is really a girl or do you mean accept that your child identifies as trans? If so what does trans mean?

Sorry for all the questions but I think it is quite dangerous to tell a child they are the opposite sex (if that is what you are doing).

Schools are there to engage and teach kids, if little Julie wants to be called Johnny, who gives a shit so long as she does her geography homework

That is assuming that social transition is benign, we know it isn't. This is set out in the Cass Review.

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2022/03/26/the-cass-review-into-gender-identity-services/

Yeah, that really is quite a stretch!

Transitioning more socially acceptable to bigoted families than being gay? Sure it is.

Which other dysmorphias should teachers ignore so long as homework is completed?

A transgender person is a person whose gender identity does not correspond with the sex registered for them at birth.

A transgender person is a person whose gender identity does not correspond with the sex registered for them at birth

A gender identity is a belief though, not something concrete or measurable. Not everyone feels they have one just like not everyone has a religious faith.

By gender identity - do you mean stereotypes?

I would want them to redirect confidentiality for a child who is Gillick competent, as they absolutely should. Children have the right to see a counsellor without parents knowing etc.

Being autistic doesn’t mean that someone lacks capacity, either.

The kids that ask school to keep it secret must feel like their parents wouldn't accept them as who they are, and that is dangerous

But what expertise does the school have to assess a child's feeling they are trans and predict the reaction from the family? Zero is the answer.

Unless abuse is suspected, major issues shouldn't be kept from parents. This is a huge red flag from a safeguarding pov.

How do you define gender identity?

Being autistic doesn’t mean that someone lacks capacity, either.

Of course it doesn't.

Being autistic and a girl does mean you are less likely to conform to gender stereotypes.

You are also more vulnerable.

What other secrets would you be OK with schools keeping? How far is your line? I thought adults agreeing to keep children's secrets was rightly frowned upon. How come as soon as the word trans is mentioned, normal safeguarding rules go out of the window?
If my child is likely to be suicidal, do I have the right to know?
If not, surely there's some safeguarding issue here.
If a child goes on to kill themselves and it's found out that a teacher or the school knew they were suicidal and kept it secret, how do you think that would be viewed? Could they be sued? Are teachers willing to risk that to keep secrets from parents?

YANBU. My 9 year DD came home saying this. I put her straight immediately and said "no one is born in the wrong body and not to listen to anyone who says otherwise"

It is awful the amount of utter drivel being pedalled to our young children atm.

I think it's something only extra special and interesting people have. So if you don't know what it means you're a boring old bigot.

I don't see the harm in schools allowing children to be called by the name and gender they identify with at that time?

Dr Cass saw the harm, and so do Transgender Trend. The links are upthread.

And it's not about "allowing" anything - it's about insisting that every teacher and every other child uses the new name etc, and deliberately hiding it from the parents. Meanwhile the parents have no chance to understand, to learn, to adapt, to even know what their child is thinking and doing.

Defaulting to secrecy over pronouns reinforces the message that children cannot trust their parents about gender.

It doesn't necessarily mean they will transition fully, but if they did would it not be better for the children to know their parent loves them and supports them no matter what?

Parents don't always support our children by giving them what they want right away.

The kids that ask school to keep it secret must feel like their parents wouldn't accept them as who they are, and that is dangerous

"Accept them as they are" is begging rather a big question - what are they? A loving parent can accept that their child is questioning their gender without agreeing that they need social transition right now.

Saying you're a female I think

I don't have a male child anymore. She is a woman. She is now in her 20s and thriving. I never once told her she was the opposite sex, she said that to me. I supported her, I listened, I went to gp appointments, therapy sessions, clinic appointments when she asked me too. I wasn't shocked when she told me. But I was worried and anxious. I trusted the professionals. There were a lot of appointments. They didn't give her blockers for years while she was having counselling.
I am not saying to tell a child they are the opposite sex, you are right, that is just as dangerous. But if a child tells you they feel like they are the opposite sex, and want to be called a different name and pronouns, and you tell them it's stupid, wrong, or you don't believe them, that can cause harm to them. Do you not want your kids to be themselves, and trust you enough to tell you anything without you judging them? If any of my kids felt they had to keep a secret like this from me because they didn't feel I would be supportive or force them to be someone they weren't I would be devastated.

I know.

It might make me a boring old bigot but i think it's really important to be clear what we are talking about here because some children, many of them autistic, gay or otherwise vulnerable, may harm their healthy bodies as a result of being told they have one that doesn't match their sex.

The whole thing confuses me and I get scared ill say the wrong thing