Dogs capable of sending us to hospital/the morgue need to be banned

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Yet another serious dog attack.

uknip.co.uk/Breaking/News/breaking/woman-rushed-to-hospital-after-attack-by-dog-in-the-street/?fbclid=IwAR3bVa7T5KdsbfMlHZqg8CjSCFIkSVJtGYjB8iAZJ5_2C2Rv4tomNMO1ask

YANBU - ban these dogs (bully breeds, huskies, Dobermans etc)
YABU - aw, poor pibbles, must have been provoked

We need national registration. Its interesting how the government seems to want to regulate every part of our lives, but when it comes to this it backs down.

Dogs that have been proved to bite should be forced to be muzzled.

Not sure that anyone would disagree with this.

Love bully breeds, they are the loveliest kindest dogs. Just ask the professionals not the media. !!!!!

Even if you love them, you wouldn't stand a chance if one decided to attack you and they are responsible for a large percentage of fatal dog attacks.

Dog owners are very anti licence and anti compulsory training, anti anything that might restrict their freedoms in any way at all. actually you are very wrong @pissssedofff, responsible dog owners do support licensing.

Thanks Caramac, as a cat person, it’s hard not to question myself when everyone around me talked about him being fine and still a puppy and how he’d never hurt. It’s going to cause a major family row if I insist on not visiting, or meeting on neutral territory but I was so nervous around him and I’ve never felt that before with dogs. Thanks for making me feel I’m not over reacting.

@Shitzngiggles It's not the dogs, it's the owners.

No, it really is the dogs. Some breeds are inherently dangerous. This is already acknowledged in law.

You're not wrong, more often than not they are very placid and tolerant dogs. The problem is they are pure muscle with incredibly strong jaws and necks. If they do bite, you can't shift them. It took 3 adults and several attempts to pull a pit bull away from a dog it was attacking when I had to do it.

A yorkie or chihuahua might bite more readily but you can also grab and throw them off much more easily.

Having said that, again it all comes back to training and respect of the animal, it's not a breed problem. If a bully breed is trained and in control and if the people handling/approaching it are aware of visible signs of distress or discomfort then they are no more likely to bite than any other breed. They are just more likely to do major damage if they do,

I would ban all dogs

@frostygarden but at least if there’s were prosecutions for illegal breeding then there would be some people deterred from doing so, those who aren’t are of the ‘it’s good for them to have one litter first’ mentality like some of my extended family. They wouldn’t want to risk prosecution but wouldn’t want to pay to register or be inspected either. It would lessen the number of puppies going to irresponsible homes and not being trained properly.

@sheeplikessleep i would definitely be refusing to go there again. It’s all fine until the dog actually bites someone. You aren’t overreacting at all.

I love dogs. I love cats. I'm incredibly wary around dogs I don't know.

I missing part of my mouth and nose due to a dog bite (most people wouldn't notice. The surgeon was amazing) And before you ask I didn't do anything. I was sitting on the floor watching TV. I wasn't even touching the dog. There were no load noises. No frights. No shouts. I turned my head round to look at my Granny and the dog bit me. Wasn't even touching him.

I think humans should be trained more about dogs.

My DC won't touch a dog until they have the owner's permission. They know to cross their arms and turn away (Dog's Trust advice) from a dog that jumps or scares them.

The dog walker who lost her life had too many dogs.

Humans need more training
I like the ideas suggested by a PP who is a breeder - that seems like an ideal way of improving the situation.
Humans should go on dog ownership courses before being allowed to have dogs

Dogs are animals. Humans are responsible. Humans should be more responsible.

Your large powerful golden retriever is half the size of an XL Bully, an adult male can be up to 150 pounds. I'm 5'10 and that's heavier than me, there's no way most people could stop one in a rage.

Licenses are like microchips. The owners/dogs that need them the most are the ones that wouldn’t bother.

Maybe knee jerk reaction law. Many professionals agree the dangerous dogs act is bollocks

ALL dogs are strong enough to seriously hurt us.

The voting is 50/50 and many of us have the tragic death of the dog walker in Surrey in mind.

People are perfectly reasonable to want to debate this topic and - newsflash - they are neither stupid nor trolls for having a different opinion to you. You might be though judging by your unhelpful and insulting comment.

I'd ban ignorant people!

I had GSD, I took two who needed a really experienced owner or would have been PTS. I trained and had them for twelve years without issues. From day one with a GSD, you need chew toys that are their's and need to yelp and then ignore them if they put a tooth near you. If they go to put their mouth around anything but their toys, you do a sharp No and give them their toys. Your SIL is going to have a badly behaved dog who is going to hurt someone, even if it's by accident on the dogs part. The training starts as soon as you get them and should be finished at 18 months.

It's largely down to poor ownership. I've witnessed "youths" out with their big Staffies/American bulldogs or whatever similar breed they are and seen them purposefully winding them up. Wrestling with them, tapping them on the face, dragging them about, encouraging aggression/attach... same goes for people who let young kids poke, prod and stand on their dogs line they're a piece if furniture. Children need to be taught to respect animals.

Most dogs thrive with discipline, order and a loving home.

When they're abused/treated like objects they become unpredictable.

FWIW I also don't think dogs should ever be off lead on public land.

Heavy fines, dog wardens and licencing are the best way forward I think.

'Then we ban ALL breeds that are strong enough to seriously hurt us.'

Good luck getting labs banned. These anti-dog threads are getting really boring now...

Here we go again......🙄

Dogs are predators.

A simple fact people seem to forget.

So what weight are you going for with this op? You get big Labradors and retrievers. My collie is 26kg.. is he too big?

I'll support licences and mandatory training when we do the same for people who want to have children.

I know. It's not even every few days anymore a thread like this pops up. It's every few hours

I think they should licence owners rather then ban breeds as otherwise you would be banning all breeds other then toy ones who actually cause lots of bites because often they aren't trained properly and constantly picked up by the owner which causes issues.

It's poor ownership which is the issue

I don’t agree with the OP but I do agree there should be a limit on the number of dogs that a dog walker can walk at once. I just can’t believe they could have full control of more than say 4 dogs at once…