Dogs capable of sending us to hospital/the morgue need to be banned

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Yet another serious dog attack.

uknip.co.uk/Breaking/News/breaking/woman-rushed-to-hospital-after-attack-by-dog-in-the-street/?fbclid=IwAR3bVa7T5KdsbfMlHZqg8CjSCFIkSVJtGYjB8iAZJ5_2C2Rv4tomNMO1ask

YANBU - ban these dogs (bully breeds, huskies, Dobermans etc)
YABU - aw, poor pibbles, must have been provoked

This. Clearly some breeds have a greater potential to cause harm/serious harm/death but dogs who have done so have been failed by a human at some point.
There is no blanket rule/legislation that will ensure that no dog ever harms a human and killing dogs after an event hasn’t prevented it.
Untrained dogs should become so socially unacceptable (I’m also looking at you cockerpoo) that potential owners will think twice whether or not they are prepared to put the necessary work in to train their dog.
The biggest problem is unscrupulous and unlicensed breeders, crossbreeding for muscle and aggression and the fact they will sell to anyone with the money.
The vast majority of dogs are loved, trained and looked after and we are in danger of losing sight of the benefits of dog ownership for many people.

It's the mentality of some of these owners , no person with decent morals would want to train a dog to attack .

@Ohgodthepain you are absolutely right

I know a man who was killed by a pig. At work.
I have yet to hear of bacon being banned though.
Where we do we stop?
Its not the dogs, its the shitty scumbag owners we need to sort out.

Why does the OP of these type of posts never think . Maybe we should at the owners of these dogs. Its extremely rare to be a dog from a decent home.

I voted YABU simply because I have an assistance dog. He’s a large, powerful golden retriever.
he’s fully trained by the charity he came from. he weighs 32kg so I have little chance of fighting him if needed. But when did anyone hear of a fatal dog attack from that breed?
if we were to ban all strong, large dogs capable of killing a person we would also be banning essential assistance dogs.

Maybe BUT we aren't going to get any of that because it costs money, lots of it, which councils haven't got and (majority) Dog owners are very anti licence and anti compulsory training, anti anything that might restrict their freedoms in any way at all.

So more and more bans of breeds etc will happen - only got yourselves to blame.

There was also a very hefty leonburger there..

Love bully breeds, they are the loveliest kindest dogs. Just ask the professionals not the media. !!!!!

I agree. It’s ridiculous that we should be put at risk of maiming or death because someone else wants a pet. Crazy world.

Two of the dogs said to have joined in the fatal mauling of their walker in Surrey last week were apparently dachshunds. I know a bigger dog probably started it but they joined in.

I doubt any normal person would be scared of a dachshund or similar lap dog and by your reasoning they make acceptable pets. but there you are.

I expect the truth will come out about the Surrey attack and the one you've linked to. I guess it's probably not a good idea for one person to be responsibile for a large number of dogs at once no matter how big they are.

But I don't know and neither do you.

A crackdown on irresponsible breeding is what’s needed. Only licensed, inspected and monitored breeders should be allowed. All dogs other than registered as breeding dogs need to be neutered by law to stop people breeding irresponsibly to make money.

Theres someone on my local areas Facebook group advertising 11 xl bully pups. Second litter in less than 18 months. They’re just in it to make money, they don’t ensure they’re going to good homes. The dogs just end up as status symbols.

My sisters a veterinary nurse and she said it’s gotten worse since Covid. Lots of untrained dogs and people breeding them. Plus they’ve had lots of people in with dogs such as xl bully’s lately and she said that they are pretty sure they aren’t even that breed. Lots that they suspect are pit bull x staffy but people are buying them as puppies from randomers on Facebook who’ve bred them and they don’t know anything about the breeds and don’t even know (or care) what they’re actually getting.

I know that's a sarcastic comment but can you imagine how safe being a women or girl in public would be if all men (even the good men) were confined somehow?

It would be bliss.

I think the XL bully's and cane corsos should be banned actually. Huge proportion of fatal attacks are from these breeds.

Other large dogs who have the potential to kill no because where would it stop? Great Danes, golden retrivers both big breeda but gentle and not bred to kill.

Look at the data on fatal attacks and go from there.

Also bring back licences and more restrictions on who can breed.

Did you read the full article? The owner, the human, is being held on suspicion of GBH with intent, which sounds like he set the dog on her purposely. So yet again a human behaviour causes a dreadful attack and the dog pays the price.

My SIL has a GSD, 18 months old and visiting over Christmas, he still puts his jaws/teeth around arms and hands when playing, without being trained not to.
He isn’t aggressive or showing any signs he isn’t playing, but the response of “he’s just a puppy, tasting it’s how they learn” is making me not want to visit next Christmas. I just hated seeing my sons with his jaws around them and no one realise that this isn’t normal. They think it’s me being awkward but the lack of training concerns me and I’m not taking the risk.
Sorry slight derail 🙈

Dog owners need training in how to be responsible for their dogs. Also people in general need training to stop them letting their kids rush up to a dog and pet it. I have a dog and regularly have to ask kids to step away from my dog and shout out to their parents/caregivers that my dog is not ready for hands in his face whilst he’s out for a walk on a short lead

The ability to make any topic anti male is amazing

Another stupid trolling dog bashing thread

@Hellsmovie I was responding to someone's sarcastic comment! My imagination ran away with me...

It's not anti male, rather a reflection of the facts of male violence.

As a bonus other men would also be safe from male violence.

Is it a male dog owner who has been charged with GBH?

In that case your dog should be muzzled until it is safe around people/children, it is not the other way round.

The law wouldn't see it like that either, you d be prosecuted and possibly your dog destroyed - not too mention maiming a child.

TBH you shouldn't even have a dog.

I've known 'daft as a brush' Alsatians and ferociously nasty sausage dogs. Given the wrong ownership, any dog has the ability to kill.

I'm not sure how a licence system would help. Surely the breeding of 'status' dogs would just move underground and cash would exchange hands?

@sheeplikessleep my big gs is slightly younger than your sil’s and has lots of contact with children.
He doesn’t mouth us and neither should your sil’s dog. He has outgrown that stage by many months.
Your sil is being irresponsible and if there is a serious incident, although gs dogs are not aggressive, the poor dog will be blamed.
I don’t blame you for being concerned

We have a westie whose teeth are like needles! If she was so inclined and bite my neck, she'd probably kill me. So your proposal is ridiculous unless you're planning to ban all dogs.
I do agree some breeds are statistically more likely to attack and cause serious injury, regardless of how they're raised, but most larger breeds are actually friendlier than smaller ones when raised right!
And I say that as someone terrified of dogs I don't know from an early age!

Two of the dogs implicated in last week’s horrific park pack attack were dachshunds. My MIL had horrific scarring on her face from a shih tzu. My one & only serious dog bite was from a Dandie Dinmont (bent down, saw my arse as a juicy morsel, nice chunk out of my buttock. None of these dogs were any bigger than a bloody toaster.

I have always had large 40kg plus dogs since I was a child (I have 2 doods now).

It’s about the owners, not the dog. Irresponsible owners will always be the problem. It is up to us to train ourselves, train our dogs & make sure we never put our dogs into an unsupervised position where a fatal accident is even a remote possibility.

You could go back to the dog licences of my youth, and we’d still have issues with bad ownership, because for every piece of legislation there’ll be someone who’ll swerve the law. In fact, 70s we had dog licences, yet we regularly had packs of dogs roaming our local estate.

Arseholes will always be arseholes.

Good luck breeding that out of humanity.