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Furries in IKEA

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user19888891 · 16/01/2023 07:17

www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-ikea-shoppers-confused-after-25983306?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t appropriate? Surely it’s no more appropriate to be naked in public than to walk around dresses up for a sex game? Do IKEA have a responsibility to safeguard their young guests?

I was particularly taken aback by this paragraph ;
‘Although many think it is a sexual fetish more often than not dressing up like animals is a fun escape for a community of people who enjoy expressing themselves in this way.’
is this true? I’ve never heard of this being done in a non sexual manner

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sillybillyboo1 · 16/01/2023 14:03

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ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 14:05

RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 16/01/2023 14:01

They’re not large breasts though. They’re prosthetics. Fake breasts. Not part of this person’s body in any way.

Women who teach in secondary school routinely wear padded bras to avoid accidental nipple protrusion.

This male person who naturally has no breasts has made a choice, and keeps making the choice, to wear fake breasts with fake permanently erect nipples.

And you’re defending that.

JFC.

Not defending, merely not offended.

Again there is a difference, not being angry about something doesn’t mean you’re actively endorsing anything.

The choice is weird, probably making a point over getting sexual kicks out of it (since he was fired previously, and is most likely doing this as a fuck you to the school board instead of to get off on the kids seeing fake nipples)

But again, the key here is no one can know someone’s intent with situations like this if they don’t make it clear. So getting up in arms over it, when it doesn’t impact you what so ever is just a waste of energy

GreenManalishi · 16/01/2023 14:06

The minute I step out of my front door to walk down the street, go to IKEA, get on a plane to another country, I will encounter many humans. Not once do I get to give consent to others about what they're wearing, and where they are going while wearing it. I think that is one of the great things about living in this country in 2023. I also cannot withdraw consent on behalf of others, because it didn't exist in the first place.

Sometimes their behaviour will cross a line, and I'll feel outraged about it, that is my personal line. Sometimes, maybe simultaneously, it will cross a legal line, and "something" will be done about it.

Societies of humans worldwide rely on a code of conduct which most people have the natural desire to stick to, lest they be ostracised, and then you get the outliers who really couldn't give a shit, who have decided with their friends to wear a mask to the local shops in the middle of the day, because it gives them a hard on, then they go home and do what they do.

I know I cannot control those people. They have always existed and they always will. I choose to not be offended, or outraged, if I saw a naked person at the tills ordering meatballs I'd very much take the same view.

I'm not in any kind of cool gang, or any gang at all. I just don't feel that the intent behind this little afternoon outing was paedophila, or an infringement of my personal anything. There's a time and a place, for certain, and this wasn't it, however yes there is a line, and no I don't think that I'm in charge of deciding where that is for everyone.

knittingaddict · 16/01/2023 14:06

RichardBarrister · 16/01/2023 09:55

To all the people minimising this and not seeing any issue with a family store being targeted by men wishing to display their fetish (I mean you can’t choose soft furnishings properly while crawling around on the end of a dog lead!), you may need to know more about the costumes - please excuse the unpleasantness of what I am about to say.

These ‘waggy tails’ are often butt plugs. The men who dress as furries for Pride marches etc display their butt plugs openly to children as Pride is advertised as family friendly. These men who like to display their fetish to children and are being facilitated by adults who have unfortunately lost a sense of what is appropriate for children and as a consequence have abandoned safeguards.

Thank you for this post.

Some people on here have been incredibly naive about what is going on in plain sight. It obviously needs to be explained robustly to the credulous.

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 14:06

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Most people aren’t so bigoted to call trans women men.

But we see you

sillybillyboo1 · 16/01/2023 14:07

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 14:05

Not defending, merely not offended.

Again there is a difference, not being angry about something doesn’t mean you’re actively endorsing anything.

The choice is weird, probably making a point over getting sexual kicks out of it (since he was fired previously, and is most likely doing this as a fuck you to the school board instead of to get off on the kids seeing fake nipples)

But again, the key here is no one can know someone’s intent with situations like this if they don’t make it clear. So getting up in arms over it, when it doesn’t impact you what so ever is just a waste of energy

Of course the childrens learning and safety is of least important to 'elfandsafety' .

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 14:07

knittingaddict · 16/01/2023 14:06

Thank you for this post.

Some people on here have been incredibly naive about what is going on in plain sight. It obviously needs to be explained robustly to the credulous.

But they’re not using bum plugs, so it doesn’t really matter if some dog people do use tails with bum attachments or not, if they were and it was visible then this would cross into being a criminal act.

Justasec321 · 16/01/2023 14:08

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 13:59

‘Probably’

nah

I’ll give you a might be, but not a probably.

You still haven’t answered what’s happened to intent, it’s been a cornerstone of this debate on why the dog people are perverts, but doesn’t seem to apply to the trans woman with big breasts.

"I’ll give you a might be, but not a probably"

nah

Probably

LonginesPrime · 16/01/2023 14:08

Regardless of the fetish thing, I would be very uneasy shopping with grown men walking around in masks where they can't be identified - my first thought would be that they're trying to evade CCTV because they're planning some sort of terror attack/illegal activism.

I would be leaving ASAP and would feel almost relieved if it turned out they were simply using the general public as props in their weird little sex games.

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 14:08

sillybillyboo1 · 16/01/2023 14:07

Of course the childrens learning and safety is of least important to 'elfandsafety' .

Proof that large fake breasts have stopped the children learning, and made them unsafe?

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 14:09

It’s quite fun how anyone who isn’t morally stuck in the 1950s is described as “cool” by some on MN.

hickorydickorysock · 16/01/2023 14:10

I'm interested to know, for anyone who doesn't think it's for sexual gratification.. (not all sexual fantasies are acted out naked)..

If it isn't for sexual gratification then surely it's a mental health issue? I mean they aren't hurting anyone sure but if someone wants to act like a dog in public, to me there is some sort of issue mentally. The majority of people do not think they are a dog and don't want to be treated like one.

I do believe this was for sexual gratification, I mean it could have been a prank etc but I'm leaning sexual/mental!

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 14:10

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 14:09

It’s quite fun how anyone who isn’t morally stuck in the 1950s is described as “cool” by some on MN.

Ikr, MN is the only place to describe me as cool.

Cool wife is another one, obviously only used against women who aren’t stuck in the 50’s regarding their marriage or sex lives.

lifeturnsonadime · 16/01/2023 14:10

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 14:06

Most people aren’t so bigoted to call trans women men.

But we see you

But trans women are men.

This is another area where language is mangled in order to break down boundaries, where we are supposed to put the male's wishes in front our our needs no matter that it harms us.

The biological reality is that human's can't change sex.

sillybillyboo1 · 16/01/2023 14:10

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 14:06

Most people aren’t so bigoted to call trans women men.

But we see you

It has nothing to do with bigotry it is just a simple biological fact. We all have eyes we know what a man is and what a woman is. It is interesting how you refer to some men as women at the same time as defending male exhibitionism. Nah wait actually it's really predictable.

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2023 14:11

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 14:01

So, I don’t particularly enjoy seeing young men’s boxer shorts when they are wearing low slung jeans. But I would not expect them to gain my consent before passing me in the street.

If, as you seem to be suggesting, they (and anyone else wearing something someone might find distasteful) were to have to gain my consent before passing me in the street, how would that work exactly?

Or would you pass a law with a long list of banned clothing items? And who would decide what these were and by what criteria?

Eh?

You seem to be struggling to understand that it's not about the clothing, it's about someone deliberately eliciting a response from onlookers to involved them in non-consensual sexual activity.

The problem is the paraphilia. Not the clothing.

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 14:11

LonginesPrime · 16/01/2023 14:08

Regardless of the fetish thing, I would be very uneasy shopping with grown men walking around in masks where they can't be identified - my first thought would be that they're trying to evade CCTV because they're planning some sort of terror attack/illegal activism.

I would be leaving ASAP and would feel almost relieved if it turned out they were simply using the general public as props in their weird little sex games.

How do you make it through the day with this level of fear in your life?

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 16/01/2023 14:11

Maybe we should swap out ‘cool’ for ‘naive’ or ‘stupid’. Yes, let’s do that.

sillybillyboo1 · 16/01/2023 14:12

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 14:08

Proof that large fake breasts have stopped the children learning, and made them unsafe?

I work in a school love. You worry me.

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2023 14:12

Most people aren’t so bigoted to call trans women men.

In what way is a transwoman a man? A transwoman literally has to be a man in order to be a transwoman.

hickorydickorysock · 16/01/2023 14:12

ShimmeringShirts · 16/01/2023 08:40

Sexual fetish or not, this shouldn’t be allowed in public. Not just for kids, I personally don’t want to see shit like that, it’s involving me in their “look at us!” play, why the need to have the public aware of your instabilities? It’s not fun for the rest of us.

Exactly. How do you explain this to a child as well. Why are those grown adults dressed and acting like dogs mummy?

Well, they aren't very well? God knows what I would say. If my son was crawling round the shop I would ask him to get up and walk but what if children are seeing grown adults acting like it.. 🤯

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2023 14:12

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 14:11

How do you make it through the day with this level of fear in your life?

Sneering at women for 'fear'.

DesertIslandCondiment · 16/01/2023 14:12

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 13:18

Of course it is, you seem to think peoples civil liberties should be based on what makes you scared.

The world doesn’t work like that, you are responsible for your own reactions, no one else is responsible for making you feel safe or less scared.

The men in IKEA have objectively done nothing wrong, you getting upset seeing it isn’t their problem, nor anyone else’s.

That might be a hard pill to swallow but it’s a basic fact.

They are wearing dog gimp masks.

Who in their right mind would decide it was appropriate to parade around Ikea in a dog gimp mask?

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 14:12

hickorydickorysock · 16/01/2023 14:10

I'm interested to know, for anyone who doesn't think it's for sexual gratification.. (not all sexual fantasies are acted out naked)..

If it isn't for sexual gratification then surely it's a mental health issue? I mean they aren't hurting anyone sure but if someone wants to act like a dog in public, to me there is some sort of issue mentally. The majority of people do not think they are a dog and don't want to be treated like one.

I do believe this was for sexual gratification, I mean it could have been a prank etc but I'm leaning sexual/mental!

So what if it was a mental illness?

All these what ifs are a bit weird, it matters just as little that it was a mental health issue as it does if it was a sexual kink.

Tbh I agree this was likely to be sexually based, as those dog masks are quite gimpy, but it doesn’t mean it’s not allowed in public. Just like I could go to my local co-op wearing a gimp mask, or even light bandage gear as long as my bits were covered.

lifeturnsonadime · 16/01/2023 14:13

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 16/01/2023 14:11

Maybe we should swap out ‘cool’ for ‘naive’ or ‘stupid’. Yes, let’s do that.

I think you are being kind.

These posters know exactly what and who they are advocating for.

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