Furries in IKEA

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Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t appropriate? Surely it’s no more appropriate to be naked in public than to walk around dresses up for a sex game? Do IKEA have a responsibility to safeguard their young guests?

I was particularly taken aback by this paragraph ;
‘Although many think it is a sexual fetish more often than not dressing up like animals is a fun escape for a community of people who enjoy expressing themselves in this way.’
is this true? I’ve never heard of this being done in a non sexual manner

It was in response to the poster stating erroneously that everyone does it. They don't.

Nothing is wrong with taking kids to family-friendly pride. I wouldn't take mine to adults aimed ones. It's important not to conflate public displays of kink with LGBT movements.

What is "happening at a wider level" is a wider social attitude which priviliges men and their sexual desires. This is the roots of male's sexual entiltement. This is why men experience even the most minimal "no, thanks" as a personal attack on their sexual freedom.

The problem is a don't think calling it family friendly pride makes it family friendly, just like when they say 'child drag queen story hour'.

you do realise two men kissed on East Enders over 30-odd years go, don't you

Hmm and that is why many lgb are breaking from the T and distancing from pride. It is of no interest of me to attend such events much less children.

Comparing Pride to a strip club is grossly offensive.

Of course it’s not okay.

absolutely

Pretty sure Colin and Barry weren't wearing gimp masks.

Interesting to see how often people resort to the empty “clutching pearls” response when they think they themselves are part of some innovative intellectual movement based on queer theory and porn.

Not sure what point you are trying to make, comes across as rather sillly.

It's the involvement of Queer Theory and the push to involve BDSM and kink in pride that makes it unsuitable for children in the same way that The Rainbow Butt Dildo monkey is unsuitable for pre-schoolers.

ELO has no problem with this for children.

I think it is akin to abuse to expose children to men's sexual rights activism. Children can't consent.

ELO says the children were happy there, well who knows, but children tend to try to please the adults who have parental responsibliity for them.

Either way exposing children to this is wrong. This is why ELO wants to blur boundaries. ELO puts the sexual rights of men above the rights of children to be protected from being exposed to it.

So it's OK for you to be offended but not the rest of us?

I reckon Barry was up for a bit of that though ;)

Its so embarassing isnt it 😂

Probably not on the school run.

I think it really depends on the event, where you live, etc. I wouldn't take kids to any kink Pride events, but the one local to us is just fully dressed people marching with flags and some music, all fine. There's loads of reasons why you might want to take kids to pride - maybe you're at LGBT family and you want your children to see other families with two mums, for example, or you might want to show support for the community. Totally get that the LGB vs LGBTQ+ is controversial, I wouldn't know how to wade into that and explain it to children.

I think what we can and should agree on though is that involving others in your sexual acts and sexual displays is only ok if that's what they've signed up for.

You take your kid to Pride and see some pups (or some pup players come into Ikea while you are there).

Your kid asks 'why are they wearing that dog masks'.

Depending on their age, you might give different answers.

Let's say they are 11, and are already aware of quite a few aspects of sex and sexuality. You simply explain some people enjoy dressing up like that and playing imaginary games as part of sex. You might also say, its fairly uncommon. You then go and buy a hotdog.

What's the problem?

Its always the same - i object to taking kids to pride events because of what it exposes them to therefore must be homophobic. I don't think they just hand out fairy cakes to the kids and give them a history lesson...I could do that at home, if I really wanted to.

Let's say they are 11, and are already aware of quite a few aspects of sex and sexuality. You simply explain some people enjoy dressing up like that and playing imaginary games as part of sex. You might also say, its fairly uncommon. You then go and buy a hotdog

Many 11 year olds are pre-pubescent. They just don't NEED to know about men's sexual kinks.

Good lord...
That's why it isn't child friendly

would it be different if it was a woman?

you don't seriously think there are no women in to BDSM do you?

The dildo-butt-monkey is also an entirely different conversation. It wasn't about trans issues, or about gay people, or anything related to LGBTQ+. It was about a local council booking an entirely unsuitable "circus" group, that they'd never seen and didn't bother looking into. The monkey literally had a dildo hanging from the front of their costume. A dildo, worn over genitals, isn't the same as people in animal costumes. As adults we know what the dog costumes probably meant, but kids wouldn't. Having a life like dildo hanging off your costume is very very different. And they also harrassed women - including some women in full hijab - on the street.

11 years old? You really are open about all kinds of things.

I would just tell my children they're mentally unwell. This makes more sense, as a parent.