Furries in IKEA

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Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t appropriate? Surely it’s no more appropriate to be naked in public than to walk around dresses up for a sex game? Do IKEA have a responsibility to safeguard their young guests?

I was particularly taken aback by this paragraph ;
‘Although many think it is a sexual fetish more often than not dressing up like animals is a fun escape for a community of people who enjoy expressing themselves in this way.’
is this true? I’ve never heard of this being done in a non sexual manner

“Large breasts aren’t sexualised fetish gear.”

Are you really that naive?

Well said

Not when that’s not the intent surely.

Otherwise the arguments previously about those in the dog outfits are bad because of the intent not the outfits are BS surely?

Seems to be posters on here:

men in dog outfits - deviants because of intent, if they were dressing up for fun, not to get off on people looking at them it’s less bad.

transwoman with large breasts - a deviant even though there is no sexual intent

Absolutely. And boundaries are so over-rated. Who needs 'em?

Society has a right to determine what should or should not be moral or legal, public or otherwise.

are those who get large breast implants deviants?

Actually I took the post to be a warning -

Sillyboo is saying - "I was assaulted preceeded by exhibitionim. Be aware. This is not benign."

Then Silly boo says "now it would induce a panic attack"

NOT - all laws should be made around my panic attacks/reactions.

Sillyboo is being a decent citizen for giving a heads up/reminder that exhibitionist behaviour can be a first step.

And society has, unfortunately it’s not decided the way you’d like it to be

No, but men who wear fake prosthetic breasts with perma erect nipples in front of teenagers probably are.

The guys in the dog costume are the ones who find it sexual. They are wearing it for sexual purposes.

Re: the fake breast thing. I think we can agree to disagree. Cis women also differ on whether they consider their own breats to be sexual or not. If the teacher is being sexual, then it's a safeguarding problem. If they're not, well, then there's a whole other host of problems (like why they think that looking like that aligns with womanhood as a gender). But the dog sex guys are a different question entirely, precisely because we all agree that it is a sex thing. By their own admission, it is a sex thing.

So it boils down to: should we invovle others, inc. children in our sex kinks as bystanders.

Of course if can be a first step, knowing this doesn’t really do anything though.

As you can’t legislate on what people might do.

You also can’t treat everyone in a group as a pervert because some will turn out to be just that.

The teacher who wears oversized fake breasts to teach children is not acceptable.

I’m sure it’s been mentioned but the man ‘walking’ these two ‘furries’ appears to be older. I’d say judging by the clothing and general body language, those ‘furries’ are late teens. We all know there is something amiss here. It’s inappropriate. It’s forcing your sexual fetish on to others and it’s not necessary! If you want to wear a dog tail, do it in the comfort of your living room whilst you watch Corrie. But then, these men (because let’s face it, the overwhelming majority are), wouldn’t get their little sexual kick without anyone watching would they? I pray that in my lifetime I see an end to all this bullshit.

For now. That can change. That is how democracy works love.

‘Probably’

nah

I’ll give you a might be, but not a probably.

You still haven’t answered what’s happened to intent, it’s been a cornerstone of this debate on why the dog people are perverts, but doesn’t seem to apply to the trans woman with big breasts.

“Not when that’s not the intent surely.

Otherwise the arguments previously about those in the dog outfits are bad because of the intent not the outfits are BS surely?

Seems to be posters on here:

men in dog outfits - deviants because of intent, if they were dressing up for fun, not to get off on people looking at them it’s less bad.

transwoman with large breasts - a deviant even though there is no sexual intent

How do you know what their intentions are?

We see quite a lot of evidence of the intent of men who dress up in fetish gear because they like to share their innermost thoughts online. Many such people make their intentions very clear. What possible non sexual intent could you derive from a pair of xx fake breasts with prominent nipples worn with a pair of cycling shorts and a tight top?

So it boils down to: should we invovle others, inc. children in our sex kinks as bystanders.

But that is exactly what that canadian teacher is doing. Trans is not a get out of jail free card!

And just to say cis isn't taken well on this site. We are women. That's enough.

Of course, but until then you’re just going to have to deal with a world where you’re not the most important person in it.

Quite, one could also ask this of those getting offended by the dog people surely?

How can you be so sure of someone else’s intent. Enough to get up in arms about it no less.

They’re not large breasts though. They’re prosthetics. Fake breasts. Not part of this person’s body in any way.

Women who teach in secondary school routinely wear padded bras to avoid accidental nipple protrusion.

This male person who naturally has no breasts has made a choice, and keeps making the choice, to wear fake breasts with fake permanently erect nipples.

And you’re defending that.

JFC.

Are you referring to a particular set of fake breasts worn by a high school teacher in Canada or not?

So, I don’t particularly enjoy seeing young men’s boxer shorts when they are wearing low slung jeans. But I would not expect them to gain my consent before passing me in the street.

If, as you seem to be suggesting, they (and anyone else wearing something someone might find distasteful) were to have to gain my consent before passing me in the street, how would that work exactly?

Or would you pass a law with a long list of banned clothing items? And who would decide what these were and by what criteria?

Of course, but until then you’re just going to have to deal with a world where you’re not the most important person in it.

Oh believe me, we know women and children are not the most important women in the world.

We matter less than even those men who enjoy playing out their sexual fetishes in public.

You not liking something doesn’t really make a difference irl.

Most of know that having lost, in a few short years, the right to single sex space and single sex sport. And it does cross a line if you stand where we stand.

Obviously not if you stand where you stand.

Oh we all know damn well who gains from this 😉 It’s why they are pushing so hard to break down boundaries and make safeguarding out to be prudish. (Clue, it’s not usually adult human females).