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Asked to move from relatives house

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OrangeBlankets · 14/01/2023 09:32

I've been living in a relatives house for more than 2 years. When I moved in the relative was in a care home but the person who had POA for them agreed for me to move in and said it was ok for a short time and that I didn't have to pay rent.

Now the house owner died and so did the POA. The executors want me to move out.

I don't have anywhere to go, can they evict me?

OP posts:
VivaDixie · 14/01/2023 10:10

Look at it this way. You aren't included in the will but you kind of are in the sense that you have saved potentially £24k on average in rent over 2 years.

You do seem rather entitled. I would struggle to live in a house where I had a poor relationship with the owner, whether they are there or not. I would be extremely grateful for the opportunity I had been given.

And then move on

atteatimeeverybodyagrees · 14/01/2023 10:11

You've taken the piss. They said it was ok for a short time not 2 years. I hope they take steps to formally evict you.

PoinsettiaPosturing · 14/01/2023 10:12

You've lived rent-free for 2 years and now want to cause more hassle by refusing to leave? Sign up with the council for council housing & look into charities that help with rental deposits. Honestly, learn to stand on your own 2 feet!

atteatimeeverybodyagrees · 14/01/2023 10:12

OrangeBlankets · 14/01/2023 09:59

No I'm not named in the Will.

I don't think the Will is very fair but my grandmother wasn't a nice person.

The executors want to sell the house.

I do have a job now but I haven't saved money up because I haven't been well.

The Will is shit all to do with it unless she has said to give the house to you.

atteatimeeverybodyagrees · 14/01/2023 10:13

The executors have to sell the house in order to carry out your grandmother's wishes presumably. And your dog is not their problem. You'll have to get rid of the dog if you can't find anywhere to rent with it.

TrashyPanda · 14/01/2023 10:13

Time to pack your bags and move out.

two years is not a “short time”.
you’ve had an exceedingly good deal for quite a long time. Two years rent is a lot to potentially deprive the estate of and it could be argued that the attorney was not acting in the best interests of your GM by not charging rent.

AlmondBake · 14/01/2023 10:13

To be fair, it's not all been one way. The op has effectively been house-sitting for 2 years to make sure the house is okay at no cost to the estate. Better than having it stand empty.

But sadly you do need to move out op. The local authority may even have a charge against the house and it may need to be sold to cover your grandmother's care home costs?

AreOttersJustWetCats · 14/01/2023 10:17

AlmondBake · 14/01/2023 10:13

To be fair, it's not all been one way. The op has effectively been house-sitting for 2 years to make sure the house is okay at no cost to the estate. Better than having it stand empty.

But sadly you do need to move out op. The local authority may even have a charge against the house and it may need to be sold to cover your grandmother's care home costs?

But it has been all one way. The house could have been commercially rented during that time and actually made a profit for the estate. The tenants would have paid the bills too, plus rent.

The OP has benefitted a lot, but now she needs To make alternative arrangements.

FrownedUpon · 14/01/2023 10:17

You should be grateful they let you live there rent free for so long. You need to find somewhere else to live & stop freeloading.

Waterfallgirl · 14/01/2023 10:18

What do you think you should do OP?

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OrangeBlankets · 14/01/2023 10:18

The care home fees are already paid, they don't need to sell the house for that. They won't let me stay here even if I do pay rent though.

I will go to CAB to ask for help

OP posts:
Quincythequince · 14/01/2023 10:19

OrangeBlankets · 14/01/2023 09:59

No I'm not named in the Will.

I don't think the Will is very fair but my grandmother wasn't a nice person.

The executors want to sell the house.

I do have a job now but I haven't saved money up because I haven't been well.

Ok OP.
You lost me here!

Her will is her will.

Why does it need to be fair. We’re you helping just so you got a payout?

If so, fair enough, but why not just monetise your services from the off?

LemonTT · 14/01/2023 10:19

For a contract to exist there needs to be a transaction. I don’t see one here. The OP may have been given an agreement that allowed her to occupy the property but not a tenancy.

Covering bills for the utilities you consume wouldn’t be part of a transaction.

being a caretaker would be a form of employment and wouldn’t give the op rights.

OP you need to speak to the council but will probably be told to find your own accommodation. Having a dog isn’t right for you at the moment. Ask a relative to foster it or get it rehomed.

Quincythequince · 14/01/2023 10:20

OrangeBlankets · 14/01/2023 10:18

The care home fees are already paid, they don't need to sell the house for that. They won't let me stay here even if I do pay rent though.

I will go to CAB to ask for help

They don’t have to rent their house to you OP.

Get your head around the fact that you have to move, and will have to start paying rent somewhere.

Schnooze · 14/01/2023 10:22

It will take a while if they have to formally evict you. It will cost them money and time and you will have no relationship with them afterwards if you make them go down this route.
Morally it would stink for you to do this to them. They gave you a helping hand when you needed it and you should do the right thing and move out and be very appreciative for their help till now.

Macaroni46 · 14/01/2023 10:22

OrangeBlankets · 14/01/2023 10:18

The care home fees are already paid, they don't need to sell the house for that. They won't let me stay here even if I do pay rent though.

I will go to CAB to ask for help

But why should they let you stay even if you pay rent?
Maybe under the terms of the Will the estate, including the house, needs to be shared between a number of beneficiaries. Therefore the house needs to be sold.
Time to grow up OP. You need to accept that you need to find somewhere else to live. You must've known the arrangement wouldn't last forever.
Also, you must've known that getting a dog would make things more difficult.

atteatimeeverybodyagrees · 14/01/2023 10:24

OrangeBlankets · 14/01/2023 10:18

The care home fees are already paid, they don't need to sell the house for that. They won't let me stay here even if I do pay rent though.

I will go to CAB to ask for help

It's not about the care home fees. If the will says to split her assets 50% to each child or something they have to sell the house to do this.

I don't get why you can't just find somewhere else to live like everyone else has to and just accept you've had it lucky housingwise for 2 years.

atteatimeeverybodyagrees · 14/01/2023 10:24

Macaroni46 · 14/01/2023 10:22

But why should they let you stay even if you pay rent?
Maybe under the terms of the Will the estate, including the house, needs to be shared between a number of beneficiaries. Therefore the house needs to be sold.
Time to grow up OP. You need to accept that you need to find somewhere else to live. You must've known the arrangement wouldn't last forever.
Also, you must've known that getting a dog would make things more difficult.

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Yes not sure why you got a dog OP if you can't afford rent.

Goldilocksmother · 14/01/2023 10:24

Your grandmother isn’t a nice person?

She let you stay rent free for two years reducing the pot for the will -

If it’s £500 a month locally that’s £12,000

Redlocks28 · 14/01/2023 10:25

They won't let me stay here even if I do pay rent though.

I don’t blame them-you sound like a liability. You have lived there rent-free for two years, got yourself a dog (when was that?) which makes rehousing yourself much more difficult and you clearly don’t think you should have to move out. I would imagine you have broken all family ties here irrevocably.

I would speak to the housing people for advice for you and perhaps a dog rescue, too.

Theluggage15 · 14/01/2023 10:25

So you can afford to pay rent then? Just rent somewhere else.

WandaWonder · 14/01/2023 10:26

It's not your house, why is that so hard to understand ?

custardbear · 14/01/2023 10:26

You've been very lucky living rent free to be honest. It sounds like you need to speak to the CAB or housing about finding elsewhere to live.
You do need to make provisions for yourself, yea it's hard but you have a bit of time, negotiate with then about staying til it's sold - but act immediately, don't wait, it all takes time to set up

sanityisamyth · 14/01/2023 10:28

OrangeBlankets · 14/01/2023 10:18

The care home fees are already paid, they don't need to sell the house for that. They won't let me stay here even if I do pay rent though.

I will go to CAB to ask for help

Fucking hell. They don't want a squatter taking up a property. They want to rent it out properly or sell it. You cannot live there rent free forever. You've not been well? Lots of people have physical and/or mental health problems and don't squat in relatives houses for years. Go to the council and get rehoused.

Asylumhotels · 14/01/2023 10:28

Franky OP, how dare you.

Someone is going through loss and you're making life even harder for them. Disgusting behaviour.