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Asked to move from relatives house

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OrangeBlankets · 14/01/2023 09:32

I've been living in a relatives house for more than 2 years. When I moved in the relative was in a care home but the person who had POA for them agreed for me to move in and said it was ok for a short time and that I didn't have to pay rent.

Now the house owner died and so did the POA. The executors want me to move out.

I don't have anywhere to go, can they evict me?

OP posts:
Morgysmum · 16/01/2023 10:55

NooNooHead1981
That was 5 years ago so it may be less, or probably more. They like to build Student accommodation in Sheffield. Plus the occasional affordable homes, that sadly not many can afford. They did up some council flats, I think a private company. Which people could then buy, but probably not the former council tenants.

Flossatops · 16/01/2023 12:08

It says everything that you're willing to be evicted rather than move of your own accord. Such incredibly selfish and entitled behaviour, no matter what your mental health is like.

Mynewhome · 16/01/2023 13:03

Flossatops · 16/01/2023 12:08

It says everything that you're willing to be evicted rather than move of your own accord. Such incredibly selfish and entitled behaviour, no matter what your mental health is like.

You clearly don't know the system. If op leaves before eviction the council will not help her . She will be classed as intentionally homeless as she has a legal right to stay until eviction. The council won't help her if she leaves.

Motherofone163 · 16/01/2023 13:39

You have had a great chance to at least get some rent money together for future rental. They have given you a great chance so don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Be grateful not a burden.

MichelleScarn · 16/01/2023 15:19

Mynewhome · 16/01/2023 13:03

You clearly don't know the system. If op leaves before eviction the council will not help her . She will be classed as intentionally homeless as she has a legal right to stay until eviction. The council won't help her if she leaves.

Is it even eviction if op doesn't pay rent? What if the owner doesn't want to have to go through an expensive court process (that op expects them to fully pay) and just goes in one day and changes the locks? Would homelessness not help then?

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 16/01/2023 15:41

MichelleScarn · 16/01/2023 15:19

Is it even eviction if op doesn't pay rent? What if the owner doesn't want to have to go through an expensive court process (that op expects them to fully pay) and just goes in one day and changes the locks? Would homelessness not help then?

I was wondering exactly that, @MichelleScarn. The system is absolutely broken if someone who has been given notice to leave a property they've been living in is only considered to be homeless if they have been formally evicted by the owner of the property. Even if they leave without an eviction notice and go and stay with relatives or friends on a short term basis, this doesn't count as homelessness, as I understand it. Ridiculous system.

Mynewhome · 16/01/2023 15:43

MichelleScarn · 16/01/2023 15:19

Is it even eviction if op doesn't pay rent? What if the owner doesn't want to have to go through an expensive court process (that op expects them to fully pay) and just goes in one day and changes the locks? Would homelessness not help then?

If they go in and just change the locks it would be an illegal eviction. There was a tenancy agreement. If there was an issues with rent arrears that would be eviction under section 8. Instead of section 21.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/01/2023 15:46

Flossatops · 16/01/2023 12:08

It says everything that you're willing to be evicted rather than move of your own accord. Such incredibly selfish and entitled behaviour, no matter what your mental health is like.

It's the kind of person who doesn't care about anyone else's mental health.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 16/01/2023 15:53

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/01/2023 15:46

It's the kind of person who doesn't care about anyone else's mental health.

That's way too black and white. Councils make it extraordinarily difficult for those who are in the OP's position to find a new home they can afford. If the OP is not to be considered as having made herself intentionally homeless, thereby forfeiting any help for rehousing by her local council, she has to be formally evicted if she needs to be found housing by the council. Obviously if she could find an affordable place to go to, she would be going there now, but in this case, she needs help from her local council, by the sounds of it.

kateandme · 16/01/2023 16:08

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 16/01/2023 15:53

That's way too black and white. Councils make it extraordinarily difficult for those who are in the OP's position to find a new home they can afford. If the OP is not to be considered as having made herself intentionally homeless, thereby forfeiting any help for rehousing by her local council, she has to be formally evicted if she needs to be found housing by the council. Obviously if she could find an affordable place to go to, she would be going there now, but in this case, she needs help from her local council, by the sounds of it.

Eaactly this.
And yes to the p.o. poster the system is fucked but

kateandme · 16/01/2023 16:12

kateandme · 16/01/2023 16:08

Eaactly this.
And yes to the p.o. poster the system is fucked but

Fucked for those that need it.

ClubhouseGift · 16/01/2023 16:14

Mynewhome · 16/01/2023 15:43

If they go in and just change the locks it would be an illegal eviction. There was a tenancy agreement. If there was an issues with rent arrears that would be eviction under section 8. Instead of section 21.

I’d do it anyway.

If OP couldn’t even manage to save any money whilst being rent free for two years she hasn’t got her shit together enough to fight it, and she would be extremely cheeky to do so anyway.

Mynewhome · 16/01/2023 16:20

ClubhouseGift · 16/01/2023 16:14

I’d do it anyway.

If OP couldn’t even manage to save any money whilst being rent free for two years she hasn’t got her shit together enough to fight it, and she would be extremely cheeky to do so anyway.

What makes you think she was in the position to save. Op only recently started work. Why did they offer for her to live there rent free ? They could have charged rent and she would have been able to claim houseing benefit but for what ever reason they chose not to.

SheilaFentiman · 16/01/2023 16:21

ClubhouseGift · 16/01/2023 16:14

I’d do it anyway.

If OP couldn’t even manage to save any money whilst being rent free for two years she hasn’t got her shit together enough to fight it, and she would be extremely cheeky to do so anyway.

Would you?

You would illegally evict your relative (niece, possibly)?

Who has been living in this property with the permission of the POA (possibly her great uncle, certainly also a relative of yours), paying bills and keeping the lights on?

Would you? Really?

ClubhouseGift · 16/01/2023 16:32

SheilaFentiman · 16/01/2023 16:21

Would you?

You would illegally evict your relative (niece, possibly)?

Who has been living in this property with the permission of the POA (possibly her great uncle, certainly also a relative of yours), paying bills and keeping the lights on?

Would you? Really?

Of course I would. She’s selfish, entitled and doesn’t give a shit about her family. She isn’t grateful at all.

ClubhouseGift · 16/01/2023 16:32

Mynewhome · 16/01/2023 16:20

What makes you think she was in the position to save. Op only recently started work. Why did they offer for her to live there rent free ? They could have charged rent and she would have been able to claim houseing benefit but for what ever reason they chose not to.

She’s been rent free for two years. Apart from work there’s UC. She chose not to save.

Mynewhome · 16/01/2023 16:33

ClubhouseGift · 16/01/2023 16:32

She’s been rent free for two years. Apart from work there’s UC. She chose not to save.

You really think someone on uc can afford to save 🤣

SheilaFentiman · 16/01/2023 16:36

ClubhouseGift · 16/01/2023 16:32

Of course I would. She’s selfish, entitled and doesn’t give a shit about her family. She isn’t grateful at all.

Who do you think she ought to be grateful to? Both the GM and the POA have died.

Mynewhome · 16/01/2023 16:37

ClubhouseGift · 16/01/2023 16:32

She’s been rent free for two years. Apart from work there’s UC. She chose not to save.

They choose to let her be there rent free . They chose not to charge when they could have.

Its not about op doing the moral thing its about the system which is not her fault . She has no choice . She can't risk being homeless in the streets just ti he seen as doing the right thing.

Oh and the council can take action on illegal eviction.

SheilaFentiman · 16/01/2023 16:43

Monthly standard amount for UC is £325 ish, I think. Not sure if OP would get a health element as well. But not much to cover bills, food, clothing and savings.

And yes, she was offered a rent free stay, which offer she took up. She’s not unreasonable to have done so.

MichelleScarn · 16/01/2023 17:05

SheilaFentiman · 16/01/2023 16:21

Would you?

You would illegally evict your relative (niece, possibly)?

Who has been living in this property with the permission of the POA (possibly her great uncle, certainly also a relative of yours), paying bills and keeping the lights on?

Would you? Really?

Why do posters keep mentioning that the op was paying HER OWN bills like that this was a wonderful magnanimous thing to do?!

whowhatwerewhy · 16/01/2023 17:32

Unless I've missed something I don't think op has said who inherits the house, the estate might of been left to a charity.

Op has been fortunate to live there for two years but with the passing of her gran the executor now has to abide by the will .

Talia99 · 16/01/2023 17:36

ClubhouseGift · 16/01/2023 16:14

I’d do it anyway.

If OP couldn’t even manage to save any money whilst being rent free for two years she hasn’t got her shit together enough to fight it, and she would be extremely cheeky to do so anyway.

And any tenant would be delighted since the whopping damages you’d end up paying would serve as a nice down payment on a new place and they’d probably find watching you go to prison for committing the criminal offence of illegal eviction to be immensely funny.

SheilaFentiman · 16/01/2023 17:41

MichelleScarn · 16/01/2023 17:05

Why do posters keep mentioning that the op was paying HER OWN bills like that this was a wonderful magnanimous thing to do?!

That is in no way why I said it.

Without OP there, the house would have had some bills. My point is not that OP was magnanimous, that’s a straw man you made up. My point is that OP made an arrangement with the POA and stuck to it.

Disengaging now from your BS.

isitalloveryet · 16/01/2023 19:13

if you choose to fight eviction and stay as a tenant the new owner probably will have the right to charge you fair rent - if you can't afford to pay then they will legally be able to evict you for non payment

I would approach your local council and see if they can help rehouse you or see if you grown up children can offer you any support