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To not sell my home for the benefit of my stepkids?

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jaicobain · 07/01/2023 15:34

I was never able to have children of my own. I was with somebody for 20 years, had all the treatments, and only ever had miscarriages. He became abusive and I left in my mid-40s, that was that. I am lucky in that I bought my house before he came along. I’m 57 now, and have come to terms with not having DC, but it’s still a great source of sadness to me.

My 2 nieces were born in my 30s, and I adore them. They were a great comfort to me, I’ve always been close to my sister so as a result was close to them. I am their Godmother. Of course they couldn’t be a substitute to my own DC but we have such a close relationship. When they were teenagers, they moved in with me for a few months whilst Dsis struggled with depression. Then a couple of years later my elder niece moved back in for 4 months at age 17 due to rebellious behaviour that Dsis wasn’t coping with. They are now both brilliant young women, and both have babies. They aren’t particularly well-off, and have struggled with the cost of living recently. I’ve been very vocal of the fact that they will inherit my house. Maybe a mistake to tell them that but they are greatful and not entitled at all.

I am in great health and expect to be around for the forseeable, and have always planned to leave my house to my sister, or my nieces if she passes before me. My sister is younger than me, but has ill-health and chronic conditions that have worsened as of late. She is not at deaths door or anything but has told me full-well that she doubts she’ll make 70.

I have a husband now, married 5 years, I have moved in with him. I have a tenant in my property. The problem that has arisen is that he wants us to buy a holiday home in Spain, but doesn’t want to downsize his large Victorian house to fund it (worth £500,000+, bought in the 80s in an area that got gentrified) because he wants his 2 sons to inherit it. He is snobbish about the area of my house (one of the not so nice areas of the city, but it’s where I grew up and I’m fond of it!), and is incredibly vocal about it. He thinks I should ‘get rid’ of my house and buy us the holiday home with the money. I have asked him why he doesn’t just downsize his 4-bedroom, it’s just the 2 of us and his 4 granddaughter’s are pre-teens/teens so they don’t even come and stay anymore. And it’s always the same response, he wants his sons to inherit it and the hypothetical holiday home that he expects me to sell my beloved home to fund.

He actually said that since I don’t have DC and now live with him I don’t need the house. As somebody who tried for years to have kids, this hurt me a lot. He also fails to respect my close relationship with my nieces, and has actually said I should prioritise his adult kids over my 2 nieces. Prioritising his kids would mean selling my house to fund the holiday home so that he doesn’t have to downsize his big house that they are due to inherit.

I am finding the whole thing incredibly upsetting and I feel like he doesn’t respect me or my family. He’s made many a nasty comment about my sister’s mental health issues and has no sympathy for her physical health issues which he says are her own fault for smoking, it’s like her considers her and my nieces to just be worthless. I will add that the holiday home is all him, I am really not bothered and would rather just go on nice holidays around Europe without the stress of buying and maintaining a holiday home.

OP posts:
Wetblanket78 · 07/01/2023 17:48

He sounds controlling keep the house so you have somewhere to go to if you do decide to leave. He's expecting you to sacrifice your house for his kids. But he's not prepared to make a sacrifice for his own. For something he wants but you don't. He's a selfish t*at.

Dragonsmother · 07/01/2023 17:50

Don’t do it OP.
The house is also your security.
It sounds like you have things in your marriage that need to be addressed.
He is putting his own needs before yours.

Blondeshavemorefun · 07/01/2023 17:50

Hrtt

if you went to go abroad lots then sell your house and buy the holiday home. In your name. And when you did it goes to your nieces

if you don’t care about abroad , assume as dh house will go to his kids. Fair enough. Then your house will go to your nieces

dh sounds an arse sorry

GatoradeMeBitch · 07/01/2023 17:51

He is not concerned about your future at all is he? When he dies, whether that's within 10 years or whenever, his sons get both properties (which presumably also means he wants the holiday home in his name). So then where will you live? Maybe you're supposed to throw yourself on his funeral pyre...

He sounds like a greedy entitled man who doesn't care for you much and definitely doesn't care for your family. Getting his hands on your money was probably the plan from day one if in his own words he "wouldn't go near a woman without property".

If I were you I'd be seeing a lawyer and quietly making plans to move out. Don't stay within a family that only cares for how much money they can take from you. Keep your own property. It's honestly so much better to be on your own and around people who love you than married and miserable and harassed.

LexMitior · 07/01/2023 17:52

Good god, keep the house, get rid of this man.

LexMitior · 07/01/2023 17:52

Also just notes you are married. What a fool this man is, truly.

ButtonMoonLoon · 07/01/2023 17:52

Goodness, the more you post about him, the more he sounds simply horrible. I’m so sorry you are in this position.

I think you should get legal advice as soon as you can. Since you are married I think I’m right I’m saying that both your properties would be considered joint marital assets.
So. Legal advice.-Ducks in a row time, I’d say.

ImTheOnlyUpsyOne · 07/01/2023 17:54

How rude. Definitely don't sell your house if you don't want to.

TheWordHu88yIsMyPetHate · 07/01/2023 17:54

Sorry op but he sounds awful. I agree with pp that you seem to be in another abusive relationship.
I hope you can find a way out.
Wishing you and your family all the best x

Soothsayer1 · 07/01/2023 17:55

and has actually said I should prioritise his adult kids over my 2 nieces
well he would say that wouldnt he!
You should just laugh at him and refuse to engage further!
What a chancer!

MeridianB · 07/01/2023 17:56

He’s effectively saying ‘give me your house for my sons

Yup! It sounds more and more like real/potential emotional and financial abuse with your updates.

creaturecreep · 07/01/2023 17:56

Your DH sounds like an absolutely horrible person.

Is there anything legal in writing/in your will protecting your house so it would not automatically be considered a marital asset if you divorced/to ensure it would go to your nieces?

stopthebarking · 07/01/2023 17:57

Tbh, I'd probably leave him over this. You haven't been together that long, in the grand scheme of things. He sounds selfish and disrespectful of you (your family, your wishes, your origins). Even if he privately thinks little of your sister and nieces, he should care enough for you to keep his big mouth closed on the subject and respect your plans to leave your property to whomever you choose.

Separately, why in the hell should you want to leave anything to his adult children and their progeny? You didn't raise them; they aren't your kids or responsibility, and they will be well provided for by what he will leave them. I'd rather leave everything to a deserving stranger than be strong-armed into leaving it to his family, after this.

Watchamocauli · 07/01/2023 17:57

Make a will and that too quick. I sense desperation from him and maybe a pressure from his sons. Would they harm you for it? You are married so does he have right to your property?

Make a Clear Will mentioning your house and it's proceeds be left to your nieces. Make announcement in public even if you need to leave him.

Antst · 07/01/2023 17:57

Oh God. This has red flags fluttering wildly. DO NOT listen to him. That house is your security. Be very, very clear that you are not going to sell it, end of discussion. Tell him you will not discuss this further and leave the room if he tries.

You need to have the confidence to protect yourself here.

What if you sold it and he kicked you out? Just an insane idea. Don't let him do it.

Soothsayer1 · 07/01/2023 17:58

jaicobain · 07/01/2023 16:41

He makes me feel lesser for not having my own blood children to pass stuff on to. If I did have a child he wouldn’t dare suggest this, surely.

he's just pushing various buttons, pulling various levers to test which ones will get a reaction and make you feel bad so he can use them to control and manipulate you. The ones that work are the ones that he keeps pressing on, looking for weak points, where best to stick the knife in and twist it to weaken you so that you obey him

Soothsayer1 · 07/01/2023 18:01

he wants you and your property to become part of his empire, owned & controlled by him and his descendants

caringcarer · 07/01/2023 18:01

So OP, if he does before you he leaves his house entirely to his 2 kids? Where does he think you will love? Sounds like he does not care. Make a new will and leave to your nieces with lifetime interest to your sister. He can whistle for his holiday home.

ParrotsAteThemAll · 07/01/2023 18:05

You’re living in a man’s world now, surrounded by important men whose needs are more important than a woman’s
Of course he wants your money, what would a little woman spend it all on? Ribbons, pretty shoes and puppy dogs whereas an important man has was more serious things to spend it on.

Get rid now, he doesn’t respect you.

AcrossthePond55 · 07/01/2023 18:05

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time". He's shown you, believe him.

You need to see a solicitor ASAP about securing your house to your sister and/or nieces. And you need to do it 'right and tight' so that a divorce won't endanger their rights. You need to find out legally where you stand wrt any joint assets with that man as well as any other separate assets you may own as far as a divorce goes. Trust me, a man like that will be NO respecter of your property or financial future and will try to screw you in a divorce because 'his kids deserve it'.

I'd ask a solicitor about putting the house in a living trust (US term, but I'm sure there's a UK equivalent) for your nieces with you as trustee, to be followed by your sister as successor trustee in the event of your death, and adding a rider for life tenancy for yourself to be followed by a life tenancy for your sister (if she so chooses). But first I'd give your tenants proper legal notice and I'd quietly pack my little ditty bag and get the hell out of Dodge as soon as the legalities about your house are completed and the tenants are gone.

I have a relative in a similar situation. But he's trying to get her to sell her house 'so they can buy together' to insure that she has nowhere to go once she wises up to his controlling ways.

Icepinkeskimo · 07/01/2023 18:06

He’s arrogant, judgemental and greedy, (and that’s me being polite).
The comments and remarks about your sister must have felt like a dagger through your heart. That’s really upset me, it’s just nasty I couldn’t forgive if I was with someone with their cruel words about my nearest and dearest.
Hold onto your house, and don’t be bullied, I know you will take legal advice, I would also be looking at my future, with this man.
I wish only the best for you, and for you to smile each day.

TiddlesTheTiger · 07/01/2023 18:07

jaicobain · 07/01/2023 16:56

If I were to explain the situation to my nieces and put the house in their name now, I’m certain they would keep it as a home for me for the rest of my lifetime. DH would certainly divorce me.

DH would certainly divorce me

Think about that.
Your selfish H would divorce you for not handing over your property to his adult offspring.

Whatever happens, you will continue to be in an abusive relationship if you stay with this man.

Although you like the tenants, bear in mind that you can get your house back if you need it to live in .

Spect8 · 07/01/2023 18:08

Do you love him to bits?
Are you happy with him?
Do you want to stay married to him?

If he answer is NO to even one of the above questions, not to mind all three, well that is the basis upon which you make your decision.

Sleep on it, do not discuss with him about houses in Spain or whatever, he is not interested in you or your family, just his own and he has made that very clear.

Then get your ducks in a row, the first one being an appointment with a Shit Hot Lawyer specialising in divorce/family law. Do not go to the local firm that draws up Auntie Mary's will, you need to spend to save here, so go with the best advice you can afford.

Unless of course you want to stay with him and do it all by negotiation. Will that work for the rest of your married lives? Only you can answer that and whether or not you will be happy to wait for the next shoe to drop.

Soothsayer1 · 07/01/2023 18:08

But first I'd give your tenants proper legal notice and I'd quietly pack my little ditty bag and get the hell out of Dodge as soon as the legalities about your house are completed and the tenants are gone
this, play along & keep him calm for now, dont give him any indication of what you're planning, ducks in a row then fire with both barrels (metaphorically!) he's not exactly gonna be destitute without you so he cant complain!

AmandaHoldensLips · 07/01/2023 18:09

Don't sell your house.
Don't transfer it to your nieces.

Bear in mind that your marriage may not be forever, and you may well need to return to your own property in the future. Your house = your security.

(This happened to me and I would NEVER be without my own property/security.)

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