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if you were able to use voodoo dolls to hurt people would you?

209 replies

pillow56 · 04/01/2023 23:28

Not kill them or do serious harm but if you had the chance to do voodoo and get back at those who wronged toy would you do it and you get to watch them in a crystal ball in pain?

I know it sounds cruel but I would, I've being wronged so many times by bullies and it would delight me to get revenge.

OP posts:
MarieIVanArkleStinks · 06/01/2023 13:31

Gang rape is frequently touted as amongst the worst example, sometimes quite frivolously. I want to respond to this from the perspective of one who knows, because I was a victim of gang rape. I was also raped by one man in a separate incident, which I've only recognised in very recent years was actually also rape. I was fifteen on both occasions. I've spoken about this situation on MN before, largely because I don't believe silence in the face of this kind of crime benefits anyone other than the perpetrators.

It was a long time ago. The rapists got off scot-free, as so many rapists do. Their act messed with my head for many years. Do I actively wish them harm? No: time has enacted its own revenge. I've built a fantastic life for myself, largely on the back of an education I was capable of benefitting from as they were not. They are still the same pathetic losers they always were. (I knew all three of my rapists).

My father was a violent, alcoholic abuser who gave me concussion when I was in my mid-teens by slamming my head down a door. I ended with cPTSD. I did wish him harm, but only to the extent that I hoped he'd end up a sad, lonely old man. He didn't reach old age, but did experience a few years' loneliness before he left this planet.

Other than that, I didn't actively wish him harm but didn't shed a single tear when he died, either.

It's a trite cliche that the best revenge is to live well, and it really is. Another cliche - but cliches become cliches largely because they're true - is the one about drinking poison in the hope that someone else will die.

No one gets very long on this planet in the scheme of things. I refuse to waste my life in fantasies of revenge. That's giving others a power over me they simply don't merit.

Scalottia · 06/01/2023 13:50

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 06/01/2023 13:31

Gang rape is frequently touted as amongst the worst example, sometimes quite frivolously. I want to respond to this from the perspective of one who knows, because I was a victim of gang rape. I was also raped by one man in a separate incident, which I've only recognised in very recent years was actually also rape. I was fifteen on both occasions. I've spoken about this situation on MN before, largely because I don't believe silence in the face of this kind of crime benefits anyone other than the perpetrators.

It was a long time ago. The rapists got off scot-free, as so many rapists do. Their act messed with my head for many years. Do I actively wish them harm? No: time has enacted its own revenge. I've built a fantastic life for myself, largely on the back of an education I was capable of benefitting from as they were not. They are still the same pathetic losers they always were. (I knew all three of my rapists).

My father was a violent, alcoholic abuser who gave me concussion when I was in my mid-teens by slamming my head down a door. I ended with cPTSD. I did wish him harm, but only to the extent that I hoped he'd end up a sad, lonely old man. He didn't reach old age, but did experience a few years' loneliness before he left this planet.

Other than that, I didn't actively wish him harm but didn't shed a single tear when he died, either.

It's a trite cliche that the best revenge is to live well, and it really is. Another cliche - but cliches become cliches largely because they're true - is the one about drinking poison in the hope that someone else will die.

No one gets very long on this planet in the scheme of things. I refuse to waste my life in fantasies of revenge. That's giving others a power over me they simply don't merit.

This is a really good post (obviously not the things that have happened to you, PP; the men that did this to you are disgusting creatures), but I agree 100% with what you have said about revenge.

I apologise if I made gang rape sound trivial, that really was not my intention.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 06/01/2023 13:58

I apologise if I made gang rape sound trivial, that really was not my intention.

Sorry, I'm mainly commenting generally @Scalottia as this is something that tends to come up reasonably often. I didn't mean you in particular, and obviously, I have my own sensitivities on this topic.

I really do wish such violent assaults on women and girls were as rare as they should be. The extent of it only became really apparent to me with #MeToo, which was the trigger that sought me to recognize my cPTSD and seek help or treatment for it.

I've been a different woman since.

Thanks for your previous post - I do allow myself some moments of anger but I refuse to allow this to become all-consuming. But, yes. Disgusting creatures is precisely what they are.

GrolliffetheDragon · 06/01/2023 14:09

One person I'd be tempted to. Though I'd prefer it if I could use it to control him and make him go to the police and confess...

I'd not want to actually see any of it though.

amoobaa · 06/01/2023 14:15

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”

—Friedrich Nietzsche

Fathercrossmas · 06/01/2023 14:17

I would be tempted to create one of DC and put it in bed all night in an attempt to get them sleeping through!

pulledmuscle · 06/01/2023 14:18

PurpleButterflyWings · 04/01/2023 23:33

FFS, what am I reading on here?Confused NO I would NOT.

Exactly my thoughts too! Wtf is wrong with the rest of you evil specimens??

xogossipgirlxo · 06/01/2023 14:24

Wow, I'm surprised. I thought I'd say yes, but actually, no. Those who I really hate (like my "MIL" who did a lot of harm to DH and his siblings- I mean really horrible stuff that I cried when he told me) suffers enough- forgotten by world, by her children and whole family. If she died tomorrow, they would probably find out few weeks later after phone call from the police that she was lying dead in her flat, eaten by bugs. This is enough satisfaction to me.

SavoirFlair · 06/01/2023 14:38

Love how Mumsnet HQ delete a post about a traumatic experience with an au pair, because it could be “distressing” and “graphic”…

yet batshit silly, cruel posts like this one stay.

hmm, I wonder why? The best part of 300 posts in, the site is getting loads of traffic, and could easily be picked up by the Mail this one!

I mean. You’ve got an OP who is talking about torture. And loads chiming in describing how they would similarly torture another person.

slamwich · 06/01/2023 14:39

Now. Not for me

slamwich · 06/01/2023 14:40

Typo! Meant to say no, not for me

beachcitygirl · 06/01/2023 17:24

Someone once told me a delicious revenge wish.

She wished that every pound she lost would go on her horrible ex. She was on a relentless diet because he put her down & made her feel
Like shit.

How fab would that be?

Ladysodor · 06/01/2023 21:07

You make it sound like an exact science but it’s not, it’s superstitious twaddle. I can’t believe this would scare anyone.

IronicElf · 06/01/2023 21:13

I'm a witch. I could probably do something along these lines. But no.

I have an ex-friend who gaslighted me, bitched behind my back and lied about me, and made my PND 10 times worse. If I do a spell for her it is one of positivity. I hope she can stop being a narcissistic backstabbing lying bitch creating a wake of destruction behind her - which she then uses to lie to her next victim friends. I really wish she could just stop and be happy (but without me as a friend, once bitten and all that).

If I did something negative magical it would make me no better than her.

Intransigentcat · 06/01/2023 21:22

pulledmuscle · 06/01/2023 14:18

Exactly my thoughts too! Wtf is wrong with the rest of you evil specimens??

I'm also shocked at people saying they'd love to see someone scream in pain. That's horrific.

I suppose many regimes have and continue to use torture. Ive always assumed very few people would have that capacity to carry it out but from this thread it looks like I'm wrong.

ColdHandsHotHead · 06/01/2023 21:25

No. If someone is horrible to you, they're certain to be horrible to other people. Sooner or later it will catch up with them.

DiddyHeck · 06/01/2023 21:59

I'm a witch. I could probably do something along these lines. But no.

The same as everyone else in the world with a needle and thread then Confused

gfy · 06/01/2023 22:00

No, surely that doesn't make you much better than them ?

Emmamoo89 · 06/01/2023 22:06

The best revenge is for them to see you happy.

SwingandaPrayer · 06/01/2023 22:09

Most definitely not. In fact I can't think of anyone who would even be in my list. Inflicting pain on someone makes you as bad as them. I've never been "an eye for an eye" type of person anyway.

ILoveeCakes · 06/01/2023 22:13

I'd put its head up my back passage. I get some fun and they get the smell and taste. Double bubble!

mrsharrisgoestoparis · 06/01/2023 22:29

Maybe you're the problem and not the 16 others

WomanhoodIsABirthright · 06/01/2023 22:29

baublesandbreakdowns · 04/01/2023 23:37

Yeah, just a little poke in the ribs now and again.

I'd give them javelin arse.

WomanhoodIsABirthright · 06/01/2023 22:29

ILoveeCakes · 06/01/2023 22:13

I'd put its head up my back passage. I get some fun and they get the smell and taste. Double bubble!

😂😂😂

StarDolphins · 06/01/2023 22:34

Yes I would. No one that has hurt me personally but I would love to hurt animal abusers & paedophiles.

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