if you were able to use voodoo dolls to hurt people would you?

[pillow56]

Not kill them or do serious harm but if you had the chance to do voodoo and get back at those who wronged toy would you do it and you get to watch them in a crystal ball in pain?

I know it sounds cruel but I would, I've being wronged so many times by bullies and it would delight me to get revenge.

All these Outraged of Tunbridge Wells replies - you can't think of any things that one person could have done to another that could leave that person feeling like they would want revenge?

Nothing? Nothing that someone could have done to you, perhaps repeatedly done to you, maybe repeatedly done to you as a child, that doesn't leave you feeling that the best revenge is a good life? Nothing pops into your head beyond wanting to hurt someone makes you a psychopath?

I definitely would, I would have a long list!

Yes. Papa Legba is quite reasonable.

I think best revenge karma,😂 in life is an Arsehole type of person coming across sooner or later another Arsehole who treats them in a similar manner...

Same applies to Narastistic and or Users too

Yes I've got lots of people I'd like to see harmed to a degree, ranging from a hemorrhoid flare up to something more long term like limb loss/death. I'd only use it for people who've really pissed me off though, I tend to be very forgiving usually but there are certain acts I can't forgive or forget, at least when the perpetrator isn't even remorseful.

Absolutely not

In the blink of an eye - beginning with Putin.

No, an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

Plus, power corrupts. I don't think there is any way to use that kind of power without it damaging you as well. It's an own goal.

Sixteen people who have ‘wronged’ you and fantasizing about them screaming in pain? No, I don’t think like that. I feel it is abnormal.

Of course, if every one of those 16 people op mentions have murdered her close family members, she may be so damaged mentally that she cannot react normally - maybe if she explained what the 16 people have done to deserve her ideas of how she’d get pleasure from them screaming in pain I’d see how she got there.

And even if all those 16 people have hurt you and are the type of person who get pleasure from hurting others - now you’re that type of person too. Eaten up with fantasies of causing others pain. Getting pleasure from people’s pain.

The only reason I could think of for wanting to do that would be if someone seriously hurt/raped/killed my child. Then absolutely. Any other situation then absolutely not. I might have said different at 25 but at 45 I'd just stay away from them and get on with making my own life good.

No

Another fantasy would be a toxic person catching getting pin worms infestation up their Arse, from a public dirty toilet,and not being able to find blessed relief from this for some time, maybe for ever who knows

No I never understand people holding onto grudges and hurt.

Move on

I'm not talking about the op specifically.

Several people on this thread, myself included, have said yes.

People can have very good reason to wish harm on someone. To suggest that feeling, that emotion, automatically makes that person bad/evil/grudge holding/psychopathic etc is utterly failing to think even for a second the types of things someone could have gone through and may still be dealing with.

And it's not even like voodoo is real so we are talking a fantasy that is never actually going to come true anyway.

Sometimes people are stuck with things that have deeply hurt or damaged them and tbh thinking how it would feel to somehow be able to get 'revenge' is nowhere near the actual deeds done in reality to leave you with that feeling.

I think anger, bitterness, wanting revenge etc are very natural emotions and I do understand why people sometimes can't move on from them. But, based on my experience, I think they are very damaging to the person who is having them and in an ideal world we would all learn to leave them behind. But it is easier said than done, and whether people can do so must depend on lots of different factors.
I was badly injured in a car crash years ago, leaving me with life changing and permanent problems. At first I was very, very, angry with the driver who caused it but now I honestly bear him no ill will at all. In fact by the time he went to court I was pleased that though he was convicted, the magistrate was quite lenient as I did want him to learn from the experience but not for his life to be damaged like mine had been. He seemed to be quite a decent young man who had made an (admittedly really stupid) mistake and I was just unlucky to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Some people are surprised that I don't harbour a grudge, but I found it quite easy to forgive him as there was really nothing personal about it.
On the other hand, I still feel very bitter about quite a number of people involved in the aftermath. I had poor, and more to the point, unkind, treatment from some of the healthcare professionals involved for instance, which increased my suffering and disability both at the time and longer term. And my ex employers treated me appallingly. Probably illegally in fact, but I chose not to pursue that as I just didn't have the mental and physical energy for another battle. I can't really forgive them as it was personal, they knew exactly what they were doing, and could have done things very differently had they chosen to.
I don't lie awake at night imagining taking revenge any more, but I haven't come close to true forgiveness so I can well imagine how difficult it must be for people who have suffered worse things. I think they should seek therapy etc to try to get over it, for their own benefit, not that of the perpetrators, but I wouldn't judge someone who can't. I know that if I bumped into the other driver in the shops this afternoon I could have a civil conversation with him, genuinely wish him well and get on with my shopping. If I met my former line manager I would probably want to knife him and all my negative emotions would come right back, even after all this time. I wouldn't actually hurt him even if I knew I could get away with it, but I would want to for sure. And I have had therapy.
It's easy to say "move on" and of course that's the healthy thing, but it's not always easy to actually do it, even when you want to.

Wow, get some help.

No I wouldn't. And if I spent my days fantasising about inflicting pain on people I'd probably go to therapy.
It's funny which threads that get deleted here. Who knew voodoo torture was fine on MN

I didn’t suggest that a feeling or emotion of being angry with someone suggested psychopathy. I said that op’s pleasure in fantasising about a large group of people who have wronged her ‘screaming in pain’ for ‘as long as she wants’ suggests an unhealthy and possibly dangerous mindset.

If you are asking people to imagine voodoo dolls / black magic works, then you should also be able to imagine the unintended consequences of black magic.

If anyone I knew was even half heartedly considering messing around with voodoo dolls I would dump them out of my life. Or take them to the doctor if they were close to me and vulnerable.

I sometimes feel the impulse to kick megalomaniacs like Vladimir Putin up the arse and will indulge the fantasy for a moment or two, but that’s about it.

If anyone I knew was even half heartedly considering messing around with voodoo dolls I would dump them out of my life

I'd likely eye roll and laugh, you do know it's not real?

This.

I would gain zero pleasure from watching anyone in any kinds of pain, whether or not they had wronged me.

No because I think seeking revenge ultimately changes who you are. Do you want to become the sort of person that that revels in causing pain to others? How are you any different to your abuser / harm causer if you seek to cause physical harm and pain to them? If there are legitimate ways to seek redress then do so but seeking vengeance requires you to step outside of your ethics and values.

OP when would you know you had got sufficient revenge? How much harm would be enough to give you satisfaction?

@Kanaloa

Totally agree with your posts.