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Downton abbey Mandela effect?

143 replies

Didjesuspoop · 04/01/2023 21:07

This is such a small, insignificant thing but it’s really bugging me so just wondering if anyone else can remember the same thing! Ages ago I remember watching a trailer for downton abbey (I thought it could have been season 5) and the music over it was a female acoustic cover to the times they are a changing. I have searched high and low on YouTube and Google for this trailer and watched every trailer for every season of downton and that song does not appear in any of them! Anyone else?! Maybe I’m thinking of a totally different tv program or maybe I’m remembering wrong?

YABU - I’ve never seen that trailer with that song
YANBU - I remember this trailer! (Please help me find it)

OP posts:
Keyansier · 07/01/2023 18:35

Not trying to stir up an argument but I literally don't understand the trajectory of this thread. I offered a contribution for what I thought the OP might be referring to, and then made another post that said "that's not what a cover version is" when another poster described what they thought a cover version was, and got jumped down my throat (unnecessarily, IMO when reading it back through). I'm not mansplaining anything - I didn't even explain anything.

bringmetheheadofpastaalfredo · 07/01/2023 18:47

No, the other poster explained something, and then got accused of mansplaining, even though they were a woman. I think the other person was just confused who she was talking to?

The thing the op was describing is not at all the mandela effect.

PriamFarrl · 07/01/2023 18:49

LahLahLoopsy · 07/01/2023 18:28

We all know that, it wasn't disputed. It wasn't even mentioned.

An instrumental is not a song. The first person to sing a song is not doing a cover, are they? It's not a cover version when the original composer adds words to his own creation.

I thought originally that you were saying that some random woman singing ‘The Times they Are A-Changing’ wasn’t a cover. I see now that I was wrong and you were referring to something else in the thread rather than the OPs question.

Keyansier · 07/01/2023 18:55

bringmetheheadofpastaalfredo · 07/01/2023 18:47

No, the other poster explained something, and then got accused of mansplaining, even though they were a woman. I think the other person was just confused who she was talking to?

The thing the op was describing is not at all the mandela effect.

I thought that too but then the other poster Jourdan specifically mentioned my name and said I'm a man (which I am) and said I was mansplaining (but I don't feel like I did).

RiceRiceBaby16 · 07/01/2023 19:46

Wow what a thread 😂 this is like being at a party full of drunk uni students trying to prove their intelligence to each other😂 hopefully this doesn't offend anyone. I have been thoroughly entertained, though.

Keyansier · 07/01/2023 20:12

RiceRiceBaby16 · 07/01/2023 19:46

Wow what a thread 😂 this is like being at a party full of drunk uni students trying to prove their intelligence to each other😂 hopefully this doesn't offend anyone. I have been thoroughly entertained, though.

Hmm... 😂

BigMadAdrian · 07/01/2023 20:19

Op - I think I remember this! I can't remember whether it was a woman singing, or the particular arrangement, but I think I remember it! At the end of the trailer Robert and Tom shake hands at a cricket match, I'm guessing in order to illustrate the point that times are changing.

Letitrainletitrainletitrain · 07/01/2023 20:47

BigMadAdrian · 07/01/2023 20:19

Op - I think I remember this! I can't remember whether it was a woman singing, or the particular arrangement, but I think I remember it! At the end of the trailer Robert and Tom shake hands at a cricket match, I'm guessing in order to illustrate the point that times are changing.

you are a genius

www.google.com/search?q=doewnton+abbey+series+3+episode+8+trailet&oq=doewnton+abbey+series+3+episode+8+trailet&aqs=chrome..69i57.9096j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&chrome_dse_attribution=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:781fd1b6,vid:_LOZwky27NM

trailer for season 3 episode 8 there's a woman singing about the times they are a changing

Letitrainletitrainletitrain · 07/01/2023 20:48

@Didjesuspoop I am genuinely excited to know if the trailer linked to above is the one you meant, as this had been bugging me 😂

BigMadAdrian · 07/01/2023 20:56

YES! Awesome job!

Jourdain11 · 07/01/2023 21:57

@Keyansier I never mentioned your username, in fact I deliberately tried not to. I also didn't mean to jump down your throat and I'm sorry it came across like that. I just thought what you wrote seemed a little patronising.

It was me who got snarked at and called thick, however. Repeatedly.

An instrumental is not a song. The first person to sing a song is not doing a cover, are they? It's not a cover version when the original composer adds words to his own creation.

The music is the same! And I've no idea if the composer set the words, but it's still an arrangement of the original regardless of who did it. And I never said an instrumental was a song.

rattlinbog · 07/01/2023 23:14

@Didjesuspoop you've got to tell us if that's one!

EmmaEmerald · 07/01/2023 23:17

Oh thank goodness!

I was convinced it was a later series so never even tried season 3.

I love a happy ending 😍

Create10 · 07/01/2023 23:26

@Didjesuspoop

Here you go. Promotion for the end of Season 3.

https://www.hypable.com/downton-abbey-3x08-new-pictures-and-promo/

Create10 · 07/01/2023 23:27

Oops, I see someone else has already found it.

Keyansier · 08/01/2023 13:39

Jourdain11 · 07/01/2023 21:57

@Keyansier I never mentioned your username, in fact I deliberately tried not to. I also didn't mean to jump down your throat and I'm sorry it came across like that. I just thought what you wrote seemed a little patronising.

It was me who got snarked at and called thick, however. Repeatedly.

An instrumental is not a song. The first person to sing a song is not doing a cover, are they? It's not a cover version when the original composer adds words to his own creation.

The music is the same! And I've no idea if the composer set the words, but it's still an arrangement of the original regardless of who did it. And I never said an instrumental was a song.

No, sorry @Jourdain11 you don't get to retrospectively retract and make out like something else happened. You leapt on my (what I thought was a) perfectly innocent comment out of nowhere. These are the posts:

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:23
Well, I don't know - who do I think did the original? I don't know the performer's name, but since it's played on a piano, a pianist?
It's a vocal cover of an instrumental track, no?

Keyansier · 05/01/2023 00:28
Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:23
Well, I don't know - who do I think did the original? I don't know the performer's name, but since it's played on a piano, a pianist?
It's a vocal cover of an instrumental track, no?
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That's not what a cover is.

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:33
Keyansier · 05/01/2023 00:28
That's not what a cover is.
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Would you kindly like to explain to me what a cover is? My tiny little inadequate female brain obviously hasn't grasped the concept.

Keyansier · 05/01/2023 00:38
Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:33
Would you kindly like to explain to me what a cover is? My tiny little inadequate female brain obviously hasn't grasped the concept.
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Why are you making out what I said was a sexist comment? What you wrote is literally not a cover.

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:42
It's the generally accepted definition of a cover! It's a simple concept that I grasp perfectly well, thank you. I can also grasp the simple concepts of people mansplaining and being patronising, and I've had enough of both for today.

Keyansier · 08/01/2023 13:41

I am thrilled that someone found what the OP as referencing (I think?) Vindicated, OP! Smile

Jourdain11 · 08/01/2023 14:08

For God's sake, I didn't "make out like something else happened", I actually apologised. I won't bother to do that again, however. And I don't see how you to retract something non-retrospectively...

JennyJone · 08/01/2023 14:17

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:03

Isn't it the Did I Make the Most of Loving You? cover? Mary-Jess Cleaverland? I think it was used in a promo but maybe never a trailer...

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dstnv4nUT0Ro&ved=2ahUKEwjRz_OPkK_8AhXPglwKHciMBf0Qz40FegQILhAI&usg=AOvVaw1_DsRDjqjkL-dQ-NRcwg4I

Gives me a lump in my throat

Keyansier · 08/01/2023 18:27

Jourdain11 · 08/01/2023 14:08

For God's sake, I didn't "make out like something else happened", I actually apologised. I won't bother to do that again, however. And I don't see how you to retract something non-retrospectively...

You come across as quite entitled IMO. Seeking validation upon for which you were wrong in the first place. There is no way you (or I, or anyone) can read our exchange I posted above and think that you were right in the way you spoke to me.

RiceRiceBaby16 · 08/01/2023 18:34

Waiting for OP to confirm if the song / trailer is the correct one!

Letitrainletitrainletitrain · 08/01/2023 18:39

Keyansier · 08/01/2023 18:27

You come across as quite entitled IMO. Seeking validation upon for which you were wrong in the first place. There is no way you (or I, or anyone) can read our exchange I posted above and think that you were right in the way you spoke to me.

What you are ignoring though is between your posts there was another poster repeatedly asserting that Jourdain didn't understand a single word of English that she (I'm assuming she) was speaking.

In the context of several very rude posters on the thread its quite possible in the moment she felt like you were adding on to a pile on about a very pedantic criticism of a word she use that had absolutely no bearing on the point of the thread.

Keyansier · 08/01/2023 18:51

Letitrainletitrainletitrain · 08/01/2023 18:39

What you are ignoring though is between your posts there was another poster repeatedly asserting that Jourdain didn't understand a single word of English that she (I'm assuming she) was speaking.

In the context of several very rude posters on the thread its quite possible in the moment she felt like you were adding on to a pile on about a very pedantic criticism of a word she use that had absolutely no bearing on the point of the thread.

No, I personally think (and @Jourdain11 can correct this if I'm wrong) @Jourdain11 saw my name and automatically accused me of mansplaining, perhaps because of a previous thread. I don't want to go into it because it will feel like mansplaining, lol, but all of the conversation as it happened has been posted earlier in this thread. All I said was: "that's not what a cover is", which triggered an onslaught from @Jourdain11 towards me.

HitMeWithAHotNoteAndWatchMeBounce · 08/01/2023 18:52

Keyansier · 08/01/2023 18:27

You come across as quite entitled IMO. Seeking validation upon for which you were wrong in the first place. There is no way you (or I, or anyone) can read our exchange I posted above and think that you were right in the way you spoke to me.

Nobody cares. Take your bickering to PM.

Really glad the OP was vindicated and the rude dickheads on this thread were proved to be wrong.

Letitrainletitrainletitrain · 08/01/2023 18:57

Keyansier · 08/01/2023 18:51

No, I personally think (and @Jourdain11 can correct this if I'm wrong) @Jourdain11 saw my name and automatically accused me of mansplaining, perhaps because of a previous thread. I don't want to go into it because it will feel like mansplaining, lol, but all of the conversation as it happened has been posted earlier in this thread. All I said was: "that's not what a cover is", which triggered an onslaught from @Jourdain11 towards me.

Just because you personally think that doesn't make my post wrong.