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Downton abbey Mandela effect?

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Didjesuspoop · 04/01/2023 21:07

This is such a small, insignificant thing but it’s really bugging me so just wondering if anyone else can remember the same thing! Ages ago I remember watching a trailer for downton abbey (I thought it could have been season 5) and the music over it was a female acoustic cover to the times they are a changing. I have searched high and low on YouTube and Google for this trailer and watched every trailer for every season of downton and that song does not appear in any of them! Anyone else?! Maybe I’m thinking of a totally different tv program or maybe I’m remembering wrong?

YABU - I’ve never seen that trailer with that song
YANBU - I remember this trailer! (Please help me find it)

OP posts:
Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:23

BrownEyedGhoul · 05/01/2023 00:19

How IS it a cover? Of what? Who do you think did the original?

Well, I don't know - who do I think did the original? I don't know the performer's name, but since it's played on a piano, a pianist?

It's a vocal cover of an instrumental track, no?

BrownEyedGhoul · 05/01/2023 00:25

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:21

@BrownEyedGhoul Do you know the meaning of the term 'Mandela Effect' (not 'affect')? Because it's literally, as you would say, what the OP is describing!

I do actually, and no, it is not at all what the OP is describing. Not even slightly.

One person who has misrembered one thing is not, literally, figuratively, or in any other sense, the mandela effect.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 05/01/2023 00:26

Dolly's braces. That is all.

But OP if you're intrigued go to Reddit on the Retconned board and ask there. They're not allowed to diss you on that Subreddit 😘

BrownEyedGhoul · 05/01/2023 00:27

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:23

Well, I don't know - who do I think did the original? I don't know the performer's name, but since it's played on a piano, a pianist?

It's a vocal cover of an instrumental track, no?

No dear, thats not what a cover is. A composer wrote it. He later asked someone else to write lyrics for it, and someone sang them. They are the original artist of the song. It's not a cover.

Keyansier · 05/01/2023 00:28

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:23

Well, I don't know - who do I think did the original? I don't know the performer's name, but since it's played on a piano, a pianist?

It's a vocal cover of an instrumental track, no?

That's not what a cover is.

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:32

It's not the original. The accompaniment and intro / playouts, plus other thematic material is changed. I suppose you could call it am arrangement but it's not a straight transcription. IDK if the composer made the arrangement, but if he didn't then it's a recording of a previously recorded song by someone other than the original artist or composer, therefore a vocal cover.

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:33

Keyansier · 05/01/2023 00:28

That's not what a cover is.

Would you kindly like to explain to me what a cover is? My tiny little inadequate female brain obviously hasn't grasped the concept.

LahLahLoopsy · 05/01/2023 00:37

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:33

Would you kindly like to explain to me what a cover is? My tiny little inadequate female brain obviously hasn't grasped the concept.

We've all got female brains most likely and are well aware what a cover is. What has your sex got to do with the fact that you don't grasp a simple concept?

Keyansier · 05/01/2023 00:38

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:33

Would you kindly like to explain to me what a cover is? My tiny little inadequate female brain obviously hasn't grasped the concept.

Why are you making out what I said was a sexist comment? What you wrote is literally not a cover.

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:42

It's the generally accepted definition of a cover! It's a simple concept that I grasp perfectly well, thank you. I can also grasp the simple concepts of people mansplaining and being patronising, and I've had enough of both for today.

LahLahLoopsy · 05/01/2023 00:44

What are you talking about? How are women mansplaining to you? Do you know what any of the words you use mean?

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:47

Which words do you feel I don't understand?

LahLahLoopsy · 05/01/2023 00:51

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:47

Which words do you feel I don't understand?

I literally just told you that you don't understand the words "cover" and "mansplain".
Did you not understand any of the words I used to tell you?

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:53

You haven't actually explained why or how my comprehension of those words are incorrect.

LahLahLoopsy · 05/01/2023 00:56

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 00:53

You haven't actually explained why or how my comprehension of those words are incorrect.

Yes I have. See above when I asked you how you thought it possible for a woman to mansplain, that was clearly me explaining how your comprehension of that word is incorrect.

For clarity, this is me explaining to you how your comprehension of almost all the words appear to be incorrect.

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 01:03

No, that's an example of you explaining how my understanding of one word was incorrect. And in actual fact, it wasn't.

Here are some more words to consider:

Unkind
Unnecessary
Rude
Superior
Vindictive

I may not speak English as my first language, but I understand the definitions of all of them quite well.

PinkArt · 05/01/2023 01:22

What an exhausting thread!
OP I'm might be Mandela-ing with you but it definitely rings a bell. Perhaps when there was the annual suggestion of Violet passing? Or as they entered the 20s or something?
Can't remotely help with finding the song though!

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 01:24

Maybe it was a US trailer or something? Or, as a PP suggested, a fan video.

Letitrainletitrainletitrain · 05/01/2023 01:26

BrownEyedGhoul · 04/01/2023 23:40

You are thinking of the Crown, whether you agree or not. Downtown Abbey is set in the 1920s, there is no way any official trailer or advert featured a 1960s song. Didn't happen.

The Crown, however, used the song for a trailer for the series that was......set in the 1960's.

Human memory is very inaccurate. Human arrogance, on the other hand, knows no bounds. You simply misremembered, no need for the silly Mandela affect nonsense

Season 1 of downton abbey used Every breath you take for the trailer so a more modern song than the era the series is set in isn't that out there

that said I cannot find that song in any trailer for downton abbey to be dair

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 01:27

PinkArt · 05/01/2023 01:22

What an exhausting thread!
OP I'm might be Mandela-ing with you but it definitely rings a bell. Perhaps when there was the annual suggestion of Violet passing? Or as they entered the 20s or something?
Can't remotely help with finding the song though!

And I'm sorry I've been one of the exhausting people, but I don't like it when people are gratuitously rude and nasty to an OP who's started a perfectly harmless thread on a lighthearted topic!

Jourdain11 · 05/01/2023 01:30

Letitrainletitrainletitrain · 05/01/2023 01:26

Season 1 of downton abbey used Every breath you take for the trailer so a more modern song than the era the series is set in isn't that out there

that said I cannot find that song in any trailer for downton abbey to be dair

In one of the Christmas specials, a character uses the phrase "Hobson's Choice" - it's set 2 years before the play was premiered! Plus Mary's Turk should be an Ottoman diplomat rather than a Turkish one. So it's not entirely devoid of anachronisms as a programme full stop!

Robets · 05/01/2023 01:49

Didjesuspoop · 04/01/2023 23:34

@Nagado i remember the tune perfectly but I’d break Shazam if I tried it! 🤣 just going to have to be one of life’s mysteries!

Is it times they are a changing cover by Susan calloway?

Robets · 05/01/2023 01:50

Robets · 05/01/2023 01:49

Is it times they are a changing cover by Susan calloway?

Example on this video

ashitghost · 05/01/2023 02:01

DM Jessica Fellowes on Instagram. She’s supposed to be the expert on DA, with unrivalled knowledge.

Dita73 · 05/01/2023 03:23

I would imagine it’s the Scala Choir

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