Are they all hiding in a fucking fridge?

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The government? Where is the leadership? The reassurance that the problem is being addressed with urgency? Cobra meetings? Horrendous stories coming out of A&E departments right now.

Steve Barclay, the Health Secretary today announced on twitter that people should download the Couch to 5k app to reduce pressure on the NHS.

twitter.com/stevebarclay/status/1609957311610556416?s=61&t=rHTkCD1w_H9OmH9UB2E4UQ

Do your fucking job, Steve. And Rishi, show some leadership. You bloody wanted this job so badly, where have you gone?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64142614

This embarrasses me. But it will be a selection of our society. There are many who don't believe that. However, it is classic fascist behaviour to use inward immigration as a reason for things going wrong - basically fear mongering.

Apologies. The pay rise for next year is advised to be at a level which would mean 2%, below the rate of inflation, so the government want another pay cut next year for NHS staff. The independent pay review bodies do whatever the government tell them to, then the government pretend that they are being fair when they 'accept their recommendations in full'.

www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jan/01/nhs-unions-2-pay-rise-next-year-could-mean-more-strikes

The problem is that we have an ageing population who don't want to pay more tax (or in some cases can't afford any more tax). You get the 'I paid NI all my life' argument if you raise it. And oldies vote, so politicians don't want to piss them off.

Brexit has cut the supply of cheap labour so everything is costing more.

Younger generations can't afford to pay more tax because of student loans, housing costs, childcare costs, cost of living.

Something's going to have to give, and it's probably going to be inheritance tax. But that will not go down well with the electorate, so politicians are desperately scrabbling around for something else, like telling people to start jogging. Evidently they are more prepared to accept nanny state stuff than taxing the unearned wealth of boomers.

And with the NHS, the Tories definitely want to make it so bad that people are prepared to accept privatisation. It's disaster capitalism.

Deafening silence from the Welsh and Scottish government. Germany, Spain, France, Portugal etc also having a crisis healthcare wise.

It's bad news all over

ED/AMU nurse. Literally on my knees.

I am travelling to my "third world" homeland to get surgery this year. I will be paying for it so not comparable to the NHS, but still.... Many of my foreign friends doing the same.

What are you talking about?! This doesn't sum it up at all. Whilst people do need to learn how to manage minor health issues themselves the BIGGEST problems are no social care and low wages/impossible workloads meaning NHS medical staff leaving in droves.

Rubbish, show us the evidence EU countries have 4 day waits for a hospital bed or 15 hr waits for an Ambulance?

You can't because its not happening, just more Tory lies.

@haveyouopenedyourbowelstoday I am so sorry. Please know how valued you are .

This.

We don't appear to have functioning government.

You could get it here if you paid for it..

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Where we live in north London, we are within 20 minutes of four different hospitals. From what local press is saying they are not overwhelmed in the way it's being nationally reported about other areas.

North London sounds like a good bet .

It's cheaper and better in my home country though. And better aftercare if I need it.

Well it is our job to worry about our own health. Of course it is. We're not babies that can't look after ourselves.

No one is suggesting jogging. Much better to go for a walk every day. And no it wouldn't take years. People have reversed pre-diabetes and even actual diabetes in a few months.

The NHS also needs to be resolved but it's not true that we don't have any responsibility for our own fitness.

Well of course it is when you're exploiting "3rd world" salaries.

So very true.

No one is suggesting jogging.

Literally in the OP, the Health Secretary has suggested that the public download the couch to 5k app and start running to 'reduce pressure on the NHS'. The link is there.

Just to be clear, that’s 3 hours over the target of what’s considered an acceptable standard of care. 7 hours in A&E is a failure.

I have a disabled toddler who had to be blue lighted into hospital twice last winter due to respiratory issues caused by essentially colds. This winter, if and when it happens, I don’t know if an ambulance will come.

It is terrifying.

I'm not sure we're sitting on a throne of superiority there when we have people using foodbanks and warm hubs.

What does critical incident mean?

Have they cancelled all non emergency surgery and treatment in order to concentrate the efforts into a&e? Does this even work? Can non a&e staff work a&e.

As winter happens every year is this calendared in as a time to ensure the flow into a&e is managed?

Do they allow leave at this critical time?

What staff sickness level monitoring is done and what do they do to manage sickness?

Could they employ more staff (not via agencies) ? Would banning all agency staff mean for a while there were staffing issues but people would come back and work directly?

Could they review shift patterns to make the working week more pleasurable for staff? Reducing hours and altering shift patterns to ensure peak times are managed with more staff. This would benefit everyone from patients to staff.

More radical ideas could be paid for training with service ties for nurses and staff.
Did they used to train nurses entirely on wards using them.as HCA to start?

The NHS is 24/7/365. Staff are needed across all of this in varying numbers. But peak times will have been observed and measured for years with expectations of peak flu etc.

The Tories claimed they would fix social care , recruit many more doctors and nurses and build 40 new hospitals. In reality they want to privatise large parts of the system so they can make money from it. Many Tory MPs have active interests in private healthcare companies

according to the British Medical Association (BMA)

Remember this is like asking the RMT if they think train drivers need a 30% pay rise. Yes the NHS is in a mess but the BMA are not impartial commentators - their whole raison d’etre is get better deals for their members.

In 2008 the BMA voted restrict the number of places at medical schools to avoid “overproduction of doctors” which might impact on their limited career opportunities. They also agreed on a complete ban on opening new medical schools. This despite the fact that the majority of new donors registered with the GMC are now trained outside the UK.

exploiting? I have been given a one year wait time here and am in pain. What would you have me do? Add to the NHS waitlist? Go bankrupt paying for private?

You have some very weird notions about salaries outside the UK. Doctors are treated better than here, and not so overworked certainly. I should know. My dad was a doctor.

If you're not capable of jogging then obviously don't jog. But it doesn't take away the fact that people need to look after their own health and fitness. On top of that we need a functioning Government that can run a country in a grown up way instead of a load of toddlers that are running things to get what they can out of their position. Both are true.