Are they all hiding in a fucking fridge?

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The government? Where is the leadership? The reassurance that the problem is being addressed with urgency? Cobra meetings? Horrendous stories coming out of A&E departments right now.

Steve Barclay, the Health Secretary today announced on twitter that people should download the Couch to 5k app to reduce pressure on the NHS.

twitter.com/stevebarclay/status/1609957311610556416?s=61&t=rHTkCD1w_H9OmH9UB2E4UQ

Do your fucking job, Steve. And Rishi, show some leadership. You bloody wanted this job so badly, where have you gone?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64142614

YANBU the country is in a total state. Brave leadership is what we need. Stop the PR stunts and trying to be everyone’s mate Rushi and start to take charge.

OR it's as if this government is shit, and with a habit of disappearing when the going gets tough. Johnson in a fridge, and then on holiday all summer as the energy crisis was looming. Truss and Kwarteng disappearing when their budget went to shit. Now it's Sunak's turn to dodge tricky questions.

Sunak has form for disappearing though. He's media shy. Ditto with the Welsh first minister. Don't know about Sturgeon.

Have they still not made any meaningful comment? I've not had the news on today. Too depressing.

Sturgeon's Parliament have been too busy working through the night to push through the gender recognition act. Top priority here.

Steve Barclay said they're putting more money into the NHS and social care over the next two years, which is obviously good, but doesn't solve the immediate problem.

twitter.com/stevebarclay/status/1610374449047691275?s=61&t=Rfq0L4p2x2K_iVswLEO-LQ

Ah. The long promised social care money. I've been a care manager for 20 years and I'm yet to see it!

And Sunak's face is on the front of the Times tomorrow promising.....compulsory maths education till 18 for all students.

Which he knows won't happen because the Smith review the government commissioned into post-16 mathematics in 2017 said it couldn't happen because the country didn't have enough maths teachers, and it still doesn't.

I can imagine Sunak sat in the back of the car with his spads throwing around policy ideas they could use to avoid talking about the NHS.

Fucksake. He'll be praising the quiet bat people next.

Sturgeon is only media shy when she is being held to account on their many fuck ups. That when John swinney gets wheeled out to face the music.

Drakeford tests positive for covid whenever he's in hot water to avoid the Senedd 😅

YANBU, the government are INVISIBLE

😂😂😂It’s a shame Tory Brexiteers didn’t realise that when they acted to exacerbate our situation against the advice of the vast majority of the rest of the global village. Brexit was a fuck up of an idea for the UK most of all, but also for the EU as a whole. It did nothing but harm at a time when there was enough shit going on in the world already. Stupid fuckers.

Still, so long as the rest of the world is suffering, it’s OK for the UK to be suffering worse, apparently. At least we’re excelling at something. Let’s keep making ourselves feel better by focusing on everyone else’s problems. If only we were still in the EU, we could keep blaming the EU for causing it and claiming that if we only left the EU, we would be much better off. 🤣

If I were Rishi, I'd be hiding too.

I mean, what can they say that will help?!

Go us, we've got world-beating A&E queue times?

Maybe they could get David Beckham in the queue to add glamour? Deflect attention from the queue by having Holly and Phil jump it?

🤣🤣🤣

When will Mumsnet have a “like” button?

Thats equally depressing, on Sky the other night, a health expert said that taking into account austerity, inflation and the very low wages, the amount needed to sort out social care is £40 billion.

Govt comes ups with 14bn, with health, they do the min.

On the EU & Brexit, EU health workers don't come here any more because that can only stay for 3 or 5 years, have to pay '000s in visa/health insurance costs and have significant savings per person and its difficult to bring in partners/children

On the other hand, that same worker can go to Germany or ROI etc without any of these barriers.

oh @justasking111 the 111 service is in crisis too, 33% of calls for help go unanswered!

Oh and now studying maths to 18 is a priority.🙄

If he thinks that’s going to distract us all from 500 extra deaths a week then he’s more stupid than I thought! 😡

Things are no better in SNP Scotland or in Northern Ireland. Don't know about Wales. This isn't a Tory problem, all the UK governments have not been planning ahead wrt health and social care.

This is a problem of global issues, Brexit, austerity and money wasted on changing structures and procedures for the worse at the same time as imposing austerity, then just wasting money generally. Big changes can’t be made on a shoestring. This is therefore mainly a Tory problem, because they were the most enthusiastic proponents of the exacerbation of the problems. Even the global issues were the result of behaviours fully supported by the Tories - low regulation and low oversight of the the financial sector and massive rewards for bad behaviour.

Indeed. Covid and Brexit have't helped but this is the boomer demogrpahic time bomb people have been warning about for years. It's here and it is exploding all over the NHS.

We have, and will continue to have, many more eldery and sick people to deal with. The baby boom generation are literally larger than the two generations below them. We cannot continue to expect working people to continue to fund all this from tax on incomes. There needs to be a drastic change in funding and delivery of health and social care or this will just get worse.

There also needs to be a shift to promote preventative medicine. Older people of course get more sucepitable to falls but there are things people can do, starting in middle age, to strengthen bone density, strengthen muscles and improve balance - load bearing exercise, gentle yoga or Tai Chi.

I don't understand this argument, Scotland NI Wales are not independent countries, they cannot control their borders or have different immigration policies to attract in EU health workers.
Wales in particular is a bit of a retirement destination for the English, they can't restrict this.

For example NI and Scotland didn't support Brexit but had to go along with it, we are no longer an attractive destination for EU staff.
The Tories removed nurse bursaries, Wales and NI can't alter that.

We are one UK and are governed by the Tories as such.

Yes very obvious Govts haven't planned for health (or rather choose not too) but policy/blame for this in the UK is driven by Westminster.