Are they all hiding in a fucking fridge?

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The government? Where is the leadership? The reassurance that the problem is being addressed with urgency? Cobra meetings? Horrendous stories coming out of A&E departments right now.

Steve Barclay, the Health Secretary today announced on twitter that people should download the Couch to 5k app to reduce pressure on the NHS.

twitter.com/stevebarclay/status/1609957311610556416?s=61&t=rHTkCD1w_H9OmH9UB2E4UQ

Do your fucking job, Steve. And Rishi, show some leadership. You bloody wanted this job so badly, where have you gone?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64142614

None of which are able to give any examples of Brexit benefits whatsoever.

I may just do that (10 yrs time, I mean)

Back to the original OP's question though?

Where the hell is our government, while the NHS is falling apart?

Oh fuck off @endlesscraziness i pay £13 pounds a WEEK for Nexium and i pay for my own mini Pill (Hana from Boots) at £20 for a three month supply precisely so i dont have to deal with our surgery We no longer have a Lloyds They went. So now fucking work out what im saving the NHS

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!

Immigration is helping the NHS crumble; Brexit lost us tons of well qualified, excellent nurses and doctors as well as carers for social care

The government is fighting with itself, still. Rishi is powerless really, I think anyway; swivels vs reality and he’s there trying to juggle it all.

And he’ll fail.

they have been out and about today.

But its the same old 'We will not give in on pay'

Its all to do with Covid and Ukraine, whihc is fine but why is the UK suffering so much worse than other European countries?

The media, not even Ch4 are digging up the evidence and challenging the Govt on their statements 'its all countries' - its not.
They are coping well.

I ve a place in France and know both Spain and France very well.

But apparently as the NHS is fucked because of people like me perhaps i should stop doing those things eh

Re negotiating our own trade deals.
In fairness, I don't think anyone said they wouldn't be shit trade deals, just that we could negotiate them ourselves. Speaking of shit, what's our water quality like now?

See thats the trouble with using others perceived shortcomings to virtue signal when you are on a chat board and know very little about them It can backfire.

And as for borders, we are now controlling our own borders, this is what that looks like.

This what my DD says too.... she handed in her notice today.

Just a year in the NHS and she will move to Australia, i have felt so sorry for her these last few months, the stress/workload is fucking unbelievable.

She cannot do her job because of no staff... no social care!
Despite newly qualified she often finds herself in what most people would call supervisory and management roles.

just in case the previous one gets deleted

i pay £13 pounds a WEEK for Nexium and i pay for my own mini Pill (Hana from Boots) at £20 for a three month supply precisely so i dont have to deal with our surgery We no longer have a Lloyds They went. So now fucking work out what im saving the NHS

Ooh look, a nice side by side comparison of the NHS inside and outside of the EU by the honest folk from Leave EU.

If only the NHS was as 'bad' now as it was in the video showing how it was when we were in the EU.

noblegiraffe
Like this Vote Leave video suggesting that A&E would be overcrowded within the EU and lovely and fast if we left the EU

I've just watched the video - they don't suggest A&E would be overcrowded - they say it's already at breaking point (2016). In the text they repeat the word "could" several times and "spend our money on our priorities, like the NHS." Vote Leave was a cross-party campaign, including the Labour Party's biggest individual donor. Jeremy Corbyn promised to spend an extra £37bn on the NHS in 2017.

Yesterday I read that 9,500 NHS staff were off sick with Covid - I guess Vote Leave hadn't factored in a global pandemic when they produced the video.

In terms of inflation - the average across the EU is higher than the UK. In October the Netherlands reached nearly 17% and Hungary was 23% in November. France has the advantage of most of its electrical generation being nuclear so not so sensitive to oil prices or restrictions.

I was in Meadowhall shopping centre today.
Guess how many people were wearing face masks? Yep. That would be JUST ME. It's not hard, folks, to protect ourselves & others. Covid rates are going up. Flu admissions are going up. Not a bloody mask in sight.
I was just commenting on another thread about taking reponsibility for our own health.
Blame the Govt as much as you like, but HELP a little!!

Do you mean emigration? We shouldn’t have been relying on so many foreign trained doctors and nurses - we should have been training more in the UK for decades (ie this is a failure of Tory, Tory/LD, and Labour governments). Immigration is putting greater pressure on the NHS. But given we have had higher immigration, why are we still short on Carers (who tend to need little training compared to doctors)?

I guess in Vote Leave’s little fantasy world, there would be no more global shocks to factor in once we left the EU - no more wars, no more pandemics, no more global recessions, no more climate change… because obviously there were absolutely no massive hints of serious unrest and instability in the world order .

I agree it’s a very interesting chart. It clearly shows the huge jump with the baby boomer generation and the massive drop down when the pill was introduced. There was a slight uptick after that when the boomers were having kids, then a gradual decline until Labour’s unlimited tax credits caused a large jump, followed by another decline after the two child limit.

I remember the days when it was said masks were just a temp measure for Covid and those of us who said they would be brought back for the flu were conspiracy theorists.

I went to three school nativities at the end of term. Socialised and cared for five grandchildren, two families. I didn't get covid or flu. BUT I did get a gastric bug before Christmas, laid up for three days. Then before new year norovirus.

My immune system is on the fritz. I haven't had covid or flu yet. The fall out from lockdowns, isolation are contributory factors this winter to hospital admissions. I recall the Aussies had the same flu problem

www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2998

Meanwhile in Canada and the USA

www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-04408-7

And to those advocating co-pay, insurance, charges or privatisation for the NHS, I would point out that much of the problems in A&E are caused by blockages in the care system. The care system is private, mostly, for profit and a shambles.

That's a very valid point.