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To call the police and ruin a friendship?

470 replies

Emschels · 31/12/2022 23:58

Hi all,

Happy New Year! Sorry this is a long one!

Me and my friend (28 & 29) have known each other since we were born really, as we both lived on the same council estate and our mums were friends. I have recently welcomed my first child with my partner, and she is his godmum. We do everything together - even work at the same school (although I’m on maternity at the minute).

On Boxing Day, her family always hold a little afternoon get together. Me and my partner always go and this year I took the baby. She brought her new partner (who we had met before at her house briefly earlier on in the year) who seemed to hit it off with my partner, and they were sharing drinks etc. It gets closer to my sons bedtime, and my friend asked if her and her new partner could come over to my flat and have a few drinks once I’d done the bedtime routine and got my little boy down. The night was fine, everything seemed great, nothing amiss. They left at 9.30ish, my partner then went to bed, I did the cleaning.

My boyfriend then woke up at 3am the next morning (27th) for work. On his phone, he had notifications from his HSBC app that his card had been used in three shops around our local area at just before 11pm the previous evening, as well as a hotel booking. He had also received emails from American Express letting him know that they had stopped a £57.99 transaction from a corner shop as they suspected fraudulent activity. We looked for his wallet and it was nowhere in the house; annoyed, he’s presumed he’s dropped it on the way to and from the get together and some opportunist has picked it up and used it. He’s called his bank, reported it as fraudulent and luckily they’ve refunded the money and action fraud have opened a case. Assumed the wallet would be long gone now etc but cancelled all cards and credit cards.

Later on that day, he checks his banking apps. All clear (except HSBC) apart from his barclaycard credit card (which doesn’t show pending transactions) now showing that this card was used in more shops - although some of these shops are specifically named after the area they are in (think London express for example). Two of the places are in an area of East London, which is where my friends new partner is from. For reference, we all live in South West London, about an hours journey away from him on public transport so we suspect it’s not a coincidence.

Ive told my friend that the cards were used in East London and immediately she’s on the defensive saying “No it couldn’t be him, he’d never do that,”. Fair enough, but I’ve told her that my partner will be contacting the police through 101 as these new transactions have bumped the total amount that was spent/stolen to £386 (!!). She agrees she would do the same thing.

Today she has called me and said that she has the wallet. Her partner admitted to it but said he was drunk and can’t remember and woke up with the wallet in his room. She said that her partner knows he messed up and is really sorry. Said she could never forgive him etc etc. He came, dropped off the wallet and she told him to leave. Earlier on tonight I drove to hers and knocked on the door to collect the wallet, he was in her flat. I was shocked he was there and angrily asked him why he did it, he said he didn’t know why, it wasn’t personal, he was drunk but he’s bought the wallet back and now this should be the end of it because my boyfriend ‘has been given the money back by the bank so hasn’t lost out’. At this point now I’m fuming. How dare he? I’ve said it’s not the end of it and if he can’t tell me why he did it he can explain to the police.

On the way home I got a number of WhatsApp messages from my friend asking why we were still contacting the police, and she thinks we shouldn’t do that because he’s said he’s sorry. I’m under the impression she thought that because he’d handed the wallet back, we’d miraculously thank him and not take any further action. I asked her about what she said about not forgiving him and why he was still in the flat, she said that shes stressed because she’s in the middle, can’t pick between her partner and me, even after he stole because he knows he did wrong and can’t remember anything from the night. We got into an argument after that and she’s blocked me on WhatsApp now because I refused to promise her my partner wouldn’t call the police.

My thing is that this is theft. A criminal offence. And he has taken the wallet from the house my partner shares with me and our 5 month old baby. I don’t buy his story about being too drunk to realise as well, because he was able to make a journey on a bus and 2 tube trains back to East London, as well as inputting all his personal information on to booking.com and going into several shops. Also, if he can do this to her friends and think he can get away with it - what’s next? Stealing from her family? Her?

One of her last messages to me was that if I call the police then I am throwing away her friendship because her partner (who is already on probationary license) will most likely be arrested and charged, and then she will feel ‘too awkward’ to talk to me. According to her, I’m being unreasonable because he’s handed the stuff back, my partner has been refunded from the bank, and he’s said he’s sorry, so I should just leave it there.

Im very very stoic on this but does anyone else think that I’m being unreasonable and blowing this all out of proportion?

OP posts:
WeyAyeMan · 01/01/2023 08:15

I've got a feeling she stayed in that hotel with him!

wherearebeefandonioncrisps · 01/01/2023 08:21

You did the right thing.

I'm also wondering if your friend might have been, in some way, complicit in this too.

BorisJohnsonsHair · 01/01/2023 08:26

I think, in time, your friend will realise why you've had to do this.

TidyDancer · 01/01/2023 08:27

You and your partner have done the right thing OP, you know that. Don't let a couple of idiots on this thread tell you otherwise. You don't owe this scummy boyfriend anything and if he gets sent back to prison then all the better. Hopefully it will get your friend some distance from him.

Her behaviour is also despicable frankly and her judgement is clearly quite poor. She needs to make a massive apology to you for her part in this as much as anything else but I wouldn't be sure there's a future for the friendship anyway, which is very sad.

Worriedatwork1 · 01/01/2023 08:31

OP I was in a relationship with someone like this at 22, he was abusive, I was blind to the fact he was blatantly a criminal, I did eventually end up going to court against him and he went to prison, but it took a long time for me to see through his lies/gas lighting etc. You’re doing the right thing but please do reach out to your friend in future as she is likely being controlled/abused herself

Twentypast · 01/01/2023 08:31

Iceballoon · 01/01/2023 07:46

LOL

I have never stolen anything in my life, I have no need to steal. I actually like helping people and giving things away.

Calling the police on a long term friends partner is something I could never do, I have heart.

OP has also said that he is on “licence” so could get sent back to prison, but you think that’s good huh? sending someone back to prison over theft, when there are real criminals out there committing the most horrific crimes.

You sound like one of those people that would could the benefits office on their own friend.

So it's the OP's fault that he'll be recalled to prison?

Nothing to do with his own actions?

If you don't want to go back to prison when out on licence, don't continue to commit crimes.

Zonder · 01/01/2023 08:33

Wow. So they think it's all ok because he said sorry? Did he also offer to pay the bank back for the money they have restored to your DP? Or is he not quite that sorry?

Getamoveon36 · 01/01/2023 08:33

I think the pair of them are lowlifes and 100% enjoyed a night in a hotel on your partners card.
you need to stop unblocking her and sending messages though, you don’t need to give her any info, let the police deal with it. You will ruin any chance of successful prosecution.

HoneyIShrunkThePizza · 01/01/2023 08:36

Obviously not unreasonable to report. But I do think you need to rethink your friends in general. You let a criminal (for an unknown offense) into your house with your baby.

Zonder · 01/01/2023 08:37

Calling the police on a long term friends partner is something I could never do, I have heart.
Do you also "have heart" for the victims of this man's theft, past present and future, @Iceballoon ?

Nevermind91 · 01/01/2023 08:39

Please report it, as soon as possible.
Your friendship is NOT more important than protecting others from this thief. He WILL be doing this again.
It seems to be very natural, second nature to him, to steal from absolutely anybody. Your friend is a total fool and your continued friendship will ensure more difficult discussions, whatever you decide to do.

Chippy1234 · 01/01/2023 08:44

Why do women put up with this sort of rubbish from men? Making constant excuses etc. I sincerely hope she doesn’t have a child herself as it’s a oft repeated pattern that women like this with low self esteem will often put themselves before any child because a man/any man is better than nothing.

Shadesofscarlett · 01/01/2023 08:45

Well done for reporting - I hope he does go back to prison.

Snowflake2023 · 01/01/2023 08:46

This guy is an idiot. I mean what a dumb crime to commit, totally traceable and will send him straight back to prison.

If nothing else, you've taken this idiots genes out of circulation for a while and hopefully he won't prey on other vulnerable women like your friend.

Hilarious that people are saying no one likes a snitch. No one likes a thieving scumbag either. But clearly you can't argue with stupid 🙄

hallodarknessmyoldfriend · 01/01/2023 08:48

Well done, OP.

I think your friend is defending him, because she was in the hotel with him.

She sounds as awful as he is and you deserve better friends.

SnowlayRoundabout · 01/01/2023 08:51

Splonker · 01/01/2023 01:48

You should report it but sadly, I bet the police do bugger all about it.

For someone who is on probation and with such cast-iron evidence, there is every chance they will follow this up. The bank probably will as well.

SnowlayRoundabout · 01/01/2023 08:52

OP, you might like to suggest to your friend that she checks her own bank account. Your partner won't be the only person this pond life is stealing from.

Iceballoon · 01/01/2023 08:55

TangoAcid · 01/01/2023 08:00

@Iceballoon OP's friend has turned up I see.

*sending someone back to prison over theft, when there are real criminals out there
*
You sound a bit thick. This man is a real criminal. And it's not even his first time!! He deserves to go to prison if he can't control himself and stop stealing hundreds of £ of other people.

I don’t know the OP LOL

“A bit thick” a term that’s mainly used by the uneducated, no need to throw insults around now is there?

I don’t believe he “deserves prison” prison should be a place where they keep serious criminals, not petty thieves.

Lndnmummy · 01/01/2023 08:56

Make sure you keep every single message, they are evidence. Your 'friend' trying to prevent you from contacting the police could very very well land her in trouble too....

Zanatdy · 01/01/2023 08:58

Your friend is an idiot, throwing away a solid friendship for some new bf who is a thief amongst other stuff. The fact you’ve not lost out financially is irrelevant, it’s not a victimless crime. If my new bf stole from my best friend the relationship would be over. I don’t know if I’d contact the police, it would be hard to know what to do but you’re not in the wrong by contacting them - not at all

SnowlayRoundabout · 01/01/2023 08:59

Calling the police on a long term friends partner is something I could never do, I have heart.

Never, @Iceballoon? Is there no dividing line? What if he'd stolen money that wouldn't be replaced? What if it was £1000, £10,000, £100,000? What if he were abusing your friend or her children? Does your heart still prevent you involving the police in that situation?

Allsnotwell · 01/01/2023 09:00

I would add - what if not reporting cost you your job and your future?

SnowlayRoundabout · 01/01/2023 09:01

Iceballoon · 01/01/2023 08:55

I don’t know the OP LOL

“A bit thick” a term that’s mainly used by the uneducated, no need to throw insults around now is there?

I don’t believe he “deserves prison” prison should be a place where they keep serious criminals, not petty thieves.

How do you know this man is not a serious criminal, @Iceballoon? Stealing money from your partner's friends isn't exactly petty, is it? How often do you suppose this man does this? Given the ease and speed with which he spent the money, I'd be prepared to bet it's a way of life for him.

CPL593H · 01/01/2023 09:03

Iceballoon · 01/01/2023 06:57

I wouldn’t report him, but I would want the money he used paid back in full straight away, regardless if the bank were going to refund me.

Yes, it’s terrible what he done but you’ve known your friend for many years. Me personally I just wouldn’t get the police involved… as they say “no one likes a grass” 😔

I guarantee that everyone who says "No one likes a grass" and is not actually a criminal themselves would be calling 999 in a nanosecond if someone offended against them.

Icouldabeenalawyer · 01/01/2023 09:04

Yanbu and I hope your friend sees sense and runs