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To call the police and ruin a friendship?

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Emschels · 31/12/2022 23:58

Hi all,

Happy New Year! Sorry this is a long one!

Me and my friend (28 & 29) have known each other since we were born really, as we both lived on the same council estate and our mums were friends. I have recently welcomed my first child with my partner, and she is his godmum. We do everything together - even work at the same school (although I’m on maternity at the minute).

On Boxing Day, her family always hold a little afternoon get together. Me and my partner always go and this year I took the baby. She brought her new partner (who we had met before at her house briefly earlier on in the year) who seemed to hit it off with my partner, and they were sharing drinks etc. It gets closer to my sons bedtime, and my friend asked if her and her new partner could come over to my flat and have a few drinks once I’d done the bedtime routine and got my little boy down. The night was fine, everything seemed great, nothing amiss. They left at 9.30ish, my partner then went to bed, I did the cleaning.

My boyfriend then woke up at 3am the next morning (27th) for work. On his phone, he had notifications from his HSBC app that his card had been used in three shops around our local area at just before 11pm the previous evening, as well as a hotel booking. He had also received emails from American Express letting him know that they had stopped a £57.99 transaction from a corner shop as they suspected fraudulent activity. We looked for his wallet and it was nowhere in the house; annoyed, he’s presumed he’s dropped it on the way to and from the get together and some opportunist has picked it up and used it. He’s called his bank, reported it as fraudulent and luckily they’ve refunded the money and action fraud have opened a case. Assumed the wallet would be long gone now etc but cancelled all cards and credit cards.

Later on that day, he checks his banking apps. All clear (except HSBC) apart from his barclaycard credit card (which doesn’t show pending transactions) now showing that this card was used in more shops - although some of these shops are specifically named after the area they are in (think London express for example). Two of the places are in an area of East London, which is where my friends new partner is from. For reference, we all live in South West London, about an hours journey away from him on public transport so we suspect it’s not a coincidence.

Ive told my friend that the cards were used in East London and immediately she’s on the defensive saying “No it couldn’t be him, he’d never do that,”. Fair enough, but I’ve told her that my partner will be contacting the police through 101 as these new transactions have bumped the total amount that was spent/stolen to £386 (!!). She agrees she would do the same thing.

Today she has called me and said that she has the wallet. Her partner admitted to it but said he was drunk and can’t remember and woke up with the wallet in his room. She said that her partner knows he messed up and is really sorry. Said she could never forgive him etc etc. He came, dropped off the wallet and she told him to leave. Earlier on tonight I drove to hers and knocked on the door to collect the wallet, he was in her flat. I was shocked he was there and angrily asked him why he did it, he said he didn’t know why, it wasn’t personal, he was drunk but he’s bought the wallet back and now this should be the end of it because my boyfriend ‘has been given the money back by the bank so hasn’t lost out’. At this point now I’m fuming. How dare he? I’ve said it’s not the end of it and if he can’t tell me why he did it he can explain to the police.

On the way home I got a number of WhatsApp messages from my friend asking why we were still contacting the police, and she thinks we shouldn’t do that because he’s said he’s sorry. I’m under the impression she thought that because he’d handed the wallet back, we’d miraculously thank him and not take any further action. I asked her about what she said about not forgiving him and why he was still in the flat, she said that shes stressed because she’s in the middle, can’t pick between her partner and me, even after he stole because he knows he did wrong and can’t remember anything from the night. We got into an argument after that and she’s blocked me on WhatsApp now because I refused to promise her my partner wouldn’t call the police.

My thing is that this is theft. A criminal offence. And he has taken the wallet from the house my partner shares with me and our 5 month old baby. I don’t buy his story about being too drunk to realise as well, because he was able to make a journey on a bus and 2 tube trains back to East London, as well as inputting all his personal information on to booking.com and going into several shops. Also, if he can do this to her friends and think he can get away with it - what’s next? Stealing from her family? Her?

One of her last messages to me was that if I call the police then I am throwing away her friendship because her partner (who is already on probationary license) will most likely be arrested and charged, and then she will feel ‘too awkward’ to talk to me. According to her, I’m being unreasonable because he’s handed the stuff back, my partner has been refunded from the bank, and he’s said he’s sorry, so I should just leave it there.

Im very very stoic on this but does anyone else think that I’m being unreasonable and blowing this all out of proportion?

OP posts:
Mumtobabyhavoc · 01/01/2023 04:24

Police. Revoke godmother. End friendship. Don't look back.

RLScott · 01/01/2023 04:31

Brilliantly done OP. He will reoffend.

You friend is daft for not binning him. A thief is an instant turn off. The “I was drunk” excuse is hilarious. He’s clearly as thick as two short planks to think anyone would buy that one... “Yeah I drank too much and as a result I got sticky fingers”. FFS.

Lostinasupermarket · 01/01/2023 04:33

He is an absolute scumbag and is clearly trying to manipulate her by attempting to deflect blame off him and onto you for the end of your friendship.

I know you have already reported the additional information so my point is moot but you aren’t endangering your friendship at all. It’s effectively over anyway for as long as she is with him. Can you imagine any circumstance in which you would meet with her while he is on the scene after this? Perhaps when she finally comes to her senses you will be able to reconcile; if you wanted to.

Newwardrobe · 01/01/2023 04:33

I wouldn't engage with her anymore, if you've given them the heads up he may well do a runner.

RLScott · 01/01/2023 04:40

Your friend is either not very bright or she’s infatuated with him to not have binned him off.

BigHeadBertha · 01/01/2023 04:47

So glad to hear you reported this. Endangering yourselves legally by not doing so is just way too much to do for someone who had the nerve to steal from you in the first place.

I think your friend will apologize when she recovers from the temporary insanity she is obviously under.

Thingiemajig · 01/01/2023 04:59

an after thought, the partner was at your friends family celebration with you…. Might be good idea to let the host know in very short simple unemotional terms as they and their guests are also vulnerable to theft.

MrsSmith1993 · 01/01/2023 05:11

Definitely report it. Sounds like he’s got experience of doing this. Your friend will learn the hard way when he does this to her!

AngelDelightUK · 01/01/2023 05:23

Good on you for reporting it. Hope he gets in serious trouble for it. What a complete arse

HomeTheatreSystem · 01/01/2023 05:36

You've done the right thing OP. The friendship is at risk, not because of you but because of this criminal your friend has become involved with. Does she even know what he was in for before?

I would maybe write her a letter saying that you are sorry to lose the friendship but if she's prepared to favour a bloke she's known 5 mins who is out on probation and has STOLEN from her friends whilst enjoying their hospitality (and no, it had nothing to do with being drunk) then she is the one who has decided your long standing friendship isn't worth keeping. When she comes to her senses you'll be there for her.

Hope it works out OK for you all and that the POS gets thrown back in HMP lodgings.

Smallonesaremorejuicy · 01/01/2023 05:36

Allsnotwell · 01/01/2023 00:29

He may have returned the wallet - but he’s still benefited from a hotel stay and goods from shops to the turn of £400 - your DH may well have been reimbursed but he’s still ‘up’ on the deal with no consequences!

This . Also he wasn’t so drunk that he didn’t scurry off to different local shops to spend your money ! Get rid of that friend, she lied & said she had told him to go .

WiddlinDiddlin · 01/01/2023 06:02

Wow, she really knows how to pick 'em!

He sounds like an absolute fucking treat, out on licence (be interesting to know what for), shitting on his own doorstep stealing from his partners friends, then trying to threaten and blackmail his way out of it?!

Thick as fuck AND a nasty piece of work.

I hope his ass is hauled back to jail and she then has time to realise what an utter prick he is.

This may be the end of the friendship, it may not - thats up to you and her, but NOT reporting it would be doing her no favours either, condoning his behaviour and their relationship certainly would not help her see what a shit he is!

determinedtomakethiswork · 01/01/2023 06:05

I wonder whether she was at the hotel with him.

PearPickingPorky · 01/01/2023 06:29

I really hope she dumps him. If be quite concerned that a criminal like him has now got my personal information and the threat would make me unsettled.

BarrelOfOtters · 01/01/2023 06:30

The police may not do much to be honest. But you had to do it. I’d let friend know that you’d be there for her if she loses him….but you don’t have to do that now.

if he’s out on licence you can google his name and it’ll probably tell you what for.

erinaceus · 01/01/2023 06:35

I have not RTFT but have seen your posts.

There is every chance that you have not ruined a friendship.

Can you imagine the shock at finding out your new partner was being accused of a criminal offence against your own friend’s partner? Whilst not everyone would respond in the way your friend is doing, it is natural to get defensive, especially as others have pointed out if he is messing with her head too.

Let your husband lead the way in the interactions with the police, and sit tight. Your friend is in a really really tricky spot, and it is New Years, and you were drinking. If you give her some space and give her time to talk though how shit being in that relationship was, you might not need to have ruined a friendship.

I do hope that your husband does not lose out financially, that would be shit.

MithrilCostsMore · 01/01/2023 06:37

On e the bank has returned the money to your account, they become the complainant so it's out of your hands. You no longer choose to press charges, the bank does.

wishapple · 01/01/2023 06:41

Say you have to report so the card is clear of fraud and your money is protected

SnowAndIceLobelia · 01/01/2023 06:49

You guys are FIERCE. In a very very very good way!

I admire you.

You have done the right thing. He is responsible for the theft. He is responsible for his actions. She and he are both responsible for whatever falls upon their heads. And tbh it is a bit frightening if she thinks this person is such a catch that she is willing to bring such a scumbag into her life and her daughter's life.

Iceballoon · 01/01/2023 06:57

I wouldn’t report him, but I would want the money he used paid back in full straight away, regardless if the bank were going to refund me.

Yes, it’s terrible what he done but you’ve known your friend for many years. Me personally I just wouldn’t get the police involved… as they say “no one likes a grass” 😔

Elderflower14 · 01/01/2023 07:05

Well done for sticking to your guns. If he has done it to you he will do it to others.. Not sure if you said but what is he on licence for? . Your friend is very foolish to stay with him.. She isn't a friend to you either if she does.

olympicsrock · 01/01/2023 07:06

Could you ask the hotel how many people checked in that night?

GetThatHelmetOn · 01/01/2023 07:08

Stop communicating with them, not because they will make a run but because you are putting yourself in danger. As the person above said “nobody likes a grass” and this is not a misbehaving teenager but someone who has managed to behave bad enough to end up in jail before.

Galvantula · 01/01/2023 07:08

Iceballoon · 01/01/2023 06:57

I wouldn’t report him, but I would want the money he used paid back in full straight away, regardless if the bank were going to refund me.

Yes, it’s terrible what he done but you’ve known your friend for many years. Me personally I just wouldn’t get the police involved… as they say “no one likes a grass” 😔

No criminal likes a grass. 🤷🏼‍♀️

If you're a thieving scumbag, you can't really complain.

Well done for getting it reported, the brass neck of thinking he'd get away with that shit.

WeAreTheHeroes · 01/01/2023 07:12

I'd be worried about my personal safety now. Not because you have reported to the police, but because you've told your friend and the thief what you've done and he's a nasty piece of work. He knows your address.

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