11 Year old DS vapes when with his Dad

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My 11 year DS who is in Y7, sees his Dad every other weekend, well it has come out that his Dad vapes now, which because he is a fully grown adult is fine but what I am so angry about is that my ex has bought DS a vape and he regularly vapes when at his Dad's house.

Should I tell my ex that unless he stops DS vaping I cannot send him to his house? What would social services services do regarding the situation if ex refuses to do the sensible and right thing, which knowing him is the more likely outcome to happen.

Does the vape contain nicotine?

Not that it would be ok to drag the mist into his lungs even if it didn't, but I think you need to get your facts straight in case you do end up reporting him.

Social Services, immediately.

YANBU.

any adult that allows a child to vape is scummy.

their lungs are still developing so why would any kind of vape, nicotine or not be ok?

there’s a massive problem with vaping in schools at the moment and half of the problem is that parents allow them to do it home.

I would absolutely not be letting my child go to his house

I would stop contact and let social services know why! Thats absolutely awful, 15/16 then although I wouldn't be happy, there's not much you can do but 11 is disgusting.

YANBU, that’s disgusting.

@DuplicateUserName Yes it does contain nicotine, I am so angry with my ex for his awful parenting and worried for my DS because he is might get addicted if he carries on vaping and when he is older will be doing it all the time.

Hell no way would I let that continue. What is this teaching your son!! Your ex sounds thick as shit.

Christ he’s desperately trying to be the cool dad isn’t he … tragic. I’d be raging OP.

Vaping is terrible for lung health , would he give your son cigarettes? Because this is no different.

Contains nicotine yeah I'd report to SS. I'd also seek to stop contact with this arse of a father. What next a pint or crack open the whisky.
What he is doing has huge implications. Huge safeguarding issues here imo.

I very rarely say this but I'd stop contact immediately before he gets addicted to nicotine.

The weirdest part about this is that there are so many nicotine-free vapes he could've bought.

It would still be illegal for your son to use one and still bad for his health, but at least he wouldn't get a nicotine addiction.

Why would you even need to ask this?

A family member, aged 21 vaped until he repeatedly collapsed and ended up in a and e - the second time, they discovered that the vape was affecting his heart beats, and they hooked him up to a monitor while he vaped to show him.

It can be dangerous. I'd stop contact and report to ss

I think If you report to social care they would say for you to not send him for contact. You could still report him, but I expect this is the reply you would get.

I would be angry too. Do you have written evidence of his allowing son to vape? If not I would’ve tempted to try and get some written evidence (texts with dad asking him to stop it and him replying refusing to stop). Then I’d stop contact and have evidence if he decided to take me to court.

what does your child think? Can you talk to them about the dangers of vaping? Unknown affects on health?

Id not be sending him again

How do you know he's vaping OP?

I would call social services, stop contact, and see a solicitor.

Absolutely fucking not. That's utterly appalling and also illegal. I'd report to SS immediately. Stop contact straight away. This is a safeguarding issue. Nicotine is dangerously addictive as I well know. I vape but I'm 53. At 11 years old who knows what damage that is doing.

It sounds like you are in the UK. So the law states that if it contains nicotine it is illegal to purchase or supply vaping products to anyone under 18. Sadly the current regulations allow anyone to purchase or use vaping products that do not contain nicotine. This is something the industry is actually trying to get changed. As for safety, while it is not recommended that anyone who does not currently smoke vape there is minimal risk in doing so. Accurate information on vaping can be found on the NHS website and Public Health England as well as most reputable British health bodies say that vaping is at least 95% less harmful than smoking. Sadly there is so much misinformation out there regarding the safety of vaping. Hope that helps.

kidshealth.org/en/teens/e-cigarettes.html

Vaping is much more harmful for kids than adults whose lungs have presumably already been exposed to cigarette fumes. Agree with PPs to contact Social Services and don't let him go there again. Sorry you're having to deal with this. Luckily your DS has got you to look after him.

Why the heck haven’t you reported this to SS?

This is a massive issue, he should not be given anything other than supervised access in this situation

As an expert in this subject I can tell you that the information on that link is absolute garbage. Totally inaccurate and misleading information. If you want actual reliable information I suggest you look here . www.nhs.uk/live-well/quit-smoking/using-e-cigarettes-to-stop-smoking/

ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2018/02/20/clearing-up-some-myths-around-e-cigarettes/

Bloody hell that’s awful OP, I don’t blame you for being distraught. Tell him unless it stops immediately for your sons own safety you’ll be withdrawing contact.

Sorry but that is false information. Vaping is far better for you than smoking combustible cigarettes and in fact is at least 95% less harmful.