To find Jordan Peterson...

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Quite attractive? I'm a 30 year old woman so he is a little out of my usual age range but there's something about him I find really attractive. Maybe it's an attraction due to how clever the man is, I'm not sure. I can't be alone in this?

Hmm. On the other hand it is interesting how keen his supporters are for people to spend a lot of time listening to all he says before having an opinion. Often I find that it's relatively easy to gauge if you want to read or listen more to someone by looking at articles, interviews, quotations. It gives you a sense of where they're coming from and then you can investigate more if you're interested. I don't generally feel that the media are conspiring to hide the truth about people so effectively as to make it impossible to form an initial judgement in this way. Yet some posters seem to be saying that anyone who has done this just needs to read more to be convinced. Well, I have read more and I'm not convinced. I think he's plausible and articulate but I don't think he's going in a direction I admire (his earlier writing was less inflammatory). He's a climate change denier which doesn't signal a deep thinker to me, and his views on me and women have the kind of soundbite quality of a more sophisticated Andrew Tate. So not fanciable at all to answer the original question of the vanishing OP. This thread has the feel of something set up to advertise him though so I shouldn't bite...

No I don't. But when I'm listening to him it's good to verify that I am not spending my life in echo chambers. Sometimes it helps refine my own opposing point of view sometimes I find his opinion on a said subject oddly interesting.

He is not always wrong.

His questions are relevant.

Something about him doesn't sit right with me. Lots of his comments about women have misogynistic undertones and he seems like he is about to explode with emotion a lot of the time - I can't tell if he is going to cry or hit someone though.

This. I’ve spent significant time understanding his perspective and not just listening to a few soundbites on the internet. It’s depressing how he’s lumped in with incels.

Not gonna lie, I'd do him too. I feel a little bad about that, but it's still true.

And there I was, thinking that the only person who fancied Jordan Peterson was Jordan Peterson.

Exactly this

He denies Patriarchy is a thing.

Anyone who needs that answered won’t agree with the examples given so it becomes a water of time. JP denies the past existence of patriarchy too, he reckons everyone had it bad back in the day.

Sometimes you realise that the reason men and women will never be equals is because so many women are happy and willing to do the work for patriarchy to thrive. They're drawn to it almost magnetically. Isn't JP just so fit??? He might be a raging misogynist but my god have you seen those grey wirey hairs <3 <3

This

Definitely agree about the pseudo intellectual. I think the misogyny has been slightly exaggerated though. He also seems mentally unwell at the moment, with a history of substance abuse. Also seems to be permanently depressed. For all of those reasons I would happily give him a miss. Who needs that in your life?

I would rather eat my own spleen.

What does patriarchy, in western culture, look like to you? Can you give some examples of that?

Anyone who needs that answered won’t agree with the examples given so it becomes a water of time. JP denies the past existence of patriarchy too, he reckons everyone had it bad back in the day.

Ah answer it anyway if you can, I like to hear all sides.

Anyone who needs that answered won’t agree with the examples given so it becomes a water of time.

Also, by this, do you mean it's a waste of time speaking with someone if they wont definitely agree with you ? 🤣

I won’t fight you for him, OP. He and his backward opinions revolt me.

How about you explain why you agree with him?