Page 2 | That Andrew Tate wasn’t found because of a pizza box?

JustAnotherManicNameChange · 2022-12-30T16:33:05+00:00

I’ll start by saying that he deserves to rot in jail and the Twitter exchange was quite brilliant. However, it really bothers me how this is being reported. So many articles of how it’s all to Greta and a pizza box. It’s reducing the Romanian police force to bumbling idiots, watching SM in the hope of a clue ,any clue. I’m not saying the tweet didn’t possibly contribute, but the papers put it all down to it. So ,no surveillance, no investigations, no tracking or phones or credit cards , no work or intelligence used or required? Just sitting around and praying that a tweet with a location falls in their laps? YABU: The tweet was essential, and they couldn’t have done it without it. YANBU: The arrest was due to months of work and investigations, the tweet had minimal(if at any contribution) and it’s all being spun in a suitable feel good/karma narrative.

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JustAnotherManicNameChange · 30/12/2022 17:25

GlendaSugarbeanIsJudgingYou · 30/12/2022 17:17

Do you dislike Greta?

Not at all , I agree with some of her views, disagree with others, and indifferent to whatever is left. This has nothing to do with Greta (despite some people wanting to make it all about her) and everything to do with the media spin around it.

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CremeEggThief · 30/12/2022 17:27

I don't recall ever hearing of Andrew Tate before this week. IMO, the important thing is he has been caught. It doesn't really matter by whom or how. YABU to dwell on it any more than that and to expect better reporting from the media.

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JustAnotherManicNameChange · 30/12/2022 17:40

Thedaysthatremain · 30/12/2022 17:23

This is such a non issue and it's really clear you only care because of how much you hate Greta

Really? You can't think of any other possible reason? Nothing at all?

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Elliania · 30/12/2022 17:43

They knew where he was but they had no proof he was still in the country. The pizza box proved he was in Romania which gave them cause to raid his house to arrest him. The Romanian police were reported to be watching his social media looking for this sort of clue.

Regularsizedrudy · 30/12/2022 17:44

This is a weird hill to die on op

dolor · 30/12/2022 17:45

Oh gawd I wondered when this would start hahahaha.

Bluekerfuffle · 30/12/2022 17:46

JustAnotherManicNameChange · 30/12/2022 17:11

Ah that's ok then. They're not incompetent just corrupt. Or maybe they couldn't be bothered like I saw on another thread.

It was the pizza box that made them take action. 🙄

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It’s not unheard of for authorities to be corrupt, even our own. 🙄

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JustAnotherManicNameChange · 30/12/2022 17:51

Regularsizedrudy · 30/12/2022 17:44

This is a weird hill to die on op

I actually realise that. Doesn't change how I feel, which doesn't help.

Logically I can accept that the outcome is all that matters, move on it's not a big deal . It's just not bloody working.

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ExtraOnions · 30/12/2022 17:56

Unless you are in the local police service, you have no clue whatsoever how important (or not) the pizza box was.

You are getting upset on behalf of a police force who don’t know you, and I doubt would thank you for their martyrdom of them … how bizarre.

ChocolateCroissantCafe · 30/12/2022 17:57

There may have been an element of getting him before someone pointed out that he'd advertised his location and he moved on? I wondered if they had the investigation on the back burner and this prompted a use it or lose it situation.

dolor · 30/12/2022 17:58

Romanian police are incredibly corrupt (source is my sadly now ex sister in law who is Romanian). It's not just the police either, her father fell very ill and was a politician there. If you want to be attended to quickly, you have to wave money about or you'll be waiting a while.

He was a horrible violent man, the patriarchal structure over there is not kind to women and girls, which is probably why Tate settled there. Her father died eventually, brain tumour. His behaviour was always nasty though, he was awful to his wife and slapped his daughter about a lot. I never met him, I'd have fucking belted him if I had. He was a bastard.

It's a beautiful country, but it's very dated. Of course here in the UK we have our own corruption regarding the police and well, EVERYTHING really, but in Romania there are many reasons why women and trans people want to flee. It's incredibly sad.

Tate is a horrible, disgusting man. I think he's been released now given his latest tweet, but I would love to see him locked away for a very long time.

EmmaAgain22 · 30/12/2022 18:00

JustAnotherManicNameChange · 30/12/2022 16:49

Because the spin bothers me.
Because people believe it.
Because it reduces and minimises months of work and evidence gathering of which there's barely any mention.
Because already one poster said the police said it was the pizza box when no such statement was made.
Because it's all about Greta and how amazing she is and how SHE got him.

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I got the opposite

for the pizza box to be important, they were already well into a thorough investigation. That means they did a lot of work, which I fully appreciate. It doesn't minimise the work. But no one can talk about the work atm.

hope he gets what he deserves.

SirMingeALot · 30/12/2022 18:01

mynameiscalypso · 30/12/2022 16:41

This. It's not like they didn't know which house was his before the video but there would have been no point making a move if he wasn't there as it would have tipped him off and, assuming he wasn't in the country, presumably meant that he would have been very unlikely to return. Instead, they waited for proof he was at home before raiding his house. Seems very sensible to me.

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Yeah, I've no idea if it's accurate or not but it doesn't seem corrupt or incompetent to me if that's indeed what happened.

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JustAnotherManicNameChange · 30/12/2022 18:01

ChocolateCroissantCafe · 30/12/2022 17:57

There may have been an element of getting him before someone pointed out that he'd advertised his location and he moved on? I wondered if they had the investigation on the back burner and this prompted a use it or lose it situation.

That's a good point.

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Thedaysthatremain · 30/12/2022 18:04

JustAnotherManicNameChange · 30/12/2022 17:40

Really? You can't think of any other possible reason? Nothing at all?

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Really.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 30/12/2022 18:08

He deserves to rot in jail.

Over a pizza box!. Am I missing something.

WonderingiBucharest · 30/12/2022 18:09

On a UK flight from Bucharest. Border force are scrutinising the passports of white males between 20 to 30 something with spy glasses. Never seen that before. Wonder if someone eluded them

Vitriolinsanity · 30/12/2022 18:10

Of course the Romanian police aren't idiots.

But GT's post is fucking spot on.

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JustAnotherManicNameChange · 30/12/2022 18:12

@EmmaAgain22 that's a point of view that I can get behind . Probably if I would've seen more of it I would've never started this thread. Maybe people that think the same didn't see the point in expressing it as to them it seems obvious.

"A bit of both" reporting /comments definitely wouldn't have bothered me if that makes sense.

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LonginesPrime · 30/12/2022 18:13

In terms of the media portrayal, I think the appeal is (1) his hubris in starting a public spat and the narrative of his downfall being a direct result of his arrogance and (2) the fact the Twitter spat played out in public for the world to see, so people are drawn to the idea that they witnessed the whole chain of events and were an integral part of the drama.

Obviously, there will have been plenty of other stuff going on in the background with the police, etc, and we all know that really.

But people can't resist a good story, and the notion of someone getting their comeuppance in such a seemingly public and self-inflicted way is a much more appealing story than 'the police did their jobs'.

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/12/2022 18:15

Police across the world now use monitoring peoples social media accounts for information on what they're doing and where they are.

This is not remotely new - Greta's response to him caused him to slip up and reveal he was in Romania in his hurry to try and wind her up further by showing the pizza delivery.

Would he have slipped up any way at some point, probably, yes. Were they monitoring his SM long before this, yes.

I don't think anyone has suggested that GT's tweets are the ONLY reason he got caught out, just that they were the catalyst for him waving about pizza boxes that proved he was in Romania at that moment, which just so happened to be exactly what the police needed.

WomanhoodIsABirthright · 30/12/2022 18:16

RobbinBanksy · 30/12/2022 17:15

But does it affect you at all? Are you part of the police team who found him? Why do you care whether or not this snippet is accurate, what’s it to you?

We should all be bothered by factually incorrect media

EmmaAgain22 · 30/12/2022 18:17

JustAnotherManicNameChange · 30/12/2022 18:12

@EmmaAgain22 that's a point of view that I can get behind . Probably if I would've seen more of it I would've never started this thread. Maybe people that think the same didn't see the point in expressing it as to them it seems obvious.

"A bit of both" reporting /comments definitely wouldn't have bothered me if that makes sense.

I think things are expressed in a very abbreviated way....and it's assumed certain things are understood and I'm often baffled.

but in terms of police work, if something like this is useful, it can only be useful if there's already something major going on investigation wise. I said that last night on here at about 3am. I just happened to see the news because I couldn't sleep.

I reckon all the funny stuff is fully cognisant of that - it's partly why capture by pizza box is so funny!

pp calling him a "sentient peanut" also really made me 😂

OneTC · 30/12/2022 18:17

He wasn't arrested for eating a pizza so the work into investigating the actual crimes goes without saying surely.

It is pretty easy to be in a country without the authorities knowing you're there.

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JustAnotherManicNameChange · 30/12/2022 18:23

LonginesPrime · 30/12/2022 18:13

In terms of the media portrayal, I think the appeal is (1) his hubris in starting a public spat and the narrative of his downfall being a direct result of his arrogance and (2) the fact the Twitter spat played out in public for the world to see, so people are drawn to the idea that they witnessed the whole chain of events and were an integral part of the drama.

Obviously, there will have been plenty of other stuff going on in the background with the police, etc, and we all know that really.

But people can't resist a good story, and the notion of someone getting their comeuppance in such a seemingly public and self-inflicted way is a much more appealing story than 'the police did their jobs'.

I think you've just expressed my (original) feelings that prompted this thread much better that I could've ever done. Thank you for that.

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