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To Think We Should Still Be Wearing Masks

626 replies

TheShellBeach · 28/12/2022 23:28

Especially seeing the news coming out of China, and the lies they seem to be telling about the Covid situation there.

I never stopped wearing a mask when shopping anyway, even though we were told it was no longer necessary.

Yes, I know that most people have now been vaccinated.

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PlusLaMeme · 29/12/2022 18:24

And in the time I took to make my post, SavoirFlair came along to prove the point.

Jourdain11 · 29/12/2022 18:25

I also don't think I've ever used cancer as a way of "bludgeoning away a debate". I think Covid did make the situation more difficult and some people were very scared of Covid and it did result in some difficult interactions which I don't believe would have happened in "normal" times.

Ultimately, I did not think it was right to make my kids shield or feel responsible for keeping infection away from me.

I also found it exceptionally difficult to be isolated at that time - to an extent it was necessary, but I had good and balanced advice from my consultant around this.

I also have been left with some compromisation of my immune system, but it is my responsibility to take safety measures and protect myself. I don't really care if other people wear masks or not and I'm not convinced of their efficacy either.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 29/12/2022 18:27

PlusLaMeme · 29/12/2022 18:21

Lydia, one poster tried to rip me ON THIS THREAD for struggling with mask wearing due to my claustrophobia. The only reason it didn't descend into a pile-on is because the tide has shifted. The way mental health and #BeKind was jettisoned in the last two years has left me with a huge mistrust of the public at large

Exactly and the fact people are still being bullied and dicks and expecting people to be responsible for the health of others is very strange indeed.

PiddleOfPuppies · 29/12/2022 18:37

I'm deaf in one ear and have auditory processing issues, so I rely on lipreading to understand what is being said - particularly between perspex screens.

I hate masks for this, and for hygiene reasons. They were breathed into, then taken off and left on tables while people ate, stuffed into pockets and then reused. People constantly touched them when wearing them. You wouldn't do that with a handkerchief...

Bubblesdublin · 29/12/2022 18:39

I am still wearing mine in crowded settings and on public transport. I live with vunerable people.

sst1234 · 29/12/2022 18:42

Surprised that the Covid zealots have not brought up the seatbelt or drink driving comparison yet. That was the usual go to analogy when trying to shame people for not wearing masks and calling them selfish.

Because apparently not wearing a mask is just like getting behind the wheel of a car drunk.

WestwardHo1 · 29/12/2022 18:42

There was a thread some months back - maybe a year? - about selfishness. It was after the tide has shifted a bit, and people were openly questioning why they were being called selfish for wanting the best for their kids, by the people who had until that point been the ones we had all been protecting.

A poster who said she was ECV was deriding everyone in sight because she was no longer their priority. She thought everyone's focus should still be on protecting her, at the expense of their own lives, and their children's. She could not or would not understand why she could be described as being as selfish as anyone else. She thought these sacrifices should continue indefinitely, even though they were clearly having a really adverse effect on people's lives

Posters were justifiably asking her why she thought her life was more important than other people's.

Buzzinwithbez · 29/12/2022 18:43

I hate masks for this, and for hygiene reasons. They were breathed into, then taken off and left on tables while people ate, stuffed into pockets and then reused. People constantly touched them when wearing them. You wouldn't do that with a handkerchief...

Not to mention the litter. Who do people think is going to pick them up if they won't dispose of them properly!

Bicurator · 29/12/2022 18:47

Why have you put a capital on every word in your title?

CoffeeWithCheese · 29/12/2022 18:48

My life was hell for the time masks were a thing. I barely left the house - and when I did I was verbally abused in the local supermarket (I had a Bastard Lanyard on as well. I can barely wear a mask - they trigger a massive autistic sensory overload meltdown for me if I wear them for any length of time - I HAD to wear one for something a while back and it fucked me over completely for a good couple of days afterwards and I wasn't able to function at all.

I can just about cope for a brief length of time now - because without being able to do that, I would have no career prospects whatsoever for a role I started training for long before the pandemic happened... but I really do so at immense personal detriment and it'll make me feel pretty awful for the rest of the day (like physically sick, shaky as well as headaches and feeling emotionally really really uneven).

I'm not wearing one of those Bastard Lanyards again - they were itchy as fuck and they garnered so much hate - and the comments on here - about how you didn't care about others, about how you were personally slaughtering someone's granny, how you were stupid, thick, a dangerous person... and the hate in the real world - it was horrific and I think to be honest if we went back there - I'd be at a very real risk of not coming out the other side this time around - my mental health wouldn't cope with it again.

I'm so fearful we'll end up back there that I have advance plans negotiated with work if they do end up mandated once more - I'll work from home and go out on patient visits with time between those to re-regulate myself because however hard I've tried, and however many solutions I've tried (because my autism means I DO desperately want to be able to follow rules and I fear being picked out by society) - nothing has been the magic bullet to fix it for me - mask spacers, different types of masks, putting them on in specific ways (helped a tiny bit but takes ages and ages of me faffing to get that sorted), contact lenses instead of glasses... none of them work and visors were even worse because they fucked with the sound in the environment as well making me feel even more off-kilter.

It's really not something you can explain unless someone else has been there - and I don't think the ones on here again using it as an excuse to be downright vile to other members of the human race actually want to hear it - but the damned things dramatically limited any possible career options for me, and could have fucked my career over completely. But it's "just a little thing" and "the least anyone can do".

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 29/12/2022 18:58

PiddleOfPuppies · 29/12/2022 18:37

I'm deaf in one ear and have auditory processing issues, so I rely on lipreading to understand what is being said - particularly between perspex screens.

I hate masks for this, and for hygiene reasons. They were breathed into, then taken off and left on tables while people ate, stuffed into pockets and then reused. People constantly touched them when wearing them. You wouldn't do that with a handkerchief...

I am slightly hard of hearing and strongly rely on lip movement and subtitles. Masks were a nightmare for me. I don’t think people realise just how much of an impact masks had on particular groups. I’m sure I’ll get a snarky comment for saying that 🙄

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 29/12/2022 19:00

WestwardHo1 · 29/12/2022 18:42

There was a thread some months back - maybe a year? - about selfishness. It was after the tide has shifted a bit, and people were openly questioning why they were being called selfish for wanting the best for their kids, by the people who had until that point been the ones we had all been protecting.

A poster who said she was ECV was deriding everyone in sight because she was no longer their priority. She thought everyone's focus should still be on protecting her, at the expense of their own lives, and their children's. She could not or would not understand why she could be described as being as selfish as anyone else. She thought these sacrifices should continue indefinitely, even though they were clearly having a really adverse effect on people's lives

Posters were justifiably asking her why she thought her life was more important than other people's.

Yes I’ve noticed lots of this and people are wary of pushing back because of course you don’t want to be seen to be disagreeing with someone who is very ill or going through something tough. But it doesn’t give them the right to be a dick and ride roughshod over the rights and comfort of everyone else

TheLittlestLightOnTheXmasTree · 29/12/2022 19:02

Nobody will ever comply again

We will be 'exempt' if necessary

XenoBitch · 29/12/2022 19:02

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 29/12/2022 18:58

I am slightly hard of hearing and strongly rely on lip movement and subtitles. Masks were a nightmare for me. I don’t think people realise just how much of an impact masks had on particular groups. I’m sure I’ll get a snarky comment for saying that 🙄

I don't have issues with my hearing but I was surprised by how much I relied on seeing people's mouths when they were talking. I struggle with eye contact, so I tend to look at mouths instead. Also, it is so hard to read someone when you can only see the top half of their face. I spent my shopping trips just looking at the floor so I didn't have to see all the faceless people. I am an adult... I assume small children would have struggled even more.

Pelo22 · 29/12/2022 19:07

SunlightInParis · 29/12/2022 18:11

It's over now. Just like a cold.
We need to learn to continue to treat it as such.

I wish people would stop saying this though because it isn't
I've just started anti viral drugs for it today that they were concerned enough to give me
For people that are immunocompromised it's not always just a cold

CocoLux · 29/12/2022 19:11

WilsonMilson · 29/12/2022 12:18

Never doing any of that shit ever again.

This. The evidence that masks and lockdowns actually achieved anything just isn't strong enough. Lockdowns caused huge psychological damage. Masks are single-use disposable waste in a world drowning in rubbish.

TheLittlestLightOnTheXmasTree · 29/12/2022 19:12

@Pelo22

Well for the majority it IS over.

CriticalAlert · 29/12/2022 19:12

Yup I think we should all be wearing masks in crowded places, shops, public transport etc. Covid hasn't gone away. I hate wearing a mask but will continue.

ilovesooty · 29/12/2022 19:41

sst1234 · 29/12/2022 18:42

Surprised that the Covid zealots have not brought up the seatbelt or drink driving comparison yet. That was the usual go to analogy when trying to shame people for not wearing masks and calling them selfish.

Because apparently not wearing a mask is just like getting behind the wheel of a car drunk.

Most people aren' routinely wearing masks now. Some people are choosing to wear them in certain environments. Why do their choices matter to you? Most people don't have the opinions you cited. Your post is just flaming.

Toddlerteaplease · 29/12/2022 19:57

Still having to wear them at work. He'll will freeze over before I wear one anywhere else.

endlesscraziness · 29/12/2022 20:15

I wear a mask when I'm ill and I think everyone else should but they won't

TheLittlestLightOnTheXmasTree · 29/12/2022 20:22

endlesscraziness · 29/12/2022 20:15

I wear a mask when I'm ill and I think everyone else should but they won't

Why? Just because YOU are??

No, people have their own opinions

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 29/12/2022 20:42

TheLittlestLightOnTheXmasTree · 29/12/2022 20:22

Why? Just because YOU are??

No, people have their own opinions

TBF that poster did stress ‘when I’m ill’. I’m not bothered if people never wear masks but if you’re coughing and spluttering in the supermarket it’s nice if your spit is kept in the confines of your own face

Teateaandmoretea · 29/12/2022 20:48

if you’re coughing and spluttering in the supermarket

this is the most daft thing about masks. The obsession with wearing them in supermarkets. Most of the time you aren’t even near anyone else.

echt · 29/12/2022 20:53

Teateaandmoretea · 29/12/2022 20:48

if you’re coughing and spluttering in the supermarket

this is the most daft thing about masks. The obsession with wearing them in supermarkets. Most of the time you aren’t even near anyone else.

Then you've obviously not practised social distancing while taking goods from shelves, etc and have someone lean across you, or the egregious gits who crawl up your arse at the check-out.

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